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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Elonka (talk | contribs) at 03:29, 23 July 2006 (Keep (and this may be a bad faith nomination)). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Elonka Dunin

Elonka Dunin is a Wikipedian who has gotten a friend to write an article about her and then edited it extensively. Working as a game developer does not make her notable, being mentioned in a few magazines does not make her notable. Being an amateur cryptographer (or amateur anything for that matter) does not make her notable. Working for a company that won an award for its product does not make her notable. Being thanked in a book does not make her notable. This is simply a case of someone abusing Misplaced Pages to gain publicity for themselves. There is way too much of that going on these days. Also note that a previous VfD was never closed. Danny 01:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Earlier AFD is at: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Elonka Dunin

Comment: The article has a notation on the talk page that the AfD was closed as a keep on 12 December. I'm not sure that's actually correct but I went ahead and marked the first AfD as closed for completeness. ++Lar: t/c 03:28, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - Barely on the edge of WP:NN but 3/4 of the article is, "who cares?" and apparently has tons of WP:AUTO violations. — RevRagnarok 02:04, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
• Not sure why the first AfD wasn't closed... to my eye, it looks like a no consensus close, the arguments advanced are not clearly one way or the other. I looked long and hard at this article. I don't like to see vanity articles here. But I'm not convinced this article isn't about a notable person. The number of different publications cited, the published authorhood, the number of hits, the tie to Kryptos all seem to confer some notability. None is enough in my view all by itself, but together they seem to add up to just barely notable enough. Keep (with regret because I don't like to go against Danny, he's pretty sage). ++Lar: t/c 02:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete dreadful vanity great-great-great-grandmother Polish playwright, voice talent etc. Dlyons493 Talk 03:25, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep (as subject). There seems to be some possibility that this is a bad faith nomination on the part of Danny, because I disagreed with him earlier today in a Deletion review on the Musa Cooper article . As for the accusation that I'm just using my Misplaced Pages article as self-promotion, trust me, my Misplaced Pages article ain't it. ;) When I need to get the word out, I use my elonka.com website. To be honest, as much as I love editing Misplaced Pages (I think I'm at around 6,500 edits at this point ), my own Misplaced Pages bio article is something that I tend to perceive as being drastically out of date, but I try to respect WP:AUTO and keep my fingers out of it except for very simple factual updates. As for "proving" notability, let's see: Elonka Dunin is a published author, notable game developer (some of her work is even cited as references elsewhere on Misplaced Pages), and she's a frequently-cited consultant on the CIA's Kryptos sculpture. Typing "Kryptos" into Google shows that her site has even higher placement than that of the CIA or Wired.. The elonka.com website has over 2 million page views, and the name "Elonka Dunin" is cited often in the news. Just this year alone, it's mostly related to stories about Kryptos, and a Da Vinci Code-related story, (see: Smithy Code). Recent media appearances that aren't mentioned in the Misplaced Pages bio (gee, I must have been falling down on the job in terms of using my Misplaced Pages bio for self-promotion): Washington Post , MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann , NPR's All Things Considered , Wired News (this story was also the #1-ranked headline on AOL). Want more? Check the place I do use for self-promotion, my press page. --Elonka 03:29, 23 July 2006 (UTC)