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Notes SOLELY 2 self: talking to myself

(note: which is allowed by Wiki-rules 401.4-B Section 2 Article 17.3-C 'talking to self is fine; objectively critiquing rich pedantic, technocratic snobulardes is not Kosher' If u can't use the law to make a point, then u gotta use the metaphorical BS of religion Praise Allah! Praise Jesus! & spreading manure only draws flies. )

I spent my Thanksgiving alone w/ my cat, but was up the night b4 'til 3AM jamming w/ some pals & then went back Friday for turkey.


  • 'If the plight of the poor is caused not by the forces of nature, but by our social norms, then grave is our sin.' - Darwin

note: This Doc dude has an anti-evolution 'sticker' on his page...so I wonder the kind of people I'm dealing w/ here. He's either a 'fundie' or a coward (I can't possibly see how it's humor or rhetoric...) I heard editing Star Trek stuff here is worse than comics books ...it figures Thanx Joe H.

The "anti-evolution" box is right above the "evolution" box. "I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir." Doc talk 09:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

++man that's some deeply sagacious sh!t, leave it to the educated to cower & pander to the LCDs (i.e. religion & $$$ & sex) so as to keep their pockets full & exploding - Jesus of Nazareth

I can't blame poor ignorant people, but educated technocrats who manipulate thru their knowledge to oppress others is quite sordid. They enjoy a Central Park front view. Central Park is a sham, a feather in the cap of Vaux & Olmstead & urination upon every non-rich NYer. It should have been a series of smaller parks so as to provide for more park-front perimeter properties/views.

source for Letia Lerner

i don't know how to add footnote citations, but the whole Letia Lerner tale is in the foreward of 'Bizarro Comics #1' TPB

References

http://www.qualityjollity.com/bio.php

"Baker did pre-production character design on Dreamworks' SHREK feature film. "

the youtube vids were listed under REFERENCES:

References 

   * Kyle Baker at the Grand Comics Database
   * Kyle Baker at the Comic Book DB
   * Kyle Baker at the Unofficial Handbook of Marvel Comics Creators
   * George Clinton video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ3en5-HzyE @ ~1:02
   * Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK1Jds0OVuE
   * Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GSGCiUJAV8
   * SHOWTIME Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ySl3InQS1g

who is ur superior? ...cause ur NOT doing a 'line-item' veto, u simply WHITE-washing EVERYTHING I DID which surmounts to laziness & apathy on ur behalf. U r usurping ur power (q.v.)

This is a fact: Shaq O'Neil is financially backing Kyle's film-animation studio and one of the first projects is to create a "Fat Albert & The Cosby Kids" type web-cartoon. ...

Please do me the same courtesy & line-item 'veto' my errors, as my time is just as valuable as urs. Thank you

A request for admin intervention has been placed at Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Kyle Baker. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:21, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

How do I report u for being the world's most tenacious WIKI-comics fan = P

notes to self

a journalist considerably older than 37. User:Tenebrae 13 November 2010

For the record, your comment on the admin noticeboard that "he apparently is taking my edit as some sort of 'blasphemy' to his hobby" is both inaccurate and uncalled-for. I've been civil throughout, but that kind of talk and assumption-making really is inexcusable. --Tenebrae 19:44, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


Kyle DOES have a unique wit...he once threw himself down a flight of stairs @ Hunter CHS ...that kinda puts him in a category w/ Chevy Chase, no ?

He is a motor-mouth too ! I sat next to him last Christmas/Festivus & he wouldn't shut up, in fact I almost choked on a piece of turkey, cuz of his babbling, u may ask his brother Edwin...he noticed the whole thing! LOL ! Kyle's grandfather is 93, a Tuskeegee grad & a direct descendant of Lewis Adams ! I have several pix of us together Peace is contagious]] 21:02, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

...why were the 'Indians' murdered & put onto reservations ? The WIKI- servers are on 'stolen' 'bloody' land, no ? U think u've 'earned' some authority here @ Misplaced Pages ? GREAT good for u, throw urself a party...but MY FACTS are correct & ur just jealous ! U 'started it' by NOT line item correcting my errors...ur stubborn Peace is contagious 21:18, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Everyone has a different 'learning style' some learn by mistakes, some learn thr their rich family...Peace is contagious 21:18, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

One man's 'art' is another's 'annoyance' 'There's no science of being' -Kant Not to be pedantic but: "Whatever u desire is 'good' for you (even if it may be bad for me)." - Hobbes I prefer to be utilitarian & mathematical...if WIKI rules are stale & stodgy, then eventually Misplaced Pages will fail. I don't know why u have such a stiffy for Kyle Baker; Harvard's motto is that "Knowledge is Power" ...no it's veritas, it's Harvard Med School that ascribes to "Knowledge is Power" ...just think of me as Hawkeye Pierce . guy who's too lazy or too busy to line-item edit my work. U know what hte French say, "Il n'y a pas les sots incomodes, mais ce qui ont de l'esprit." Peace is contagious 

23:16, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


Ur missing the point entirely! 'Words' are relatively meaningless, & empty w/o validity. What's valuable is time & effort...u've wasted my time, by not line-item editing my work, but rather deleting it all. To me THAT IS LAZY & APATHETIC. U've tacitly insulted my intelligence from the get go, by action NOT words (i.e. 'white-washing' my work).

more notes

Just out of curiosity: why did you abandon the account for this one? I understand if you didn't want to keep using your real name (if that's what it is) - it happens all the time. Cheers :> Doc talk 01:09, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I did have a corrupt systems file on my hard drive, this Spring & I had to partition it, I think I used to log in w/ my Google Acnt. How do u know about that acnt both have my IP add. ? I didn't even know it was still floating around Peace is contagious (talk) 01:15, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Because both accounts have extensively edited Monkees articles, and wikistalk showed edits to articles like Meister Eckhart, Kyle Baker and Hunter College High School. This edit summary kinda made it "crystal clear". Cool - now how's about ceasing the personal attacks on this editor immediately? I recommend you stop harassing him, because it is disruptive and will lead to a block, I'm sure. Sound good? Good luck :> Doc talk 01:22, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

notes

U've prob'ly never worked in a law office, but sending a letter to anotehr lawyer suggesting that their actions are unethical is an informal way that 2 attorneys communicate an ovbservation (more implying some sort of 'communcation breakdown'. So I believe u misunderstood the nature of: ...well then their actions are 'unethical'.Peace is contagious (talk) 01:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

How to sign name

by typing four tildes ~ ~ ~ ~

Editing Kyle Baker: notes to self:

I think it important to show that Kyle attended Hunter College HS, for the epistemological & developmental psyche value; so as young kids see that higher education is the key to success. It's a very high quality education for FREE, if u pass the 6th grade entrance exam (only aprox 11% do), Cheryl passed it the next year & Ed the year after her; thanx much to Kyle's giving them pointers on the test, which included 9th grade math.
I also think it's important to show that (Redacted)
(Redacted)
What kind of evidence is needed to show that Kyle participated in creating the Shrek Donkey ? he put sketches on his new web-site...
'Truth' should be listed as notable works as Kyle's African-American themed work will (eventually) be seen as part of his 'legacy' (q.v.)
I wasn't trying to be 'fannish' or even 'promote' Kyle, but I do think he's a fascinating Afro-merican individual, in a day when we now have 'blacks' slowly 'movin-on-up' in American society and the 1st 'mulatto' President.
The George Clinton 'Martial Law' video should be mentioned, Comedian Sinbad & RHCP's bassist Flea are in it too.
Part of the reason Kyle received financial backing from Shaq is his Afro-American themed works. @ Xmas last year, Kyle said (Redacted)
24 hrs seems like a fair punishment, I have no qualms. "Love means never having to apologize" - Eric Segal ;0) The worst part of my day is (Redacted) ...damn I wish he did, that'd be worth something !!! Peace is contagious (talk) 19:31, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Let's take your points one by one: "Kyle attended Hunter College HS ... 1/2 Afro-merican." Please provide reliable-source citations. In the case of biographies of living persons, uncited personal material can be removed immediately.
"Shrek Donkey" -- He also calls himself "the greatest cartoonist in the world," taking it seriously enough to put a trademark tag by it. His website shows his Shrek Donkey art. Was it used or discarded in favor of other designs? Did he work on spec for a day or spend months as an animator there? We don't know. We need a disinterested third-party source to verify his claims, especially when Baker himself says in an interview that he lies.
"Truth" being notable: That's solely an opinion, and it is not widely shared. It won no awards, it received generally negative reviews, and perhaps most significantly, Baker did not write it.
"George Clinton 'Martial Law' video" -- Find a citation and add it to filmography


LOL, I would SO LOVE TO MEET U !!! You must really love comics ! Kyle is (Redacted) to which Kyle responded 'I wrote that, anyone can say that', that's the nature of US marketing, just ask Howard Stern AKA "King of All Media"

OK, I thunk Kyle wrote Truth, or as Cheryl & I joke 'Trufe' based on David Allen Grier's 'Crank Yankers' skits. Maybe it didn't receive good reviews, but how can u NOT realize the significance of the premise, as (didactic) historical fiction ! The Tuskegee experiments were a human atrocity! ...akin to more something Adolph Hitler, Idi Amin or Stalin, may be associated with. Kyle recently spoke @ Howard, & then at Univ. of Montreal(?) or Quebec for $2000. He is slowly but surely making a name as a 'black rights' historian/informant/advocate (not sure the correct term there). Let me point out here that Bill Cosby was NEVER EVEN NOMINATED for an Emmy for 'The Cosby Show' !!! yet it was #1 in Nielsen ratings for ~4 yrs. In fact Robert Guilliam is the ONLY black actor to receive a Lead Comedy male Emmy, for Benson in 1985?. So just because no awards were given for Truth...the Monkees film Head was sorta panned, yet today, 30 years later has great artistic significance & merit. Nietzsche was not received well in his day, but has been put on a par w/ Shakespeare & Plato by scholars. Mathematician Godfried Liebnitz 'invented' binary counting 256 before the 1st computer !

Again (Redacted) for the Shrek Donkey. (Redacted). btw who doesn't 'lie all the time' ?? It depends HOW 1 interprets what that means exactly ...& also WHY he lies. (Redacted)

G. Clinton video: Kyle's @ 1:02-1:15 http://thebakersanimationcartoons.blogspot.com/2009/01/george-clinton-martial-law.html Not sure where to find the actual video production 'credits'. I tried imdb.com (Redacted)

I don't think I got a sadistic kick out of 'pranking you'. I thought u had some formal authority here, given the blue 'medal' on ur page & were just refusing to consider any of my ideas...my bad.


It's ironic that u did not footnote the 'behind the scenes tale' of the Letia Lerner story after all ur preaching, but I'm pretty sure the intro/foreward in Bizarro #1 TPB has the tale told well, which I listed in the Ref section, but u deleted yest.

The Elseworlds issue not being distributed in North America IS footnoted, by footnote #8.
Amazon.com is a commercial sales site. We are not allowed to link to any page primarily designed to sell things.

IMDb is allowed as a "further reading" external link, but not as a footnoted reference, since it's essentially a Wiki that anyone can edit.

If you'd like to start a Request for Comment or informal mediation on whether Truth is one of the two or three most significant works of Kyle Baker, then these links will help you do so.

nts: Should I need help

contact: Happy‑melon

Is it inappropriate to mention that Kyle is a mulatto of African American heritage ? Certainly one can see that by any of his youtube videos and web-site. or that both his parents were graphic arts trained ? from an accredited college ? i.e. It's important to know that barry Bonds Dad was a pro in MLB, that's partly why Barry was 1 of the top players ever/HOFer.
Would there be an appropriate way of telling some of Kyle's witty real-life anecdotes ? Maybe via uploading of a Youtube video interview by his sibling ? I can see this is a slippery slope area & I do wish to both add useful info & follow the rules as best as possible. I do know Kyle & his sister are very busy, so I took my time to add some info I knew, sorry for not having 2ndary sources.

What's rather funny is that if I were a lawyer representing Mr. Baker & someone added "I lie all the time" ...on the 6th most visited web-site in the world, I could prob'ly have that removed, rather easily, as an out of context remark. Maybe my studies in (academic) philosophy can be an asset to Misplaced Pages...maybe not. thanx for ur time = ) Sorry for the entropy.

"When two strong horses run side-by-side their hoof beats scare each other & the chariot is pulled faster and faster" - Protagoras ! Peace is contagious (talk) 22:25, 14 November 2010 (UTC)


Thanx for ur help Doc! I came yest. to add a few things & well...voila = P Jeepers (mutter mutter mutter) I wrote someone w/ original pix of Kyle & hopefully they can provide an appropriate picture = ) I do know that there are limits to freedom of speech, esp'cly in the 'private sector'. i.e. If I tell my boss that I love Pres. Smith & he fires me...cause he voted for Pres. Jones; I have no case. That's sorta a red-herring, but I'm a slow learner @ times. = ( Peace is contagious (talk) 23:24, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Censoring a direct quote

I understand you don't like Baker saying of himself, "I lie all the time." However, it is a direct quote, perfectly in context — read the original interview, which is footnoted and linked, and you'll see that this is true. I'm not sure it's appropriate for an acquaintance of the subject, who may not be the most objective person in regards to that subject, to be removing something based on a personal feeling that the subject might not like it. If you feel the quote is not representative of what he says in the interview, ask other editors to comment. Ask an admin to weigh in with an opinion. Deleting something for personal reasons does not help provide a full understanding of the subject. We don't whitewash. And heaven knows, there is a mountain of accomplishments here of which any subject can be proud. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:39, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

...not sure what such a " has to do w/ anything significant, "I eat all the time" would be just as frivolous. Is Baker known as a 'notorious liar' ? Even potentially libelous as taken out of context. I would even say it's 'vandalism'...if there was 'intent' to be libelous.

Ur ad hominem type reasoning of my motives is also superfluous. Peace is contagious (talk) 00:49, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


What's more astonishing is that M. Tenebrae, who has such technical over-sight of procedures, lacks the philosophical insight to see how 'unencyclopedic' if not down-right irresponsible to put 'I lie all the time' " randomly in the article & not in the paragraph about Cowboy Wally (which I've never even read actually) but can figure out from the article where it belongs in a WIKI page, JEEPERS ! At 1st Tenebrae was insulting my intelligence (q.v.) & white-washing all my work, which was darn frustrating ...but then he proves himself somewhat hypocritical (q.v.) Peace is contagious (talk) 17:15, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
So THAT is what y'all think, that I AM Kyle Baker ?!? This IS the TRUE problem w/ vicarious Cyber reality (sigh) (Thanx, I did not know only Kyle could sue) Doc is an attorney ? U people are all kinda 'goofy' and or/histrionic, jumping to conclusions. Are u all comics fans ? I never had this much problem on any other article, save where some anal-retentive Mormon pulled all my article photos. Clearly an administrator should look @ the 'I lie all the time'...obviously T-man thinks Kyle is known for his consummate lying. Peace is contagious (talk) 14:47, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


Since I'm NOT Kyle baker, there is no way I can sue Misplaced Pages or Tenebrae or anyone for libel reguarding this issue, according to editor 'Doc'. Thus, to put it in the vernacular "Case Closed." Aside from that, I believe a reasonable compromise was achieved by putting the "I lie..." quote where it belongs, in Baker's career history in the Cowboy Wally paragraph. Peace is contagious (talk) 15:42, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
How can we know that, since Baker has admitted that he lies all the time? Yworo (talk) 15:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Are u for real, bro ? You would be laughed out of a court-room. The simple fact that I did not have proper credentials for the pic ...forget it.
SHHHHH, Don't tell any1, but I'm really.....DANNANANANA - BRUCE WAYNE !!! =) If ur nice to me, I'll tell u where the Batcave is & invite u to the New Years party; Wonder Wooman will be there & I can put in 'the good for u' ? or do u prefer males ? -Bruce aka Peace is contagious (talk) 16:02, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
I forget if ur an administrator Off2 ? If u are I'll, I'll remove it. I went to the Arb. complaint page & told them that I'm not Kyle, so therefore there is no 'threat of legal action'. - Bruce Peace is contagious (talk) 16:22, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Well, I'm sure u thus realize that there is SOME REASON 'why' u cannot block me. One does not simply become a judge (in reality, I mean here), simply because they have watched many a trial, there is a procedure and much education required; and often enuf we still get 'screw-ball' judges, even on the Supreme Court. Peace is contagious (talk) 16:53, 16 November 2010 (UTC) Ps. u know I'm not really Bruce Wayne? (...but don't tell Ywo, OK SHHHHH ;))
I'm NOT being disruptive, maybe that's ur opinion, on the contrary Mr Tenebrae seems to be a bit slack w/ his Wiki edits, if not even libelous. I suggest u take a few law school classes urself, sir. - Bruce Wayne Peace is contagious (talk) 16:53, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Ps. I'm glad u 2 did not write our Federal Constitution & Bill of Rights.

Sources

We don't allow direct references to the content of media. That called a primary source and doesn't prove that the appearance in the media is notable. We require third-party reliable sources to establish that the media itself and the appearance within the media has been taken note of by some third-party, making it notable. Yworo (talk) 15:36, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Now I see why Misplaced Pages is not allowed as (anything more than) a (cursory) reference in academic papers, this site has a middle of the bell-curve veracity litmus test.

Blocked indefinitely (but not permanently) for legal threats

Please review the Misplaced Pages policy: No Legal Threats

Calling other people's edits libelous and hinting that suits might happen, after already being warned to stop and being asked to retract things, is clearly violating the NLT policy.

An Administrator DID NOT warn me. How should a reasonable person, know which warnings are valid ? Peace is contagious (talk) 17:11, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
You are displaying a serious ignorance about how Misplaced Pages works. I tried to explain but you ignored me. Warnings do not have to be made by an admin, they may be made by any experienced editor. Admins simply enforce the warnings. Yworo (talk) 17:51, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Apparently I do, OBVIOUSLY I do...& u didn't try to explain anythng Doc did, and u may have l'il knowledge of how 'reality' works & what 'coercion' is. OBVIOUSLY vandalism happens, how do I know that u are not some friend of Tenebrae, who puts innacurate (yet 3rd party verifiable) info into articles (i.e. Kyle Baker's Mom was not always a AV cord. I believe that is her retirement job, or 2nd job; what IS important is that she had a BA from Pratt in Graphic Art) ...so despite ur footnotes, ur creating a distorted 'world of facts'. It's almost sad & utterly hysterical how serious u take this and how inaccurate u truly are, especially when u have an 'expert' telling u. enjoy ur pseudo-world of distortions. Peace is contagious (talk) 00:27, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

You are blocked from editing (other than this talk page) under the NLT policy indefinitely, but not permanently.

If you retract all threats and promise not to make further ones, any administrator can unblock your account. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 20:43, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid there is some confusion here, I explained that I am not Kyle Baker & was informed thus I cannot sue, so what's the problem ? Peace is contagious (talk) 17:11, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

what exactly do I have to do to satisfy the over-seer(s)? Please note that the inflammatory statement "I Lie all the time" was put into proper context & left there! So it seems my 'opinion' was mutually agreed upon. Peace is contagious (talk) 17:28, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to point out that someone with legal knowledge (like an attorney or paralegal) should do the 'blocking' in such an instance, as 'blocking' someone for threatening to sue, can be seen as coercion. I do not expect computer programmers to comprehend the technicalities of law. I'd also like to point out that my edits have been 'bullied' by user Tenebrae. He claims that any amount of detail I write is 'promotional' in nature, which is quite frustrating.Peace is contagious (talk) 17:11, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

If I may step in as an uninvolved editor, Peace, you need to understand that until you remove and renounce that legal threat above, no one will be willing to listen to your points. Misplaced Pages takes legal threats very seriously for a variety of reasons, and simply saying you're not the subject so you wouldn't be able to sue isn't sufficient. Just remove the threat and say you understand the policy, and you have no intention of suing or taking legal action, and an admin will unblock you. Then you can try and make your points about the subject. Dayewalker (talk) 18:24, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

thanx u seem level-headed. U do see my point? ...'banning' those who issue legal threats is a form of coercion & a poor policy; yes maybe 90% of legal threats are superfluous, but clearly insisting that 'I lie all the time' be stuck @ the very end of a 'Later Career' section is irresponsible (if not libelous and any sane individual would realize that, however Tenebrae relied on technical knowledge of the 3rr rule) He HAS NOW LEFT if where it belongs (where I last put it). He SHOULD fear being sued, unfortunately I'm not Kyle & I don't think Kyle would even care.
It's not that I wish to make ANY more points about Kyle Baker ...but rather in any future article I don't want to be oppressed (q.v.) by Mies van Der Rhoe 'less is more' type zealots. ...however these 2 zealots Tenebrae & Yworo seemed to 'get off' on throwing around rules that they do not clearly understand themselves. They DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE PHILOSOPHIES UNDERLYING THESE RULES (all rules are guidelines, not etched in stone).

Heck, even lawyers are 'artists' more than technicians, almost any law can be 'swung to the left or right' so as truth & justice may prevail. I think a better solution would have been to block me from the Kyle Baker page, but obviously if these people were 'smarter' they wouldn't be wasting time on Misplaced Pages. C'mon look at the picture of the dude who blocked me... I should be charging for psychotherapy @ this point. I'll remove the comment, simply cuz I want to edit other pages, but I'll put it right back if anyone should choose to be irresponsibly libelous, as it should be...if no one chose to stand up & sacrifice against unjust laws, then we'd be in some sort of corrupt or semi-corrupt society where those in power stayed in power pretty much...oh wait, that's what exists here in the USA. = ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peace is contagious (talk • contribs)

Your new round of threats

That's free advice "zealot" and "if these people were smarter"
I do not wish to discuss US LAW w/ u sir, if u fully understood it, u prob'ly would not write things out of context.
No @ this point I defn'ly don't want to meet u, u seem like a bore. But thanx for twisting my words & insinuating some nefarious motive, that's 'cute' & manipulative of u. HOW DARE U!
Can I block u from my talk-page, cuz I really don't want to hear ur 'opinions'...& we can sit here all-day arguing the details, it's quite unproductive. So I'm asking u kindly to not write on my talk page. Go read ur comic books or chop-up someone else's work, I find u disrespectful to others writing stlye in favor of ur own incomplete, uninformative minimalism. It's usually rich people like u trying to step on the poor, like me...I don't have park front property or an ex-model wife. In fact, my medical insurance is provided by the Gov't. Ywroo's nonsense is even more anal-retentive than urs, & thus I erased it, it's cluttering u my page -less is more' -Mies Van Der Rhoe (ur philosophy,no ?)


Starting over

Please read our policy on not making legal threats.

Misplaced Pages policy is that you may not make them or hint at making them. Don't do it. You've done it a bunch. You have to stop doing that, agree not to do it in the future, and retract the ones you have made.

If you disagree that Misplaced Pages's policy should be that, then that's a viewpoint you can argue. HOWEVER - that is what policy is, and what's going to be enforced.

You will remain blocked until you abide with the policy. If you do not want to abide by it, the discussions here are pointless; your best course is to just stop editing.

If this is not clear, please let me know and ask for clarification on what details need to be clearer.

Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:57, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanx: please clarify this part: 'You should instead contact the person or people involved directly, by email or through any other contact methods the user provides.' Are all user required to put an email on their userpage ? How would I 'contact' them w/o 'writing' directly on their Wiki userpage ?

It seems a compromise was reached over the remark "I lie all the time" on K Baker's page...Peace is contagious (talk) 17:43, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Please, I DO NOT wish to 'get advice' from anyone w/o admin authority @ this point, thank you.Peace is contagious (talk) 19:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
And by the way Elen IS an admin, and you rubbed out her comments also. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 19:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
she should have identified herself as such. Cops wear badges & uniforms for a reason, cyber-reality is confusing enuf.Peace is contagious (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
It's in the history for anyone to see: Everyone forgets to sign from time to time. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 21:29, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Bugs. That cleared up, I'll say it again. A repeat performance of yesterday's posts will mean that you lose access to your talkpage. Incidentally, if you want to email another user, you'll find a link to email the user in the menu on their user and talk page. Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:07, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Please repost what I erased, my bad. Thanx. Peace is contagious (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

"Incidentally, if you want to email another user, you'll find a link to email the user in the menu on their user and talk page." ...NOW that I know this, I have NO REASON TO MAKE ANY LEGAL 'THREATS' ON WIKIpedia pages. I can in good-conscience adhere to that policy. Thank you for ur patience w/ my ignorance. Peace is contagious (talk) 21:38, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Note, you may not send legal threats via Misplaced Pages email either, but it may offer the opportunity to resolve differences privately, which I hope is the case here. Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:45, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
the actual 'issue' was resolved b4 I was even blocked for 'making legal threats' ...by putting the controversial statement 'I lie all the time' into proper context (i.e. in the section about Kyle basing a cartoon char. on himself) Peace is contagious (talk) 22:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)


Well then, if you want to confirm that you now understand that making what appear to be threats to sue, or accusing people of activities that they might be sued for, is not acceptable on Misplaced Pages (and that includes by Misplaced Pages email), and you understand that should you do it again, you will be blocked again, then I will unblock you. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:11, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
I can confirm that: 'I now understand that making what appear to be threats to sue, or accusing people of activities that they might be sued for, is not acceptable on Misplaced Pages (and that includes by Misplaced Pages email), and I understand that should I do it again, I will be blocked again'.
...& TRULY hope this will not happen. I disagree w/ the policy, but I DO understand my 'rights'. In earnest hopes of avoiding any such future statements, how do u recommend I handle a similar situation in the future? I had numerous people giving me advice, w/ no hierarchy of authority to observe & thus no clue of which advice was accurate and which not.
Incidentally, may I also point out that the user Tenebrea I 'threatened w/ legal suit' was banned from editing for 1 year another comic book writers page, "John Buscema" ...does that show at least some reasonable doubt that my being upset & that my 'bannable' behaviour MAY have at least been over a valid point/criticism ? I hope I've worded that correctly. Peace is contagious (talk) 22:49, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Banned from editing the article only not the whole wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive65#Violation_of_Arb_ruling_at_John_Buscema - my spidery senses are wondering how come you knew that? Off2riorob (talk) 23:03, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Since this is the second time Peace is contagious has brought it up: I volunteered to be blocked so long as a fanatic editor who was making changes disapproved by RfC was blocked as well. I say "fanatic" since he'd bee blocked for a year himself previously, and changed his handle. It was a more elegant solution than going through more weeks of mediation and arbitration. It left the article in good shape without the fanatic editor's non-consensus additions. And I'd prefer you not wikistalk me.--Tenebrae (talk) 03:05, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Hold up, Elen: "I'll remove the comment, simply cuz I want to edit other pages, but I'll put it right back if anyone should choose to be irresponsibly libelous, as it should be" still needs to be removed in his above comments, right? That would be a "nice" gesture on his part... Doc talk 22:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

It would confirm he understands he doesn't have the right to do that. Peace is contagious, I'm not imposing new hoops, but it would be good if you struck that comment (put <s> and </s> on either side of it so it is struck). If you have a dispute with another user, there are a number of dispute resolution options. If a user is incivil, you can report them at a rather odd noticeboard called Wikiquette Alerts. If you feel someone is actually libelling you, you can report it at the Administrators noticeboard for incidents.Elen of the Roads (talk) 01:07, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and one other helpful point. Misplaced Pages is not a hierarchy. You will find you get as good advice from non-admins as well as admins. More importantly, any editor can place a warning on your page, and if it is made in good faith, you should take notice of it. Elen of the Roads (talk) 01:10, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

Peace is contagious now understands Misplaced Pages policy relating to legal threats and has agreed to abide by it

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Here's to a fresh start

In the spirit of the holiday season, and in hopes of collaborating and working together, I wanted to wish you, sincerely, a Happy Thanksgiving. I hope you'll accept my genuine good wishes. With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 16:30, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

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Thanx, I was confused as to how long an intro should be...then I saw Tesla's was MUCH longer than the average intro...

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FINE, I was touched by a RC priest, so sleep well, knowing that u r odiously promoting the spurious nonsense of religion

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Please do not add or change content, as you did to David Irving, without verifying it by citing reliable sources. Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. your change of the word to denier to skeptic is both pov and was not in the source. Dougweller (talk) 07:56, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwp7tVZuXKM&feature=youtube_gdata_player — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peace is contagious (talk • contribs)

Ah yes, he spoke at the anti-Semitic holocaust denying organisation the Institute for Historical Review. That's not the source used in the article and is anything but a reliable source for Irving. It does help make clear that he changed his mind about speaking at their conferences so we need to add that to the article, but with a better source. Dougweller (talk) 09:51, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Are u Jewish, Doug ? I'm an atheist.

U seem to discount his own words, in favor of here-say

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Better Call Saul - Plot Summaries

Hi there, a quick note re your recent plot summary edits at Better Call Saul. Though I know you mean well and I applaud your contribution, per WP:TVPLOT the goal length for these summaries is between 150–200 words. Some of your recent edits, for instance your changes to the pilot episode (which I'd previously trimmed from 284 words down to a still-beefy 213 words) has now been increased to 243 words, with unnecessary details about black-and-white vs. color, Jimmy's mustache, Jimmy pouring himself a drink, that he specifically watches *VHS* footage from his halcyon days. I don't think any of this is relevant to our understanding of the plot and will all need to be pared down again. I did, however, think your addition of Chuck's $17 million payout was an important tidbit. The Episode 10 summary is 383 words, which is far too long. Also, there's an open discussion on the talk page about this very thing, which you are invited to participate in. Nothing personal, by the way, we just need to be concise. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:13, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

the b&w choice & lack of dialogue is extremely important, as it sets a mood & tone :) In fact it's the 1st thing critics discussed, about the premier. Seems like the best place to put htis under PLOT Peace is contagious (talk)
The b&w and lack of dialogue has no obvious relevance to the story line, and lacks sufficient context to convey significance to the casual reader. It would be best suited in a unique article that goes into amply sourced detail about the pilot. It does not, however, belong in what is intended to be a 150-200 word plot synopsis. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:46, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

I disagree & got the word-count down...ok, I check the link u gave & it says 200-500 words, so what's the problem ? server space ? Peace is contagious (talk)

It's a plot summary, which is supposed to be just that. Setting the mood and tone is not a part of the summary. Besides, we are not meant to describe every detail as it comes dangerously close to violating copyright laws. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 16:37, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Cyphoidbomb is right. As pointed out, I suggest looking at WP:TVPLOT, which states, "The plot summary is an overview of the episode's main events, so avoid minutiae like dialogue, scene-by-scene breakdowns, individual jokes and technical detail." Which was included in some of the summaries you wrote. The summaries here are not meant to be a replacement of actually watching the episode. Episode articles exist, which allow for more in-depth plot summaries, however should still not contain over-embellishment of the events that happen in the episode. 200 to 500 words is the recommend length for episode articles, but not summaries in an episode list, where up to 300 (for more complex plots) is allowed, and I personally think 300 is perfectly fine. There is no set in stone rule for the length, it should just not be excessive. You need to cut down on the over-embellishment though. This is not appropriate tone for a summary here. "Emphasize Saul Goodman's transformation from loquacious "criminal lawyer" to toiling, fearful, mustached, Nebraskan, mall-Cinnabon manager" is overkill, as is "spartan" being used to describe his apartment. He works at a Cinnabon and watches old tapes of his commercials; keep it simple. We don't try and recreate the "mood" or the exact scene from the episode. Also, "now in color" and "we flashback" is also not an appropriate tone. The summaries are long enough as they are, if anything, we should be trimming them. Drovethrughosts (talk) 16:35, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
U r 26 y/o I'm 42... SAT level words like Spartan & loquacious r perfectly fine Peace is contagious (talk)
Keep talking smack and you'll find yourself banned from editing. Just common sense talking. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 16:43, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Your unsourced analysis of what the color, songs and silence symbolize are original research and still don't pertain to the story. They pertain to mood, they pertain to tension, but they do not pertain to the story. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:52, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) You're obviously welcome to disagree, but you've presented no explanation for how the black and white, Jimmy's mustache, VHS, etc., advance the storyline or relate in any way to the plot—the actual story—so I'm not sure what weight your disagreement holds. Jimmy's mustache doesn't save the day. The black and white film and VHS cassette don't team up to kidnap Chuck. 200-500 words is the plot limit for an article devoted to the episode. I made a mistake, the range for tabular episode summaries is 100-200 words, not 150-200.

...there are a couple of ways to present plot information: ... a tabular format that sections off each individual episode with its own brief plot section (approximately 100–200 words for each, with upwards of 350 words for complex storylines.)

There's nothing complex about this storyline, it's the excessive detail that's the problem. The issue isn't server space, the issue is conciseness, emphasis on the plot, professional tone, avoiding cruft, and an established consensus. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:47, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
google the NPR reviewPeace is contagious (talk)
Not sure what this is in regard to, but the issue is about excessive detail in a plot summary that should be 100-200 words. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:54, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

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