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Your Userpage

That's an easy question. You appeared to be writing an article entitled "RayvnEQ", rather than a userpage for "User:RayvnEQ". As an article on a notable subject, the article made no sense at all - which is why I deleted it. Since it was a userpage, it should go at User:RayvnEQ, not RayvnEQ. I can move the deleted content to your userspace if you like, or provide a copy. No problem at all. UltraExactZZ ~ Evidence 00:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

 Done. There might be some formatting issues you'll want to look at, but the entire contents have been posted to your userpage. Please let me know I can be of further assistance. Best, UltraExactZZ ~ Evidence 15:34, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Christian views on magic

Hello RayvnEQ, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Christian views on magic - a page you tagged - because: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. Coffee // have a cup // ark // 09:05, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving me a message. Although I did not find a corresponding specific template for a tag used for that reason (the reason being, basically, that such a thing does not really belong in an encyclopedia), it was listed on a page about what is and is not okay to create pages about, as a thing that is not okay. Since the non-encyclopedic pages of Misplaced Pages are so hard to find and navigate, I cannot tell you what the exact page is called, but, at the time I read it, I do remember seeing such a thing, that any random topic one can think of should not be put on Misplaced Pages, as well as any random celebrity/movie/book/etc., even a popular one, should not be put on Misplaced Pages even if it was immensely popular. Of course the latter is pretty much done anyway because the readers expect to find articles on any popular movie, book, or celebrity (i.e. Twilight), but the former is not something anyone would expect to look for if it is not a one-word or one-phrase topic. I am not arguing your decision, if it seems that way, but, I am a bit confused; If a human is not supposed to create pages of a certain type, but pages so-created are not supposed to be deleted, then how does that work out?                     ~Rayvn 11:05, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Adding references

Hi, I saw that you were having trouble adding references at Ozzy Osbourne. You might want to check out Misplaced Pages:RefToolbar. Follow the instructions on that page and you will have a "button" that will make adding references much easier. Let me know if you have any questions. Happy editing J04n(talk page) 21:04, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

It should be all the way on the right with {{cite}} on three lines: '{{' on top, 'cite' in the middle and '}}' on the bottom. If you look at my user page, the last userbox in the left column has a picture of it. J04n(talk page) 11:42, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Country of Lavey

You've just moved Lavey to Country of Lavey. Lavey's not a country, it's a parish. If you check Special:WhatLinksHere/Lavey, you'll see that there are a lot of articles linking to the parish of Lavey. The term doesn't need a disambiguation page, if there are only two uses to be disambiguated: see Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation. Please get consensus on an article's talk page before making a big change like this. The correct way to disambiguate would be to instead post a hatnote at the top of Lavey (the article about the parish) directing readers to "see also LaVey". Thanks, Empty Buffer (talk) 10:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Update - I've found enough other articles that justify a disambiguation page, and I've moved the parish page to its correct name and updated the template from where most of the articles were transcluding, so no further work is needed on disambiguation. Thanks, Empty Buffer (talk) 13:07, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Since LaVey is a last name, and not uncommon, I knew there were plenty of other pages that users might be searching for with LaVey, but do not know any off the top of my head. I knew other users would add the extra links later. Thank you for searching for them (I do not know how to use some advanced features in Misplaced Pages, and mostly only do editing). For the page I redirected, I must have read the word "county" and thought it said "country,"; I am certian I saw the actual word "country" (Or county) on the page. If not I made a mistake. Thank you for finding some more links. If Lavey is a parish then Anton LaVey is likely the more common term being searched for by 'lavey'. I believe there should be an optional script or method, after changing a page name, for "change all current links to link to the new article title," for times like this when linking those old articles to a disambiguation page would not be the best way to do it.                     ~Rayvn  16:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Non-descriptive titles by complaining people who enjoy falsification

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Black people, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Personal blogs are not reliable sources NeilN 00:07, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Please do not delete correct information, as you did at Black people, without citing adequate reasons why the article is too lengthy (which is the only valid reason to delete correct information that I can think of currently). Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue and take this oppurtunity to become aware of basic and obvious logic that you cannot usually prove (nor "cite") the fact that people do NOT do something, which does not change the fact that to incorrectly assert that they do is wrong. As the majority of Misplaced Pages editors live either in America or in Europe, and no such editor (nor any other human being or perhaps one exception, ever, which would become a viral news item if it were made known) has ever checked off the "Caucasian" item on a census while being black, unless it was before 1960 and done for the purpose of pretense/fraud/escaping mistreatment and known by the one doing it to be a lie.                     ~Rayvn  00:21, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Signature

Hello, I'm C.Fred. I wanted to let you know that your signature ("sig") might cause problems for some readers. This is because it includes a link outside your user-space; or no link at all. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines and policy on customising signatures. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 01:53, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Please make sure your headline titles are within the guidelines of "basic human decency" rather then containing police-style, instigating, assaultive words such as "compliance".                     ~Rayvn  02:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Please try to take a less combative approach to other editors, especially over something as simple as a signature Asking you to make your signature work properly so people can work with you is not an assault on basic human decency. How about just trying the default for a while?  Acroterion (talk) 02:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

However, using the word "compliance" IS a lack of basic human decency, as mentioned in my comment, while the idea that "asking a user to put a link in their signature if Misplaced Pages expects it but also noting the problem with the programmer that caused this to happen when he removed the Misplaced Pages coding that linked the signatures as expected" is a lack of human decency was not mentioned. I am not "combative" but rather am defending from and for 1) the integrity of apparently two articles now and 2) when people are attacking and harassing me. The assaultive word "compliance" was in this user's section title until I fixed it as I will not tolerate such words being displayed on my page.                     ~Rayvn  03:26, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Help Desk

Please note your inquiry at the help desk has been answered. Thank you and have a nice day. --‖ Ebyabe - Border Town ‖ 02:28, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your notification, but actually it was not answered. Instead, it was closed with no one attempting to help or answer at all, with the only semi-relevant replies being to argue with me instead of answering, and with several of my posts removed before it was closed, as well as an entirely separate question of mine which was removed. It seems like the help desk needs some severe oversight.                     ~Rayvn  03:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Ebyabe falsifies information on Ebyabe's repeated bad edit

Hello, I'm Ebyabe. An edit that you recently made to Malus seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want more practice editing, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, please contact the help desk. Thanks! ‖ Ebyabe - Welfare State ‖ 02:52, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

A word of advice. Removing relevant sourced content from one article, while simultaneously arguing that it is appropriate to add unsourced content to another despite objections from multiple contributors really isn't doing yourself any favours. If you wish to contribute to Misplaced Pages, you will have to accept that you don't have the final say on content, and that when contributors with more experience than you give you advice, you should take heed of it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:20, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

They have not given advice but instead simply reverted edits repeatedly without asking any Americans for the poll when it is necessary if they really wish to inappropriately insist that Americans don't know how people classify races in America, and then the other for the purpose of ensuring that an article is grammatically unreadable and really cannot even be deduced what the meaning is intended to be. As well as blatantly falsifying the reason for the non-clarification and inclusion of irrelevant sentences on this talk page. Whether one is "more experienced" is irrelevant when the person is purposely causing problems by stating that Americans don't know how someone determines their race in America etc. Also, as has been noted, I didn't remove any relevant sentences from this article. Finally, I also, as mentioned SEVERAL times, have not "added unsourced content" to any article which you are mentioning, although doing so is perfectly appropriate as long as the information is true - most articles seem actually to be created with no citations, so obviously.                     ~Rayvn  03:39, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages bases article content on published reliable sources. We do not conduct 'polls' to determine content. As for the material removed from the Malus article, it was clearly relevant - the previous sentence described its usage in alternative medicine, and it would be grossly improper not to inform readers that there was no credible scientific evidence for its efficacy. I see that the material regarding the use of Malus is such a context has now been removed entirely, which may be the most appropriate course of action. If you wish to discuss this issue further, I suggest that you do so on the article talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:52, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

"Misplaced Pages" does not do anything. "We" do/does not do anything. Misplaced Pages is meant for input by EVERYONE, including those who actually you know have knowledge about the subject at hand. In fact Misplaced Pages DOES have polls, and it is true that polls are not actually needed since merely asking literally any American who lives in America and has commonly interacted with multiple races will get the answer of what is truthful. However, since a couple of people are incorrectly insisting on publishing the article using extremely incorrect information, one of the polls that Misplaced Pages does do would be a way to vitally inform those people that yes, in fact, living in America DOES tell you what people use words for in America! There was no "material" removed from any article since that would be physically impossible since this is both the Internet, which has no physical manifestation, as well as an article which is written using words, and therefore also has no physical items or textiles involved. In an article about a plant which has a section describing the plants usuage, it would of course be grossly improper to then instigate a debate about whether or not that usuage is scientific by writing a sentence which states whether or not such usuage is considered to "work" by one person or society or research paper or another. The appropriate and valid scope of such an article would be things regarding the plant, including how people may use the plant, which means that that scope would not include any research or debate on methods of alternative medicine and whether or not they work.                     ~Rayvn  04:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Also, Ebyabe could take offense at being called a woman, but chooses not to do so. Ebyabe is also curious as to what was being falsified? Thanks and have a pleasant evening. --‖ Ebyabe - General Health ‖ 03:24, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

I suppose that technically you could, but not legitimately, as no reasonable person (or human) would do this. Your false claim is that you "think my edit was a test". First of all, if someone is doing a test, and the test fails, then they would of course fix it or change it back or add a hidden comment for someone to fix it or something. But, secondly, this was the second time you have changed the clarification of the sentence back to be grammatically incorrect and extremely confusing, so you could not possibly "think it was a test", and what you wrote in the edits also says that you didn't think that.                     ~Rayvn  03:39, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Signature

Hi RayvnEQ, I noticed your signature might cause problems for some users. Signatures should usually include a link to the user's talk or user page and should look a certain way. In addition to the lack of a link, specific aspects of your signature that might cause issue are its size, font and the many spaces before it. To prevent users, especially new ones, from having issues related to your signature, such as having trouble getting to your talk page, I recommend you either use the default signature or simplify yours. Thanks, PHANTOMTECH (talk) 04:01, 13 May 2015 (UTC)