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Mattress performance

Your recent editing history at Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Please discuss before you revert or change. Seems to me like vandalism.--Cyve (talk) 02:31, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Look in the mirror, dude. Also, you've only edited this article, so your edits reek of POV. Are you Paul?--A21sauce (talk) 02:33, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

No. And no artist like you. And not from NYC.--Cyve (talk) 02:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Clearly, because you treat someone suing someone else as the co-creator of the art piece! lol. And you must be German. I sense some nationalism.--A21sauce (talk) 02:41, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

No nationalism. Sorry to disappoint you. Lil bit of sarcasm maybe (recipe/cook/meal).--Cyve (talk) 02:56, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

But I got the German right. You've also got an irrational need to defend a guy who despite his intellectual talent and drive has 4 people accusing him of assault. Men just need inordinate amounts of freedom, yes?--A21sauce (talk) 20:22, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Given your clearly expressed hostility to one of the article subjects and your stated assumption that he must be guilty, you probably shouldn't be editing that article at all. I request that you stop. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_blah_blah_blah) (talk) (contribs) 01:03, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

It seems A21 has a POV, but from my observation, they are not the only one who seems to be editing that article from a specific POV. A21 doesn't seem particularly disruptive at the article and has been discussing concerns on talk page, so it seems not reasonable to ask them to stay away from the article entirely at this point. I also think it's ironic that this edit warring warning to A21sauce was placed by an editor who clearly violated 3RR the day in question, and was warned about it by multiple users.--BoboMeowCat (talk) 15:31, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm not aware of anybody else on that article that is lashing out at supposed political opponents and generally attacking other editors because they made an edit or argument he didn't like. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_blah_blah_blah) (talk) (contribs) 00:03, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Right because no one else has bothered to call these other people out. And look in the mirror if you want to talk about editors lashing out at people whose opinions they don't like.--A21sauce (talk) 19:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

for that claim. Also I see above you have opined, "Men just need inordinate amounts of freedom, yes?". Likewise, I suppose women need 6-12 months after they've had a sex act before they can decide whether it was consensual or not? Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_blah_blah_blah) (talk) (contribs) 16:10, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

A rape accusation presented as an artwork is still a rape accusation

since you made reference to an internal mental struggle you were having trying to comprehend this, perhaps the above will clear things up for you a teensy bit. Cheers! Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_blah_blah_blah) (talk) (contribs) 23:45, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

What are you yammering on about? See, this is where it gets tricky, an editor who thinks they can read someone else's mind. And you clearly haven't done enough reading on the case it's all fresh news to you apparently anyway.--A21sauce (talk) 19:10, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Learn to read plz kthxbye Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_blah_blah_blah) (talk) (contribs) 16:11, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

June 10: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting

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Bravura

Re: this, if you're referring to two brief off-topic comments about beer, following many serious and constructive comments on topic by the same two users, I think most would say your comment is overblown and does more harm than good. But I'll let it stand. Have a great day. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:35, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

No, it went a little further prior to that, as you well know, but hopefully you'll be more careful now;)--A21sauce (talk) 19:43, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

We are people, not robots, and we will stray from time to time. It's a matter of degree, and I really don't think the goal of that thread was hindered much. So no, I don't plan to change my behavior in talk threads, especially since you're the first to object to it in close to two years of editing. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:54, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Okay, then expect more comments from non-male people. Because you know Misplaced Pages is not unproblematic with women editors.--A21sauce (talk) 19:58, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

I did not know you were non-male. If you thought I did, it likely altered how you perceived my response, and not in a good way. Genderless identity has its downside. I now have your complaint in the correct context, and I'm interested to know, besides the two beer comments, what annoying male behavior in that thread "went a little further prior to that". ―Mandruss ☎ 22:29, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Are you saying you would've acted "more gentlemanly" had you known I wasn't a guy? Are you saying you need to know that there's a woman around to monitor you like a mom or a librarian to act properly? Please do some work, and on this: Go over again to the last 11 entries in the thread we're talking about. Read them aloud to a female friend. Your comments get much more exposure than you would ever would have doing your own blog, in return, I think we can ask that high school behavior be kept to a minimum on something serious. If this were a talk page on some toy plane there'd be different expectations. Thanks --A21sauce (talk) 17:42, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

(inserted out of turn) Wow, way to respond to a plain, direct question with childish & offensive bluster. Great Job, A21. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 14:37, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Policy violations aside, no one on this site has the right to try to impose their ideas of "proper" behavior on the group as a whole. If I have to conform my speech according to your desires, is the reverse true? If so, I respectfully ask you to refrain from showing open hostility toward your fellow editors in public spaces, because I (genuinely) find that offensive. If you feel you have a right to your demands, but I don't, don't you think that's patently hypocritical? I do. ―Mandruss ☎ 20:32, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Upon reflection, I think I can predict that your reply, if any is given, will be along the lines of, "If men will behave like gentlemen, I promise not to be hostile in response." That is probably what I'd say in your place, and it will be hard to fault such an argument, so I'll withdraw that. But I don't think it's realistic to expect that anyone will be shamed or scolded into changing their behavior here. I've been around awhile and I've never known that to work anywhere in life. All it does is create resentment and pushback, that's just human nature. Ask a psychologist, and I think they'll support me on that. So your approach would seem to be self-defeating. ―Mandruss ☎ 00:01, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Okay, Mandruss, point taken. But remember that the right of free speech assumes a level playing field, and I just want you to think about how it really is not that, a level playing field, Misplaced Pages, as reflected in US media, US society. That's all. You're more sensitive than most and I appreciate that. Thanks for your thoughtfulness on the matter.--A21sauce (talk) 04:52, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Linda Nishio

Hello A21sauce,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Linda Nishio for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Arcticgriffin (talk) 22:40, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Be careful

... with edit summaries like this. Do not accuse of someone being on someone's payroll. Learn to edit with civility. Else I'm sure administrators would find your attitude extremely heartening. —Indian:BIO 04:52, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

You have been reverted more than three times by two different editors about the Christopher Ciccone quote in Madonna. Raise a discussion in talk page per wP:BRD and gain consensus, and do not WP:EW. —Indian:BIO 05:14, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

I didn't revert it twice, idiot. The first was a response to SNUGGUMS claim that it was in the wrong section. Funnily, he came up with another excuse when I put it in an appropriate section.--A21sauce (talk) 05:19, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Again, maintain civility, this is my last warning to you. —Indian:BIO 05:53, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Warn away.--A21sauce (talk) 21:20, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Civility

Just because the article is about an alleged rape doesn't mean you're given extra license to make pointlessly misanthropic comments in response to acceptable talk page chatter. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 14:34, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

When you start to spend your time dealing with actual problems in the world, I'll talk to you.--A21sauce (talk) 20:39, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Fabulous, in the meantime do watch your mouth, Ms. Insults-a-lot. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 23:31, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

When you watch yours, Mr. Love-to-Control-Women-Online.--A21sauce (talk) 23:56, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Holy livid buckets of crap, you've got an attitude problem towards men. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 00:07, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Nope, just you, sir. Find something else to do, seriously, or I'll lodge a complaint.--A21sauce (talk) 00:09, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

(posted this before I saw your template) A21, you must admit that you have repeatedly complained about men for nothing more than being male, just in that one article. You lashed out at Bus stop and someone else for 2 comments about having a beer, which was weird because women drink beer. And not for nothing but Bus stop has been a vigorous proponent for favorable treatment of Sulkowicz's side so I think he is entitled to both your courtesy and thanks for developing the article in a way that I think you favor. Anyway you can't seriously expect to exclude men and it's not really civil to keep complaining about males or maleness or WP demographics.. and accusing me of "loving to control women online", that's just rude. Anyway surely you can engage at that article without trying to institute OWS-style rules? Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 00:25, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Nishio

Hi A21, I made a start on a Linda Nishio article here, in case it helps to save it. Feel free to copy that to your user space if you want to. It's probably not enough as it is, but if you update it it might be notable enough. If you do decide to develop it, you could check with Keegan whether it's okay to restore it. Best, Sarah (SV) 01:44, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Slim!! I'm done with Keegan, so I'll ask someone else to restore it. --A21sauce (talk) 20:41, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Mattress affair

I'm notifying you of sanctions related to Mattress Performance and Emma Sulkowicz. I do not believe you are responsible for any misconduct, but your differences in opinion with other editors have made progress difficult. I recognize we simply have a fundamental disagreement about the interpretation of policy and I do not mean to imply any tendentiousness on your part.

Please carefully read this information:

The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

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Please carefully read this information:

The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding all edits about, and all pages related to, (a) GamerGate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

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--Sammy1339 (talk) 17:34, 14 June 2015 (UTC)