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Completing nomintion on another editor's behalf, i have no opnion on the merits DES 03:09, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
I nominated. Not notable. Winning a preliminary event at the WSOP does not meet the requirement for notability per WP:BLP1E. He has done nothing else notable, the rest of the article is fluff. There are what seem like three RS's but each simply says he won a tournament and then quotes his opinion on random stuff. We already knew he won the tournament and we know one event doesn't make you notable -- even if 3 RS's confirm you won it. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 03:28, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
*Weak Keep*Delete He fits under Wikiproject:Poker essay for notability and while that's just an essay, he did win a very significant event and is a bracelet winner. There are just enough references in which he's sought out for poker expertise by reliable sources that I'm barely on this side of the line. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 04:28, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- FYI that essay is out of date. There is unanimous agreement on the project talk page for no longer automatically considering bracelet winners notable. Who exactly to consider notable we haven't agreed on yet. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 05:40, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America 04:53, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. North America 04:53, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! If there's no longer consensus on that issue, then I'm over on delete.
- Speedy keep. Nominator is virtually certain to be nine-time banned User:DegenFarang. Article was previously snow keep here when this banned user previously nominated it. The article has two references from the New York Times, one from the San Francisco Chronicle, one from the largest poker site in the world, and others from reliable poker sources like Cardplayer magazine. 2005 (talk) 03:19, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Your baseless accusations and personal attacks have no place here. Focus on content, not people. A player being quoted in the NYT doesn't mean anything. None of those sources do anything to establish notability. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 08:21, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Keep - Well sourced, and won a significant event. May not be the most accomplished person, but notable per policy.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 09:00, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Which policy are you referring to? Because WP:GNG says "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources..."Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail" and that doesn't apply to any of the sources in the article. They give a brief sentence on his background and then quote him. Per policy, he is not notable, at least not based on these sources. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 09:32, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Keep - Looks like plenty of sources to indicate notability to me. Rray (talk) 12:57, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- Are you familiar with WP:GNG? If so, show which sources address Badger directly and in detail? Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:07, 4 July 2015 (UTC)