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I edited "he controls much of the apparatus of repression in Cuba" to: "He contorls much of the military forces in cuba" searching for a more NPOV because the phrase "apparatus of repression" indicated a supposed "repression" in Cuban Goverment and that indicated a certain POV which it was not very "neutral". ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Well then I guess we should never call the terrorits that blew up the World Trade Center "terrorsits." After all, that would not be "neutral." What are you talking about? You don't believe there is an "apparatus of repression" in Cuba? Why else would people risk their lives by climbing into intertubes and braving the ocean to come to the United States? Why am I not allowed to visit my family in Cuba, or why are not they aallowed to vist me? Does the Cuban government OWN them like slaves? The jails in Cuba re full of people who just spoke their minds. These are facts. Grow up.

Well, there IS repression in Cuba, by any standard. There is no freedom of assembly, press, or speech, no political parties other than the Communist party, and no freedom to leave the country. Neutral doesn't have to mean blind.(Edited to add proper signature after logging in)--RicardoC 15:32, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Deleted the "supposed to be homosexual" part", its completely irrelevant, this page needs a clean up.

I don't think his sexuality is irrelevant, it's an important part of the man. Much less relevant is the (very predictable) view of American officials on Raul's succession to Fidel Castro. This is an article about Cuba, not the US (I wonder if we should include the Chinese, Russian, French, British, Japanese or German view as well? Or maybe Tuvalu or Kiribati's point of view on the matter?) Deleted.

All I know that we rebel soldiers were very scared of him, almost as much as we were scared of the Che. But then you will have to read my memoirs xe xe El Jigüe 12/7/06

As to the relevance of the putative succession, it is of interest to many in the US, including the large Cuban-American community, as well as other neighboring peri-Caribbean countries. For example Mexican Cuban relations are now at an all time low, and Raul has always been less adriot and, in appearance at least more hard-line, than Fidel. El Jigüe 12/7/06

Comandante reverts

Comandante, could we discuss these edits as opposed to just making broad scale reverts? I don't understand the basis for your recent reverts. BruceHallman 15:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

There is little reason to expect Comandante to discuss anything; he simply edits ignoring consensus and requests to talk. In the past, there has been an RFC on him for precisely this behavior. --Bletch 23:13, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Comandante, perhaps if you were to break your edits down into smaller pieces, versus broad scale reverts, we could work better together? Thanks in advance. BruceHallman 21:37, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Why dont you add your predicment who will be President if bush dies in office

Why dont you do that.Its very dumb and ignorant to do this,especealy saying that "Since Raulis old,his term would be short".

This is why no one loves Amerika,they think they know it allDzoni 03:30, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Since no one said anything,that means I was apsolutly rightDzoni 17:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Because it can be revelent in politic. Bah.

Reliable sources please

To those users who continue to insert the sentence "It has also long been rumored that Raul castro is bisexual" citing this source - which states "and Fidel himself has claimed he does not discriminate against gays; and the rumors are that his brother Raul Castro is at least bisexual" - the source does not meet Misplaced Pages:Verifiability or Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources policies and guidelines. Therefore the sentence and citation will not be accepted on this page. --Zleitzen 16:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

The articles cited indeed makes mention that Rail Castro is bisexual. The fact that Fidel even denys it means that there are rumors which he felt he has to deny. I am not saying that Raul Castro is bisexual, I am simply stating that there are rumprs that he is.

Rumors, rumors... Don't you see that we could include this very statement in almost all biography in Misplaced Pages? José San Martin 16:09, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but when the romors are such that the Dictator himself has to deny them bout his brother, that is newsworthy.

Rules is rules, I'm afraid. You need to find a source that meets Misplaced Pages:Verifiability and Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources policies and guidelines. Your source is a non-notable internet opinion piece - thus clearly not acceptable. --Zleitzen 23:11, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

You are wrong, I'm afraid. This is an on-line magazine with a well written article. Try again.

Erm. No. Again - it clearly doesn't meet any of the Reliable sources guidelines I'm afraid - theres nothing more to be said on the matter. Please read this carefully Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources. Also, see guidelines concerning the Misplaced Pages:Three-revert rule which you have broken. If you continue to edit in this fashion it may lead to you being blocked from wikipedia. --Zleitzen 01:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

No wonder you are love with Cuba. How dare I speak of Castro's brother being gy! How dare I say he executed people in his youth! These are not truths, becuase you say they are not? These are being cited from literature found on the Internet, not from Blogs. How dare you!

Furthermore, you are the one who keeps vandalizing my entries. You are the one who keeps deleting them. How much are you getting paid by the Cuban Government? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.3.167.159 (talk • contribs)

No one is getting paid by any government. Please refrain from adding nonsense to both talk pages and articles. --Jay(Reply) 02:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Zleitzen, saying "theres nothing more to be said on the matter" really seems to violate Misplaced Pages's policies of open, and on-going, discussion as a way to build consensus. There's a debate about the notability of rumors, and that's fair. I think what is unfair is for any of the sides in this debate to declare "discussion is over!" Invoking the three-revert rule, on the other hand, is fair: this is designed to stop endless revert wars. But saying that nothing more can (should? may?) be said on the matter is something quite different.Interlingua 04:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

What more can be said? There was clearly no valid source as explained by numerous editors numerous times - also, please check the history of this page to find the now deleted responses from the user (utilising different IP addresses) containing various personal attacks. There is a limit to how much "open discussion" can be had. By the way, the same user has posted repeatedly on the Fidel Castro page, calling other users "Bitches" etc. There is no more to be said, this is a Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons.--Zleitzen 04:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Reiterate

To all users, Raul hasn't become temporary "President of Cuba". He is "assuming the duties" of head of the council of state as per Cuban constitution. Fidel is still President of Cuba.--Zleitzen 15:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree raul isnt actually President without a ceremony but as castro has renounced all his positions can he be considered President himself. The situation is confusing and I think we should reflect that confusion, SqueakBox 16:02, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

See Cuba talk page for discussion. The position is outlined by the constitution, quite clear and is typical of other nations. Comparable to when Reagan was shot etc.--Zleitzen 16:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Racist Vandalism

Someone has recently been editing this page to change the word "cuban" into racial epithets. I have marked the page as sprotected. --Falcomadol 17:06, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Contradiction

Is Raúl a more agressive Communist dictator than his brother, or is he more pragmatic and open to economic reform? --204.244.150.7 17:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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