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To-do list for Hinduism: edit · history · watch · refresh · Updated 2021-06-06

Ongoing: Get better references and citations in all sections where they are lacking.
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Minor Edit - In the 'Pilgrimage' section, subsection 'Kumbh Mela' there needs to be a change of the misspelling 'afetr' to 'after'. -Thanks SlingPro.
Idol worship is prohibited per Vedas which should be mentioned. (Yajurveda 32:3; Yajurveda 40:8; Yajurveda 40:9)
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Also explainig, Hindu idea of spiritual plularism, generally a hindu temple in north India has images statues of several deities that shiva, shakti and vishnu in the same temple in addition to local gods. See

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Hello! I have a suggested addition for 'Further Reading: Scholarly'

Flueckiger, Joyce Burkhalter (2015), Everyday Hinduism, Wiley-Blackwell, ISBN 978-1-4051-6021-6

Alaani (talk) 18:11, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Islam and sects of Hinduism (c. 1200-1700 CE)

This section does not look neutral - it does not even mention the revival of Hinduism in India under two powerful states - Vijayanagar and Maratha I am editing this section with absolute credible references

Amit20081980 (talk) 18:55, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

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Good addition, I think. Interestingly, it seems that it was also the Vijayanagar Empire where Shankara was elevated to the status he still has today. This contrasts with the statement in the article "Followers of the Bhakti movement moved away from the abstract concept of Brahman, which Adi Shankara consolidated a few centuries before." Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the first paragraph seems to have come from some Hindutva pamphlet. What "sects of Hinduism"? I don't see any. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 22:29, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: Bhakti sects of Hinduism, makes more sense in the title. Bhakti movement gathered steam after 12th century, peaked between 15th-18th centuries in east/west/central/north regions of the subcontinent. See Karen Pechelis and Schomer & McLeod sources in the article. Also see: Christian Lee Novetzke (2013), Religion and Public Memory, Columbia University Press, ISBN 978-0231512565, pages 138-140. It includes a discussion of Islamic rule period and Bhakti movement in their Deccan region, on those pages. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 04:26, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sarah, I know. But I was pointing out that there is no mention of any of it in the section. In fact, the section is leaving religion behind and going off into politics. I am not sure how this happened. On the matter of "sects", as opposed to "movements", I expect there would be diversity in the scholarly sources. Calling them "sects" as if it were a fact seems to constitute POV. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 08:04, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Totally agree with Amit20081980. This section is written in an utter rubbish way.Ghatus (talk) 13:41, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: Indeed. Bhakti movement needs to be mentioned in this article. Religion-related historical violence and its impact on the religion, its followers is relevant and due, for balance and completeness. Similar discussions are in Christianity and Islam articles. Let us focus on reliable sources, instead of puzzling perspectives of their anti-Hindu, pro-Hindu, anti-Islam, pro-Islam organizations. The section looks well sourced. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 14:10, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Ghatus: I reverted you because your edits have issues and they weakened the article. You, for example, generalized Richard Eaton's book on Islam-Hindu interaction in Bengal region of India (The Rise of Islam and the Bengal Frontier) to all of India, and your summary wasn't accurate either (FWIW, Maratha/Vijayanagara should be trimmed; this overview article is too big). Lets discuss per BRD, and reach consensus. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 14:46, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Islam and Hinduism-1200-1750

1)Which renowned Historian wrote that Hindus became Muslim by just dent of Sword? It's a total rubbish statement. Even a person having some knowledge of mediaval History knows that there were several reasons for conversions. Read books of B. Chandra, Thapar, RS sharma, Eaton, D. Jha. Some of the reasons are:

Initially by violence, threat or other pressure against the person.
As a socio-cultural process of diffusion and integration over an extended period of time into the sphere of the dominant Muslim civilization and global polity at large.
That conversions occurred for non-religious reasons of pragmatism and patronage such as social mobility among the Muslim ruling elite.
Some of Muslims are descendants of migrants from the Iranians or Arabs.
Conversion was a result of the actions of Sufi saints and involved a genuine change of heart.

2)Islam was dominant in North India, but not in the South.

3)Bhakti started in the the South actually, but flourished in the north.

4)Vijaynagar and Maratha power show the revival of Hinduism.

These are historical facts. Theologians should keep a distance from History. Ghatus (talk) 15:36, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: & @Joshua Jonathan: Do look into the matter. Ms Sarah Welch is unfit for history writing. I do not have enough time at hand now, but this myth of "Hindu trauma at the hand of Muslim tyranny" was first spread by the British and it later became a main driving point of Hindu Nationalist movement.Ghatus (talk) 16:06, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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