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Former good article nomineeAli was a Philosophy and religion good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Why Rafida hijacked page?

This about great caliph of Muslimeen and you know islam make up mostly people of Haq from the ahlul sunnah. Why have Rafida hijack page. I tell to you to make fair the page and not propaganda. Shukran. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.114.138.76 (talk) 23:13, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

This comment describes Shia Muslims with a pejorative term, Rafida. The comment does not represent the consensus among Sunni Muslims or any people of good will. I am sorry it was posted. — ob C. alias ALAROB 20:08, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

I am Sunni, a Maliki, and let's be truthful. Both Sunnis and Shia engage in propaganda. Each side says their side is "Haq" and they are the "people of Haq" - the Shia could just as easily say "Why have Nasibis hijack page" because to them, we Sunnis are "Nawasib". Just as to some Sunnis they are "Rawafid" - so while each of you two bicker and blindly follow your Shuyukh or Marjas or whatever, what happens is that for integrity since we Muslims are too stupid to have any intellectual honesty over our history, other people who are more responsible end up having to lock and edit sensitive Misplaced Pages pages. The irony is that many of the contentious things the rank and file Sunnis call lies, are things some of our own Ahl ul-Sunnah Ulama have authenticated. The few rank and file Sunnis savvy or erudite enough to actually know our own histories, as opposed to the khurafat some khateeb or Molvi tells us, then find contorted explanations to make them fit into our received version of history. The Shia are just as bad, actually. But that's the thing: just as bad, not worse. The only half sane ones are the Zaydis, and it's probably the same with the Sunnis, a few half sane (or half honest) ones. All lies will be exposed with time, let's hope our own hearts are not too complicit in them when that time comes.. 208.65.192.1 (talk) 14:35, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Totally confusing, please ammend

Hi, guys! I was reading the article, and as a person not very knowledgeable in Islamic history, I can say that the part on the First Fitna is totally confusing. It first says that "They wanted Ali to arrest Uthman ibn Affan's killer and not to fight Muawiyah I", and four lines below it says that "the rebels maintained that Uthman had been justly killed, for not governing according to Quran and Sunnah, hence no vengeance was to be invoked". Could you please clarify? Thanks. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 22:18, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Ghadir Khumm

Shia believe Ghadire Khumm is an important and accurate document about caliphate of Ali. In the lead of the article, just describe about Sunni view in this subject. It is better that maintain both Shia and Sunni's view about caliphate of Ali.Saff V. (talk) 08:41, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

@Saff V.: Thank you; Please write your prosal here to discuss about it?--Seyyed(t-c) 06:33, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes please. Nannadeem (talk) 08:27, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

@Sa.vakilian: The Verse of Wilayah is a new article about the giving of alms (zakat) to the poor by Ali while he was bowing (in rukūʿ) during prayer (salat). The article had DYK on 13 October in the main page. For this reason, I added the hook of DYK in the lead of Ali article.Saff V. (talk) 09:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Ali in the Quran

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A user keeps insisting we should have a long section of quotes about Ali. The entire section looks very much WP:UNDUE. What criteria were used to pick these quotes in particular? Are these individuals experts on Ali? Unfortunately, the impression is that apart from one single token critical view, the entire section is just cherrypicked to find positive quotes about Ali. As such, it seems to violate WP:UNDUE, WP:WEIGHT and WP:POV. As the user insists on reverting, I'm tagging the article until this issue is settled. Jeppiz (talk) 18:39, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Another website was specifically created for this sort of thing. It doesn't belong on wikipedia. Brustopher (talk) 18:44, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I agree fully, especially as the user's only reason seems to be WP:ILIKEIT. Jeppiz (talk) 18:46, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
You need to stop lying Jeppiz, enough with your lies and false accusation, that is all you got. I never said I like it, various articles have views section at the bottom, doesn't mean you remove them. Why don't you man up and get some negative views if you are that willing to destroy the article? Alexis Ivanov (talk) 19:58, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Again a comment that is 100% an WP:NPA violation, 0% related to the issue. This might need to go to WP:ANI. Jeppiz (talk) 20:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Again another lie, I'm sick of your lies and the way you snake around the issues, how is saying bring forth a negative quote a 0% related to the issue, how many times are you going to lie ??Alexis Ivanov (talk) 23:53, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
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