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Gona Barracks and the six-inch gun reportedly from the HMAS Sydney
I have checked with the Qld Maritime Museum, who know nothing about this gun. They say the only six-inch gun they had came from the Cowan battery. So I have removed the reference to the QMM having the gun. But as they nothing of the gun in question, they could not help re the claim about coming from the HMAS Sydney. Not being a military history person, I don't really know where to go next to resolve this. Do you know where we might go? Kerry (talk) 04:17, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- The only Sydney I guns I know of are the ones mentioned at HMAS_Sydney_(1912)#Decommissioning_and_fate: 2 at Rottnest Island, one at Thursday Island. The sources I have do not mention any other used main guns from Sydney 1, and no artifacts of any size except a liferaft from Sydney 2. Seeing as the Queensland Heritage Register is the source cited to this questionable claim (and you've already disproven the claim that "its at the QMM" is the incorrect), asking the relevant authority (the Queensland Heritage Council?) for the origin of the statement is the best way forward. Either they can provide the origin of the claim (which could be used to strengthen the Gona Barracks and other articles), or they can't (and they remove the incorrect information from their database, improving what they provide to the community). Failing that, the Royal Australian Navy's Naval Heritage Centre may be able to help. -- saberwyn 11:32, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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HMAS Anzac (G90)?
This discussion may be of intrest to you as you moved Anzac to its current location.Nigel Ish (talk) 19:05, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Australian light destroyer project/Östergötland-class destroyer 'See also' sections (deleted).
Hi Saberwyn. I was planning to add more light destroyer types to the above sections, including those closer in time period to the respective programs. I am curious however, as to why you believe the DDLs and the Östergötlands have no connection what so ever. Not only were they both light destroyer types, but their original operational concepts were similar; in the case of the Östergötland class to help counter infiltration by Soviet underwater units including combat swimmers as well as to supplement existing destroyer classes such as the Halland and Öland. A major difference was that the DDL was intended to be the eventual basis for a family of naval vessels, while the goal of the Swedish Navy with the Östergötland class was for a cheap General Purpose combatant that could be built in large numbers. Both aims were to be ultimately frustrated; the DDL program by a combination of mission creep and political maneuvering while hopes for further Östergötlands were dashed by the, ah, interesting procurement politics in Sweden during the late 1950s and in particular the 1960s. This was despite the fact that the Östergötland class were arguably too austere.
On reflection, perhaps I should have called the section/s 'Ships of comparable era and/or role'. Ceannlann gorm (talk) 12:40, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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I'd say there is enough material out there to write an article with. Ping me if you need assistance with The Times as a source. Mjroots (talk) 21:07, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Mjroots: Tried accessing the Times archive, but it told me I needed a subscription. -- saberwyn 02:09, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- No problem - I get free access via my library card. Mjroots (talk) 03:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- I've expanded the article a bit. Mjroots (talk) 04:40, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks very much! -- saberwyn 13:04, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- I've expanded the article a bit. Mjroots (talk) 04:40, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- No problem - I get free access via my library card. Mjroots (talk) 03:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Hello saberwyn, thanks for the response. Regarding newspapers.com access, since you can't read the link I provided, I will add the links to my clippings page, where you should be able to see them (and link from them). It might take me a day or two to get around to it though. Gatoclass (talk) 08:11, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I clipped some stories, they are at this link. Be sure to sort them in chronological order. If you can't view them there, let me know and I'll try to figure something else out. Gatoclass (talk) 09:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Still no joy, Gatoclass. Still wants me to subscribe, and based on the url (specifically the "/mine" part), not entirely sure how readily it could be shared. -- saberwyn 13:04, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Try this. BTW, all 19 clippings are related to Portmar - you should be able to sort them chronologically. If you can't sort them chronologically, they should appear in reverse chronological order so you can follow the ship's history (what I found of it) from the bottom of the page up. Gatoclass (talk) 14:44, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Success! That's worked. I haven't used them all, but have extracted some very useful tidbits from them. Thanks for the help and the perseverence. -- saberwyn 03:47, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- No problem :) Gatoclass (talk) 05:53, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Success! That's worked. I haven't used them all, but have extracted some very useful tidbits from them. Thanks for the help and the perseverence. -- saberwyn 03:47, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Try this. BTW, all 19 clippings are related to Portmar - you should be able to sort them chronologically. If you can't sort them chronologically, they should appear in reverse chronological order so you can follow the ship's history (what I found of it) from the bottom of the page up. Gatoclass (talk) 14:44, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
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I could scan and email you this photo if you wish
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Re the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ships. Does Bastock really claim that Sobraon's maiden voyage started from Plymouth two months before she was launched in Aberdeen? See your edit here, citing Bastock for both. Davidships (talk) 01:10, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thats a source I do not have on hand. It will take me a week or two to verify. 20:34, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- No hurry - I'm just puzzled as to how writer and publisher could have something to obviously nonsensical. Ah, the frailties of RS. The real launch date was 17 April 1866 as per reputable newspapers. Davidships (talk) 23:57, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Davidships:. Bastock states "She was launched in 1866 and named Sobraon..." in relation to the launch (and never specifies a more specific date), and "Her maiden voyage, under Captain Kyle, began on 9 September 1866, and she arrived in Australia on 4 February 1867." regarding her first voyage (both p. 63). The "November" from the launch comes from the Aberdeen Built Ships website. I have no explanation for why the wrong month was given for the maiden voyage. My apologies for never catching the disconnect. -- saberwyn 21:37, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Saberwyn. If you think any cites to Bastock that I removed should be restored, please do. What does he say about the return voyage? Davidships (talk) 01:01, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- That will have to be another trip for another day. -- saberwyn 08:16, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Saberwyn. If you think any cites to Bastock that I removed should be restored, please do. What does he say about the return voyage? Davidships (talk) 01:01, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Davidships:. Bastock states "She was launched in 1866 and named Sobraon..." in relation to the launch (and never specifies a more specific date), and "Her maiden voyage, under Captain Kyle, began on 9 September 1866, and she arrived in Australia on 4 February 1867." regarding her first voyage (both p. 63). The "November" from the launch comes from the Aberdeen Built Ships website. I have no explanation for why the wrong month was given for the maiden voyage. My apologies for never catching the disconnect. -- saberwyn 21:37, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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Ocean Shield
Border Force's website now lists her among its ships: https://www.border.gov.au/australian-border-force-abf/protecting/maritime/cutter-abfc-ocean-shield and she seems to have vanished from the list on the RAN website. I can't find any news stories about it though... Nick-D (talk) 09:25, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
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Which ref? I never added, mentioned or even read a ref there you deleted/corrected or whatever. I only changed the infobox because I tried to make it better, ok my english is not good and now I see that it really was not useful to cut one word here, and I removed the SEMT-Pielstick because it is not used at least in German speaking area, not even officially or so, there is not even the word "Pielstick" in the German Misplaced Pages is not to find if you read it quite fast, I was only at "MAN Diesel SE" of which "SEMT-Pielstick" is part, and not the whole MAN AG Page, I know other Wikipedias... but MAN is an very old German engine producer and if there is nothing in German Misplaced Pages it tells me something... you thought I got the 14,700 kW from this old 2013 dead link, I never even tried to click it and If I wrote that I use it (I dont think so) I really must have took again too much benzodiazepine medication or so...I took the Data from official MAN Diesel Site (German) and German Misplaced Pages combined if I remember right. The word "driving" I removed it, because I mean a ship is not flying of course with its engines, English Misplaced Pages I was on many pages for the very popular US models (Ford F-150 Series for example) on english Wiki, but usual is for me German, and I never read for example by an car, engine: 88 kW (100 PS or whatever) "moving" the car or so, its just clear its already in the word propulsion or engine which makes clear this is only for moving the boat, "driving", swimming I do not know what you can say, but wayne, now it is driving again ;)
But do not worry, this is I think Edit Nr. 4 in 2 months or so which is not ok, so I will continue to use both Wikis to win information but I will not make another "wrong" edit in English Misplaced Pages, in German everything is cool, I use almost only English refs there (for oil its just more actual, detailed, and I'm very interested in information about any fossil fuels, especially oil and natural gas, and I just checked Q-Max-Site, its just better in English, English often is better for details about navy propulsion for example and empty weight, MTOW, fuel capacity in kg and such things for military aircrafts, there is no discussion about this. I just wanted to tell you, that I never used this old odd ref^^ Greetings and nice weekend already from Berlin, Germany Kilon22 (talk) 01:27, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Sorry for again disturbing, but I now see and remember why I did not add an ref (I have one, even actual right now in English Wiki). Since I added a ref for the propulsion for the whole Durance-class repelenish oilers (old oilers...) and in the articlle you changed there is written in the infobox and I think in the first sentences that it is an Durance-Class oiler, so I thought the ref there is okay. It is french anyway and almost nobody in the US understands it and I thought it is okay in the Durance-class article, but if you like you can change it, and add "my" french ref and the propulsion is again in kW which is very accurate... only the few Saudi Arabian oilers got a higher displacement fully loaded since they had some changes which increased the it by a bit over 1,000 metric tons I think, for example the 2 Saudi oilers have 2 and not just one helicopter pad, I think cargo fuel was a bit increased too and also the fuel for the ship itself to increase range at higher speeds, maybe even they took stronger engines since if the displacement is over 19,000 metric tons and even with the old displacement the max speed was just 19 knots and the range given @ 15kn I guess the cruise speed is around 15 knots, these engines are good ones but maybe they installed stronger ones or so... 6 Ships and 4 different Navys using them, but ok only US Navy got an navy and air refueling system which is extreme good and everytime available when needed... thats why US debt is rising faster than some people can count :D Kilon22 (talk) 01:49, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
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