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January 17

Twinkle

Every time I edit a page with Twinkle, is added to my watchlist. How I can disable it? Laberinto16 (talk) 00:01, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

@Laberinto16: Preferences -> Gadgets -> Preferences panel (at the end of the Twinkle gadget line) -> And then it depends. There are a lot of different watchlist options but I am assuming you mean when you revert people. Those are under the Revert and rollback section. Look for "Add pages to watchlist for these types of reversions:" --Majora (talk) 00:07, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

I'm trying to link this web site to this article but can't seem to get it right. http://stanforddailyarchive.com/cgi-bin/stanford?a=d&d=stanford19611002-01.2.3#} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruinguy (talk • contribs) 00:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

The error message says: "Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).", and the words "help page" are in blue to indicate that they are a wikilink, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:20, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

Hello, my father, Beat artist William J Bowman, who had his first art exhibition at Madam Gechtoff's Art Gallery during the 1950's claims she was referred to as "Madam Gechtoff." Sonia Gechtoff and her husband also had a small daughter at the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linnea Bowman Hart (talk • contribs) 02:16, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

The error messages each say "Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).", with the words "help page" being in blue to indicate that they are a wikilink, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:25, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Moving page on sustainable consumption teaching from userspace to Misplaced Pages

Dear all,

I would like to receive some help and advice regarding a recent overview table that I had been preparing on sustainable consumption teaching activities.

This is the article which is currently in my personal userspace:

User:Orschiro/SCORAI/Sustainable Consumption Teaching

I think the table would best fit in reference to the page Sustainable consumption.

What is your advice on moving my table to the Misplaced Pages?

Thankfully,

~Robert — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orschiro (talk • contribs) 06:46, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Robert, as a first step, you may wish to start a discussion at Talk:Sustainable consumption, the specific talk page for the article. That is more likely to reach the attention of people who have an interest in that article (and would be the most likely people to raise any objections or issues with your content). The immediate issue that I see, is that your table does not cite any reliable sources. It is also quite large. I suggest starting with the article's talk page, possibly posting a link to your discussion at the related Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Environment/Sustainability task force, and see what response you get there. Hopefully that will help you find interested editors to produce a useful collaborative effort. --Murph9000 (talk) 07:53, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your assistance, Murph!

The next steps to proceed are clear to me now.

Orschiro (talk) 08:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

I would like to write on Misplaced Pages about a person I know

Laurence Sacco 1959 to present.

Laurence was born in Windsor,Berkshire, United Kingdom in September 1959 to an Italian father and a British army captain and Lilian Sacco an English mother. He had two brothers and one sister. His mother was a very ill lady from tne age of 18 years and this was to have a huge impact on the families life. His motnef died when Laurence was only 9 years of age leaving tne family devastated. Due to immense pressures with his fathers work and having to bring up a family of tbe youngest age of 5 years his father decided to split the family up to give them a chance in life. Laurences' two younger brothers remained witn the father whilst his sister went to live with an aunt whilst Laurence was cared for by his grandparents in Oxford. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.33.10 (talk) 07:26, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Please read WP:BIO for a full explanation of what it takes for a person to qualify as having notability, one the prerequisites for an article to exist on Misplaced Pages. The notability must be able to be properly supported via reliable sources. You might want to consider the WP:AFC process, for a collaborative and reviewed mechanism for creating articles. --Murph9000 (talk) 07:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is particularly strict about biographies of living persons, and Google doesn't find any reliable sources for any Laurence Sacco, so, unfortunately, unless he has been written about elsewhere, I don't think you will be able to create an article about him. Sorry to disappoint you. Dbfirs 08:40, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

As mentioned above, to have an entry in Misplaced Pages, an individual needs to be notable. I can see no evidence that Laurence is notable - in the information you provided above, there is no indication of what he has done/does which makes him notable. Being born isn't enough, I'm afraid! PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:17, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Help with footnote 17 on Gilles (stock character) page.

I am requesting that the "error" tag in footnote 17 of the Gilles (stock character) page be removed. The content of the note applies to each of the three citations. In the first citation, the note explains that the "anonymity" of the Théâtre des boulevards collection is qualified by the fact that Fagan published one of its plays as one of his own, thus revealing the play's authorship. In the second citation, the note identifies the play in question (Fagan's Isabelle), allowing the reader to find and read it. In the third citation, the note gives evidence of the fact that Fagan (author of Isabelle) was drawn to the parade genre.

I am also puzzled by the note in red inserted into the "Duchartre" entry in the "References" section of the page. What needs fixing? and how to fix? Beebuk 07:51, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

@Beebuk: The error tag is due to the fact that the ref tags have the same name="r&r" which indicates that all three footnotes should have the same text. But the third tag has different footnote text from the other two; so the wiki software is warning you that it doesn’t understand which text it should put in the footnote. If you really want it to have different footnote text for the third, you should remove the name parameter. (Ideally only one ref would have text and the others would have only <ref name="r&r" />.)

The Duchartre error is due to the paramter “year=1929; Dover reprint 1966” It is telling you that “1929; Dover reprint 1966” is not a valid year. —teb728 t c 09:10, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

@Beebuk:Perhaps a way to achieve the intent of the Duchartre reference would be to code year=1929|orig-year=Dover reprint 1966 (though that thwarts the intent of the template designer).

My userpage

I have designed my user page after other editors Bearian, Scientzille, MelbourneStar. Below my user page, there is a large white box. I tried to shrink it like the date template above. Can anybody shrink the box? --Marvel Hero (talk) 08:33, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

@Marvel Hero:The empty space was due to about 50 blank lines. I removed all but one of them. Is that what you wanted? —teb728 t c 08:47, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, you have done fine. Can you shrink it more, to make it look like the green and the blue template? And is it possible to keep some space between the blue template which states "User page for Marvel Hero" and the white template?--Marvel Hero (talk) 08:51, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

You've got two <br> tags embedded inside the bottom decoration. If you remove them, it will remove the blank space. If you want space between the two templates, you could put a blank line there. Or, I suppose, a <br> tag. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:02, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Nigel Poett

Is ref number 33 OK - it is NOT an original document. I am concerned - Please help. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 12:41, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

It's the same as Ref 1, unfortunately there's no original publication detail. You could try contacting the website to ask them to add the source details to the page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:55, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

can i download w.p.

Can I download a version ofwikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.157.0.61 (talk) 13:57, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi person editing from 197.157.0.61 Yes, you can. See Misplaced Pages:Database download.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:59, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

But please note that as the total file is over 60Gb you will need a fast, reliable, internet connection, and be prepared to wait a considerable time - Arjayay (talk) 16:42, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Just in case you meant "can I download wiki software" rather than the contents of the encyclopedia itself (which, as mentioned above, is a significant size!), then yes you can.. go to MediaWiki and read about how to do it there. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:14, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages means to me

Misplaced Pages is everything you need to know about anything at all. It is an infinite source of knowledge that will continue to educate us until we are satisfied for our hunger for knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.77.174.247 (talk) 15:52, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. --ColinFine (talk) 19:56, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

New article - Michal Cander: polish artist -> better version_better_version-January_17-2016-01-17T16:54:00.000Z">

Dear Wiki Friends, I have added new article about polish artist Michał Cander. I asked 13.01 about your help. One of us (Maproom) has suggested that my article has not enough references. I worked on it. I have found a lot of references about artist. I would like to ask about more advices, what could I do more to make my draft to be an article. I am also afraid about English gramma. It would be great if somebody could help and check my article. I spent a lot of time to filled in informations about Mr. Cander. Thank you in advance for your help. P.S I am sorry that I create one more topic in helpdesk, but I am not sure that my answer from 13.01 is correct. Link to draft: Draft:Michał Cander — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zbik89 (talk • contribs) 16:54, 17 January 2016 (UTC)_better_version"> _better_version">

Morrissey

On the Discography page for the musician Morrissey, the album -Bona Drag released 1990 is missing, how to add this to the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.229.166.249 (talk) 16:54, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

The article in question is Morrissey. Do you have a reliable source identifying the album? If so, you can either request the edit at Talk:Morrissey or can edit the page itself. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:04, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Note that Bona Drag is described as compilation album, re-releasing previous singles and old tracks. It seems like this kind of albums is not added in the main article's listing. It is only included in Morrissey discography in an additional section for compilations. You'd have to ask a topic expert, probably from WP:WikiProject Discographies, if you are interested in the reason for this handling. GermanJoe (talk) 17:15, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Oakland Plantation

You have some misinformation on Oakland Plantation according to your State sign 43 34 historical plantations. What you say in this write up is not true. The original owner was William Sanders V, not Saunders.

Do your home work on Oakland Plantation and re-write it as the truth. I can help.

Edward J. Sanders — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.64.40.218 (talk) 19:01, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

If you have information to improve a Misplaced Pages article, (preferably with a published reference to support the information) you are welcome to edit the article; alternatively, every article has an associated "Talk" page, on which you can make suggestions for improving that article. By the way, you have just instructed hundreds or thousands of individual volunteers, most of whom have never heard of Oakland Plantation, to "do their home work". --ColinFine (talk) 20:03, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

You haven't even told us what article needs to be fixed. There are multiple places named Oakland Plantation. Since this was your only edit, we can't tell from your contribution history which article you want fixed. Go to the specific article talk page and make the edit request. Also, read the civility policy. We are all volunteers here, and being hostile doesn't increase the likelihood of getting anything corrected.

Given the IP's edits to Category talk:Plantations in South Carolina, and the area code 864 phone number that he provides, I assume that this is either Oakland Plantation House (Mount Pleasant, South Carolina), Oakland Plantation (Beech Island, South Carolina), or Oakland Plantation (Fort Motte, South Carolina) — but which one? All have been unedited for a good while (the only 2015 edits were technical fixes, and the last edit to the text of any of them was on 21 June 2014), and none contain the string nders (except in a template at the bottom, which includes the word "Anderson"), so none appear to be problematic. Nyttend (talk) 18:38, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Change of our companies description on Misplaced Pages

Dear Misplaced Pages,

The information about our company, Royal Denship, is no longer right, so we wish to make a complete change of the information mentioned.

It says that Royal Denship "was a company" and it is under administration. This information is not right any more, as we bought the company right after the "administration" in 2003 and have owned the company since, without using it.

We have recently re-launched our company with a completely new structure, building yachts in Holland (and not in the mentioned yards in Denmark), so it is essential for us to have this information that we should be under administration removed or the text changed.

For the right tekst, we suggest to add the correct information added, as it is written on http://royaldenship.com/?page_id=3606

I hope you can help, as this wrong information written on wiki, is a problem for us.

Thanks in advance and kind regards

Kasper Fritz Bandholm, COO Royal Denship — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasper Fritz Bandholm (talk • contribs) 19:07, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

User accounts are for individuals only who are "we" ? Mlpearc (open channel) 19:12, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

On the one hand, he is probably an individual, but is speaking on behalf of his company, in which case he is a good-faith editor who has a conflict of interest. On the other hand, I will also advise him to read the dispute resolution policy and discuss on the article talk page. There has been no discussion at Talk:Royal Denship. Text that is on your web site cannot be added without rewriting it due to copyright. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:14, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Kasper, if you can provide any links to articles in reputable newspapers and the like (i.e. good reliable sources) about the change of ownership and that the company is now in a good financial state, that may help considerably in getting an independent Misplaced Pages editor to address your concerns. While you can't just make or provide the changes yourself, if you can help people find the suitable independent sources, you may well help to expedite the process. The article's talk page is the best place to provide such pointers to the necessary information. Please take a moment properly examine the reliable sources guidelines, to avoid any disappointment or false expectations. --Murph9000 (talk) 20:36, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Kasper Fritz Bandholm. Like many people, you have a misunderstanding of how Misplaced Pages works. Please understand that you do not own or control the article Royal Denship in any way. We do wish our articles to be accurate, according to the best published information; so if the article is out of date we want it to be updated. But it should be updated to a neutral summary of what independent reliable published sources say about the company: what you or or colleagues have said about it, or want to say about it, is of almost no interest to Misplaced Pages. Please read WP:PSCOI: you are welcome to suggest on the article's talk page how it should be updated, preferably with reference to independent published sources, so that uninovled editors can look at your suggestions and update the article as appropriate. --ColinFine (talk) 20:28, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Recently Uploaded Content Repeatedly Deleted

I have been trying to add information to the page for the film 'Barbarian Queen', which is listed as being in need of citations and sections on "Production" and "Reception." I have documented all of my information with appropriate, linked citations, and my content is objective and factual in nature. Someone is going behind me and deleting all of the changes I make within an hour of being uploaded. Why??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.33.192 (talk) 20:00, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Read the dispute resolution policy. It will tell you to discuss on the talk page, Talk: Barbarian Queen. There has been no discussion on the talk page. Your edits are being reverted as unsourced. I would also advise you to register an account, because the article is likely to be semi-protected if the edits and reverting continue. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:08, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

See also the article's history (click "View history" on the article page), which contains information about all article changes and their reasons as brief edit summary. GermanJoe (talk) 20:19, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Maybe I can help. I'll leave a message on the article's talk page. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:34, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

January 18

External links and infoboxes

On many articles, the website, company, organisation, or educational institution has an infobox, and in that infobox there is a place for the official website of the entity. So, for a page with an infobox that includes the official website of the entity:

1. Should there be an "External links" section of the page if the only link in it is to the same address as the address in the infobox? To me it seems redundant, especially if it's the only link in the section.
2. If it is not the only external link in that section, should the official website be one of the links?

I'm sure this is addressed somewhere; I just haven't been able to find it. Thank you. Faceless Enemy (talk) 01:08, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

An infobox summarises content in the main body of article so I don't think there is a problem with an external link to an official website being in the infobox and the EL section.--ukexpat (talk) 02:57, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Faceless Enemy. In addition to the above, the best explanation I found in the guidelines is in Misplaced Pages:External_links#Official_links: "Official websites may be included in some infoboxes, and by convention are listed first in the External links section." Also, there is an interesting note in Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#Purpose of an infobox: "using an infobox also makes the data within it available to third party re-users such as DBpedia in a granular, machine readable format, often using microformats."--Gronk Oz (talk) 04:22, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Indeed, all the content of an inforbox is supposed to be "redundant". Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:51, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Nigel Poett

Ref. number 11 is from a book and should have a number in the ref. Please help as I do not know how to do this type of "book" edit. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 06:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello — I'm not entirely clear on what you're asking. The majority of the references in that article seem to be referring to different pages of the same book — Poett's autobiography. I can't see how the eleventh one is different in any way. It would be customary to fully declare details of the book being referred to, and I have just done so, the first time it is used, in this edit. This leaves us with some options as to how best to refer back to this same reference with different page numbers: please take a look at WP:REFPAGE for some options. I've given the autobiography reference a name, so one option now is to refer to different pages like this: <ref name="autobiography"/>{{rp|3}} (where 3 is the page number in that example). Is that what you were after? If not feel free to post back on this page. _└/_talk 07:23, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Damian Aspinall

I will be clearer. Wrong page - I meant Damian Aspinall page. SORRY Please help me make ref. number 11 on the above page correct - it is from a BOOK and I am aware that there should be a long number added when you have a book as a ref. Here is an example as to what many book refs have: ISBN 0-85052-391-5.

Thanks so much 101.182.146.167 (talk) 07:29, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

 Done in this edit. For future reference, check the template {{cite book}}. The "isbn" property is the one you want to set. In this case the web page you were already linking to about the book included the ISBN so you could grab it from there. In other cases Google Books can be useful to find this. Hope this helps. _└/_talk 07:40, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I've found some really quite obscure books listed on Amazon also. Eagleash (talk) 08:01, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

How do I find all the articles that I started?

I am sure that there was a ToolServer Tool, but ToolServer is moved, and I can't find it on the new Tools Lab!

I would be interested in a list of the articles that I created on this Misplaced Pages (also, as an Admin, I can see deleted ones, so if I can get a list of the deleted articles that I created, that would be great too!). I do not need redirects that I created, but if they are in the list, I can check and remove those!

Thanks PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:10, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Special:Contributions has an option for new pages created. It is the tick box labelled "Only show edits that are page creations". Here is yours:

New pages by Phantomsteve

--Murph9000 (talk) 09:19, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) At the foot of your Contributions page there is a link to your "Articles created". --David Biddulph (talk) 09:21, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you both :) PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:30, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

References

1. Clare Short correction

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.248.11 (talk) 13:50, 18 January 2016‎ (UTC)

I have reverted your unexplained edits, because as well as being malformatted they removed sourced information and did not provide new sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:58, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Speakers needed

I am looking at two requests (in OTRS) for speakers. I know we have many volunteers who are willing to be speakers, and assume there is a page somewhere with more information, but have not located it.

FYI, one of the requests relates to scholarly research, another is looking for someone in the San Francisco area.

Is there a resource page? --S Philbrick(Talk) 18:12, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

What do you mean by "speakers"? Assuming that you mean either people to give public talks on a subject, or Misplaced Pages:Spoken articles, but I'm not sure which, and perhaps you mean something entirely different. Nyttend (talk) 18:32, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, people to give public talks on a subject.--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Possible copyright issue on Sakha wiki.

Hi, I know this probably isn't the place to ask this, but I managed to come across the sah:Буустаах page on Sakha/Yakut language Misplaced Pages (English wiki article: Lake Bustakh) and I saw an image of a Google Earth map, (uploaded locally, not on commons) here. There's no copyright/licencing template (they may not have those on Sakha wiki though) on the image page and the problem is that I'm not sure a Google Earth screenshot is allowed on any wiki. Can someone please point me in the right direction to find help about this. I would ask at the Sakha wiki, but I don't know the language. Sorry again for asking this here, thanks.  Seagull123  Φ  21:21, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Seagull123. Google Earth images are copyrighted and that is a copyright violation. Although fair use provides an exception to the exclusive use rights copyright provides, it would not be applicable here. That particular language Misplaced Pages is quite small. It has just two admins you might contact to take action. The second admin listed there, Kyraha, has a template on their talk page indicating a decent level of English understanding. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:21, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

@Fuhghettboutit: Thanks! I know this is an unusual question at the English Misplaced Pages help desk, but thanks anyway! I'll send Kyraha a message now.  Seagull123  Φ  18:29, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

January 19

Joel Barnes WeatherNation page deleted, Alex Wilson Weather channel page still up?

Why was Joel Barnes WeatherNation page deleted, Alex Wilson Weather channel page still up? The two people seem to be quite similar besides working for different national TV weather channels? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB90:128:B6C1:0:3:EBF8:B901 (talk) 02:37, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Joel Barnes was properly deleted because nobody at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Joel Barnes could find significant coverage of him in independent reliable sources. Judging by the references at her article, I can’t explain why Alexandra Wilson (meteorologist) has not been deleted too; maybe just that nobody has got around to it yet. —teb728 t c 03:30, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

They have now.--ukexpat (talk) 03:53, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Note that this editor has been WP:FORUMSHOPPING on this subject trying to get an answer he likes. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:45, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

That's too bad: Now I can't thank them for pointing out the needed deletion. —teb728 t c 10:23, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Please assist with some more answers.

Help desk volunteers. Thank you. With your continuous help and guidance, I have written around 25 articles, got three DYKs and one Good Article. May I request help in a few more queries?

1. Can a WP:List be nominated for WP:Good Article? I know a list can be nominated as a featured list. But I don't know about whether it can be nominated as a good article or as a good list.
2. What is Sinebot and other bots? I replied to a message left on my talk page by SInebot and am now feeling that I did something amusing. I want to be doubly careful. Is it right to reply to the messages bots leave on my talk page?
3. There is always a place left for Edit Summary. Most of my edits are simple edits. I leave edit summaries when I am doing something like reversing some other editor's edit. But is writing edit summary important for each and every edit I do?

Thank you Help Desk editors for guiding me always. Xender Lourdes (talk) 02:44, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Xender Lourdes

• You cannot have a good list
• Usually pointless talking to bots, they are software scripts performing simple tasks automatically
• Not compulsory, but helps those checking the history

Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:09, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

@Xender Lourdes: It's pointless talking to a bot on your talk page, but if the bot is making a mistake, it would be good to leave a message for the bot's human operator on the 'bot's talk page. —teb728 t c 09:26, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

If someone pings a bot is it possible to redirect the ping to it's operator? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:01, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

a gif image

Hi ! I often seen an image which tells old wikipedians, "Please don't eat new editor" or some thing. Like this in that image pacman eating something text. Can someone tell me name of that image ? NehalDaveND (talk) 09:14, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

It is File:Pacman-cutscene.png —teb728 t c 09:20, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Not this. "Please don't eat new editor" this text is in that image. The image instructs old wikipedians. NehalDaveND (talk) 09:23, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

I think the guideline you're talking about is Misplaced Pages:Please do not bite the newcomers, but I don't know the image.--Gronk Oz (talk) 10:14, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

If you are saying it had a non-free Pacman together with that text, it sounds like something that would be deleted as copyvio. It might have been File:SuarezBite.jpg which was on Misplaced Pages:Please do not bite the newcomers in October/November 2014 before being deleted as a copyvio. —teb728 t c 10:18, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

NehalDaveND, it doesn't have pacman, but there is File:Pdnbtn.png. Or there are several userboxes at Misplaced Pages:Userboxes/Wikipedia/Views#New_editors (again no Pacman, but some do feature smiley faces).--Gronk Oz (talk) 10:31, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

It is okay. Thank you. NehalDaveND (talk) 10:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Knights Hospitaller

The article mentions "mimic orders". is the Soveriegn Order of St John of Jerusalem, Nights Hospitaller, website sosjinternational.org a mimic order? And what is the significance of the designation "mimic order"? Does it mean the order is not valid in some way (i.e. there is no ligitimate way to confer knight or dame status to members). Please advise. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanyamarietta (talk • contribs) 10:51, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Here's a section link to mimic orders, to help everyone. This page (the Misplaced Pages Help Desk) isn't really the correct place for general questions about what content means, how to interpret it, general knowledge, etc, as it states at the top of the page. Despite that, on the principle of "be nice to the newbies", I'll give some personal opinions briefly. The cases of fraud are clearly criminally or legally invalid. Other cases, where fraud has not been an issue, that's up to you to decide, or to debate in an appropriate forum (sorry, I don't have any suggestions of where that would be).

If you believe any of the content is incorrect, unclear, or needs an update, please feel free to leave a message at Talk:Knights Hospitaller, but article talk pages are also not for general knowledge type questions, they are for discussions of an editorial nature (i.e. improving the content).

You could also try Misplaced Pages:Reference desk.

--Murph9000 (talk) 17:06, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Tanyamarietta: I believe that the website sosjinternational.org belongs to the organisation described in Misplaced Pages as a mimic order. (Speaking in my own voice only, not that of Misplaced Pages: Some people respect knighthoods and other honours conferred by sovereign powers. The real Knights Hospitaller are, in a sense, a sovereign power. The organisation to which you refer is not a sovereign power, and has as much, and as little, right to confer knighthoods as I have.) Maproom (talk) 17:23, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

How to reference properly

Hello,

On the Kreayshawn page (Kreayshawn), I've added extra information about her bankruptcy along with a source, but instead of the source being named where all the references are, only a number shows up (in this case, a 1). I have no idea how to fix this and so decided to ask for help on here.

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.15.225 (talk) 15:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

I have fixed the citation (I used the "Templates" option in the top left of the edit panel, selected "cite web", and filled in the necessary fields there). I am not confident that the source cited is as reliable as Misplaced Pages requires, I will leave that to other editors with more knowledge of the entertainment industry. Maproom (talk) 17:06, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! --92.232.15.225 (talk) 18:21, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

API access to Special:Linksearch

I understand from the Help:Linksearch page that I can search for links to non-Misplaced Pages sites.

For example https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?target=*.example.com&title=Special%3ALinkSearch

Is there API access to the Linksearch?

I can't see anything at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php

Thanks!

Edent (talk) 17:09, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

mw:API:Exturlusage may be what you are looking for. I don't know exactly what your intention is here, but please be aware that unapproved bots are prohibited by the bot policy. --Murph9000 (talk) 17:20, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Possible to link infoboxes?

I'd like to create a timeline article about Winston Churchill, similar to Timeline of the presidency of Barack Obama (2016) and Timeline of the presidency of John F. Kennedy. Common practice is to include an infobox in the timeline page. The existing Winston Churchill article includes a well-maintained infobox. This brings me to my question:

Can I insert the Winston Churchill infobox into another page (say, Timeline of the prime ministership of Winston Churchill), in such a way that whenever the timeline on Winston Churchill updates, the infobox on Timeline of the prime ministership of Winston Churchill automatically updates to match?

For example, is there some syntax like:

{{Copy Infobox|Winston Churchill}}

Thanks! Retrent (talk)

It requires the wanted part of Winston Churchill is marked in some way. See Help:Labeled section transclusion for one of the methods. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:52, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Retrent and PrimeHunter, Proceed with caution regarding section transclusions as any named references in this format: <ref name="reference name" /> will not completely transclude. Such references will be left behind. The section being transcluded from must be free of such named references or big giant red errors will appear on the target page. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 02:11, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Frustrated with table

I'm not the most experienced editor so I apologize if this is an easy fix. I need someone to help me out with the award table here. Everything is perfect except the awards listed from 1998-2001. I have no idea how to fix the table code so it shows properly. Some of the awards listed aren't even showing up on the table.

The table looks similar to those found on other artists' pages, so I know its probably an easy fix. But it's frustrated me ever since I stumbled upon it and looks horrible, so any help is appreciated. Thank you Thechased (talk) 20:14, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

 Done, maybe. I fixed the table up so it at least looks sane, but I can't be certain that it's factually accurate, i.e. if the correct stuff is in the correct rows. Please take a careful look and make sure that the result is what you wanted and correct. --Murph9000 (talk) 20:38, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Can't open page. it says: The page "Karat Faye" does not exist. You can ask for it to be created.

Hello, When I then try to create the page it tells me that the page already exists or the name is to close to an existing name. As you will see I am very much alive. Thank You, Karat Faye — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.212.221 (talk) 20:28, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

It is account user:Karat_Faye that does exist, not the page. You was probably confused. Ruslik_Zero 20:47, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Karat. It sounds as if you are confused between accounts and articles. Somebody (presumably you) has created an account on English Misplaced Pages called 'Karat Faye'. If the person who created it logs into that account, they can edit almost anything anywhere on Misplaced Pages.

If they choose, they can create a User page called User:Karat Faye (which at present doesn't exist, so that link appears in red). On that page they may put more or less anything they like that is related to them editing Misplaced Pages. This can include a certain amount of information about themselves, but it must not be made to look like a Misplaced Pages article. Separately from that, if Karat Faye is notable (in Misplaced Pages's special sense - meaning that there is substantial published information about Karat Faye written by people who have not connection with Faye), there could be an encyclopaedia article Karat Faye (also a red link at present). However if you are Karat Faye, you are strongly discouraged from writing such an article, because you are likely to find it hard to write in a suitably neutral manner.

Does this clarify matters for you? --ColinFine (talk) 23:12, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Furthermore, it appears that back in 2008 someone attempted to create an article called Karat Faye, and therefore it will be subject to additional scrutiny when being recreated. Since you state that you are Karat Faye, then I would suggest you use the Article for Creation process which requests another editor to create the article on your behalf. Tiggerjay (talk) 02:18, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

I think you meqan Requested articles, {U|Tiggerjay}}. The AFC process lets people create their own articles, but encourages them to submit them for review before they are moved to mainspace. --ColinFine (talk) 09:57, 20 January 2016 (UTC)@

to remove or archive talk page entry?

I'd like to improve an article's talk page that has become too long and at times contentious, by cleaning it up a bit. Many topics posted have had no response or issues have been resolved like having updated sources cited in the article when requested. Can I delete a topic that I posted, if it has no replies? Or something that has been resolved in the article? Or should everything just be archived? This talk page has no archive yet so one would need to be created, is there a simple cut n paste template to place in the header box? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1305cj (talk • contribs) 20:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

@1305cj: You should not just remove sections from article talk pages. We even have a specific guideline about that. See WP:ARCHIVENOTDELETE. If you want to set up automatic archiving see this help page and pick either the lowercase sigmabot or cluebot template and paste it at the top of the article's talk page. --Majora (talk) 20:50, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

1305cj, You can easily create an archive page manually by adding: /Archive 1

after the Talk page long URL in your web browser address bar and hitting the enter key. Then copy and paste the sections from the active Talk page and save the adds.

If you put this template at the top of the talk page it will create a search and index for the Talk page: {{talk page|search=yes|index=auto}} (include the four curly brackets

Ping me back if I need to clarify this. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 02:23, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Could someone please add Jenny's_Wedding on the List_of_lesbian,_gay,_bisexual_or_transgender-related_films_of_2015?

I'm having trouble doing it. 64.114.70.78 (talk) 22:51, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

 Done Gap9551 (talk) 22:59, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Category rename

I just renamed Category:Members of the Institute of Medicine to Category:Members of the National Academy of Medicine, and I would like some help with moving the articles in that cat to their new title. Everymorning (talk) 23:21, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Everymorning. You can use the category link above to find them. If there is a lot of them to change, AutoWikiBrowser can generate a list from the old Category name, then you can create a task for AWB to change the categories to the new category name, then you can review and approve each edit one-by-one and AWB will save it and move on to the next edit. Alternatively, you can use HotCat from your user Preferences, or you can just open each page in the text editor, go to the bottom of the page and paste the new category over the old category and save it. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 02:15, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

January 20

Lupton family

please help. Refs. 68 and 69 on this page should be aligned together but there is a mathematics sign sign between them. also, can you please do an accent over the "e" on the word Pathe - "British Pathe" - Please remove this maths sign as well so that it looks neater. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 04:03, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

To remove the extra ">" character, go into the article and remove it. For the accent over the e, see the string of previous answers, linked (for example) from Misplaced Pages:Help desk/Archives/2015 September 18#Thomas Fairfax (Gilling). --David Biddulph (talk) 04:18, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your help it is hard for me thanks again and I will try to get it right — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.146.167 (talk) 05:05, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

please see earlier request above. I know i am not good at this - but could someone please help do the accent over the recent edit of the word Pathe and also set the 2 refs together without the maths sign in between. If we try to do these fix ups we wil stuff up the article. Sorry but please help if you can. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.146.167 (talk) 05:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Please see earlier request above. I know I am not good at this - but could someone please help do the accent over the recent edit (references 68 and 69) of the word "Pathe" (on the "e") and also set the 2 refs together without the maths sign in between them. If we try to do these fix ups we will stuff up the article. Sorry David, but can someone please help if you can. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 07:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

 Done as David Biddulph implied, the additional > sign was very likely a typo by the person who added the refs; just needed to be edited out. If you want to add accents, click on the words 'special characters' in the toolbar at the top of the edit window and you will see a drop down giving all the accents, characters and symbols you could ever need! Position your cursor where you want the character to appear and then click on it in the drop down. Eagleash (talk) 07:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. There is a subheading on the Lupton family page titled "Early and Middle Victorian".

We will leave it up to your discretion - but surely this heading should be replaced by the FAR more commonplace expression - "Early and Mid-Victorian" - (ie not "Middle")

You are the experts, so please alter the sub-heading if you think it should be altered. Thanks 101.182.146.167 (talk) 08:06, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

 Done. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 09:56, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. There is a subheading on the Lupton family page titled "Early and Middle Victorian".

We will leave it up to your discretion - but surely this heading should be replaced by the FAR more commonplace expression - "Early and Mid-Victorian" - (ie not "Middle")

You are the experts, so please alter the sub-heading if you think it should be altered. Thanks101.182.146.167 (talk) 09:57, 20 January 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.146.167 (talk) 09:57, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. Somehow you are posting your requests twice - please don't do that. And no, we are not the experts. If you think an article can be improved, go ahead and improve it. The worst that can happen is that somebody disagrees and undoes your change. If they do so, you can either leave it, or if you feel strongly, you can start a discussion with them either on their user talk page, or on the article's talk page. This is how Misplaced Pages works: please see WP:BOLD. --ColinFine (talk) 10:07, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry again- I removed a totally irrelevant ref. on the above page and replaced it with a new one - number 43 - but the date is wrong or SOMETHING is wrong as there are <> signs near it. Please can you fix up - I do not trust myself. I hope the new ref. is OK. 101.182.146.167 (talk) 11:01, 20 January 2016 (UTC) Thanks

 Done You merely duplicated the closing ref tag (</ref>). Also please spell months out in full I.e. January not Jan. and leave gaps. I.e. X Month year. Eagleash (talk) 11:17, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

We didn't need 6 sections all today on the same subject with the same section title. Apart from anything else, repeated sections with the same name confuse the contents list and the ability to get to a specific section. I have moved all the questions into the same section. If you want to ask further questions on the same subject, please do it in the same section. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Help on uploading images/licenses

I forgot what license to look for under Flickr to find images to put on here. But I did find an image on Drake Bell in late 2011, and the image on his article is from 2007. So it may get updated by at least a couple of years, since he got a new hairstyle. Could it be used? And if so, could I perhaps get assistance in uploading it? Thank you in advance. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 05:03, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

@Joseph Prasad: The licenses that can be used can be seen on Commons. That image is marked CC-BY-ND which cannot be used. --Majora (talk) 05:10, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Kinnelon High School, Kinnelon Road, Kinnelon, NJ

Kinnelon High School (KHS) opened in the fall of 1963 for grades 7 through 12 as there was no middle-school at that time. I attended grades 7 through 12 graduating in the Fall of 1969. I was surprised to see that Misplaced Pages states that KHS is in Butler, NJ. Please note that Butler High School was our number 1 rival during the six years I attended KHS. Prior to the opening of KHS our high-school students did attend Butler High School. Butler is the municipality immediately to the North of Kinnelon in Morris County, NJ.

I'll stop back periodically to see if Misplaced Pages corrects this error.

Respectfully,

Barry McCloud (former resident of Kinnelon, NJ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.5.224 (talk) 06:53, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Our article on Kinnelon High School says, both in the lead sentence and in the infobox, that the school is in Kinnelon, NJ. Not Butler. I even tried scrolling back through the revisions and I do not see where it ever said it was in Butler. So if you are seeing where it says Butler please be more specific so someone can assist you. --Majora (talk) 06:58, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

This is a Google Knowledge Graph problem, not a Misplaced Pages one - please take this up with Google, as there is nothing we can do. Our standard answer is:-

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Misplaced Pages" to indicate that particular text was copied from Misplaced Pages. An image and other text before or after the Misplaced Pages excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Misplaced Pages. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. - Arjayay (talk) 09:52, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

How to create a table with sorting feature?

 Done Dear all,

I noticed that some tables on Misplaced Pages have a sorting feature in the first row of cells (i.e. the column captions).

Clicking on these arrows allows the user to sort the entries (e.g. ascending/descending by name).

How can I add this feature to one of my tables?

Thankfully,

Orschiro (talk) 09:42, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

@Orschiro: Hi! Yes, it is possible by changing class="wikitable" to class="wikitable sortable" in wikicode. See more here. Or you can tell, which tables you want to make sortable. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 09:52, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Dear Edgars2007,

Thank you for your help! I did not find this option in the graphical edit mode (not source). Can this option maybe be added to the graphical mode?

Thankfully,

Orschiro (talk) 10:11, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Peter Kavanagh

Please check ref. number 3 on this page. I THINK the date needs to be fixed. Plus do you think there are enough verifiable refs? Cheers101.182.146.167 (talk) 10:26, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

 Done You meant Peter Kavanagh (Australian politician); the link you posted was just to the disambiguation page. It was the easiest possible fix and you should at least attempt these yourself. The article has reasonable refs, but could probably benefit from some additional ones. Eagleash (talk) 10:38, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

For the should know better file

Blythwood (talk) 12:15, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

ECPMF article proposal

Dears, I'm thinking about creating a Misplaced Pages article concerning the European Centre for Press and Media Freedom (ECPMF). Before drafting the page, though, I would like to have your opinion on whether the subject already meets the notability criteria. Thank you, --Davide Denti (OBC) (talk) 15:29, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Succession box template not working

I have been trying to add a succession box template to Karen Weaver, but it is not displaying properly, and I would appreciate some help in fixing it. Thanks. Everymorning (talk) 18:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

 Fixed Per Template:Succession box, you require {{S-start}} and {{S-end}} templates to start and end the box. Murph9000 (talk) 18:51, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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