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Requested move 12 October 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus is that the proposed title is the most common name. History swap required as there was some not-insignificant history at the target title. Jenks24 (talk) 08:56, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Naseem Shah → Naz Shah – WP:COMMONNAME. Media coverage usually refers to her as Naz, as does her Parliamentary profile and her Twitter Move allowed by admin only for unclear reasons. News favours Naz over Naseem by a large margin AusLondonder (talk) 00:18, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Support. Naseem is her birth and childhood name, Naz looks like a shortening, but all indications are that it is now used as her proper name, with the offical MP webpage http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/naz-shah/4409 using "Naz", in addition to newspapers, it is clear that "Naz" is her used and accepted name. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:29, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

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Please change "She voted for George Galloway at the Bradford West by-election in 2012" to read "She claims to have voted for George Galloway at the Bradford West by-election in 2012" or similar.

Voting in UK elections is secret and the existing statement is incapable of verification.

Done - although I used "stated" instead of "claims", which some see as a value-laden phrase - Arjayay (talk) 16:38, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

racism

Article needs coverage of Shah's aggressive, race-hatred of Jews.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:58, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

The article already covers several antisemitic comments from Shah, are there any more comments that you think should be added? Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 21:43, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

The section should be headed racism, with the present headers used as sub-heads. As it stands, a reader scanning the page - as we all do - misses the issue, which is the overt racism of her attitudes over the period of several years.160.39.35.48 (talk) 18:33, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Why not quote Ken Livingstone's words?

>following his allegations that Hitler was a Zionist

He made no such allegations. Words have meaning and distorting them brings Misplaced Pages into disrepute. What he said is not long.

"What he said is not long". Do you mean long or wrong? If you mean long, that's pretty meaningless. If you mean wrong, then you are saying what Livingstone said is correct. And what Livingstone said is wrong. Hitler never backed Jewish migration to Israel. For many reasons. Wythy (talk) 17:57, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

131.111.184.102 (talk) 11:21, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

That's a very legitimate issue. I think I've fixed it now so that it directly and accurately quotes what Livingstone said. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:19, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Why should this article explain what Livingstone said? Is it not sufficient to mention he was expelled from the party for anti-semitic remarks?--Ymblanter (talk) 15:22, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, he was expelled from the party trying to explain away comments made by Shah. I'm not bothered either way. The article on Livingstone can contain his comments from the interview. I was only really interested in ensuring that if we quote his comments in this article, they are accurate. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:08, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Sure, I am just not so much convinced we should quote them at all.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:09, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Suggested additional source -- in quoting responses to the controversy around Shah, it's probably relevant to quote another extremely prominent UK voice, George Galloway. See his statement: http://ahtribune.com/religion/856-naz-shah-anti-semitism.html. Thanks.SM-Mara (talk) 18:32, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

What in particular about Galloway's statement do you feel needs to be included? And on what basis, given he is neither an elected MP nor a member of the Labour Party and is currently on course to get 0-2% of the vote and end up fifth in the London mayoral election? —Tom Morris (talk) 19:52, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Not sure. He's a well-known and prominent person whose commentary could add breadth to discussion, but perhaps doesn't represent additional info not already covered. Was seeking range of sources in following the topic. SM-Mara (talk) 18:28, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Galloway is the former MP for Bradford West who Shah beat in the May 2015 election, so I believe his comments are relevant. This quote below is the part that I think is relevant;

"It is said, and seems to have been accepted in some unlikely places, that Shah is guilty of "anti-Semitism". She is not, at least on the evidence which has emerged to date. Her comments are half-witted to be sure, and their appearance at this time will prove a mighty headache for Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn (who is actually what this is all about) and may prove very significant in British politics over the next few months. But they are not anti-Semitic."

I have tried to give a summary of the quote. Please feel free to improve what I have added. Ulgarg (talk) 20:12, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Just been trying to find out something about the "American Herald Tribune" but can't find anything about them except a small amount on their webpage. Do we know anything about them, SM-Mara? Are they reputable? Ulgarg (talk) 20:19, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Marriage

The article says she was married by arrangement. Is the marriage now dissolved? Has she remarried or is she single, or what? Wythy (talk) 17:49, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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