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Mediation Case: 2006-08-25 Honda S2000

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Request Information

Request made by:AKADriver 15:54, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Where is the issue taking place?
Honda S2000 and Talk:Honda S2000
Who's involved?
User:AKADriver, User:SpinyNorman, User:Zunaid, a few anonymous users and others
What's going on?
An edit war has flared up regarding the encyclopedic value of a "criticism" section. I claim that it's not (and worse, seems to be a thinly veiled POV attack). User:SpinyNorman claims that removing it amounts to censorship. User:Zunaid believes consensus is in my favor. I have attempted to compromise by simply shortening the section to improve the way it flows in the article, but that gets reverted to the long-winded version. Any attempts to shorten or remove that section are reverted by User:SpinyNorman within 24 hours.
What would you like to change about that?
Outside input is required as to determine whether the debate is as one-sided as User:Zunaid believes. If my position is just one of two equally valid ones, that's okay, we have work to do then. If either position is in fact a consensus, then action of some sort is needed to calm radical opinions (mine or his).
Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
My talk page is fine.

Mediator response

I propose to find a mutual agreement as to what amount subjective (positive as well as critical) content should be published in the articles of Misplaced Pages as online Encyclopedia. Literal Encyclopedias generally show the features and characteristics of articles in a quite neutral manner. Anyway, Misplaced Pages - as a well known open source instrument for providing and deriving information - is in my opinion expected to provide also subjective information comparable to the customer's reviews in the amazon online bookstore which reviews are often highly appreciated in the decision making of the customers. The basic question of the pending dispute could accordingly be simply the question to what extent this subjective information should be added to the article's description. I'd like to mediate in this case and if you agree I'd like to keep the proceedings confidential because the behaviour and argumentation of the parties is likely to change dependent on the publicity of the posts.

Fly (attorney and educated mediator)

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