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Doc9871
Doc9871 (talk · contribs) topic banned 1 month from all pages related to Donald Trump by Bishonen (talk · contribs), and is further warned that any disruption in the topic areas covered under Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2 will lead to an extension and/or broadening of the ban. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:07, 2 August 2016 (UTC) |
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning Doc9871
On the talk page of Donald Trump
On the Donald Trump article itself. Please be aware that the article is under a 1RR restriction:
blocked as part of Arbitration Enforcement on two previous occasions, both fairly recent, for exactly the same article.
In regard to the second diff, in case Doc tries to argue that the above listed edit were not reverts, please note the discussion that followed his May 2016 block where the blocking admin, User:Coffee explains to him precisely what a revert is. So he knew he was doing bad.
See above. The user has been sanctioned on these articles under DS previously and also received a recent notification (I was not aware he had previous blocks in this area until I started writing this report)
Personally I can't tell if this is some kind of personal grudge (the nature of Doc's comments come off that way) or it's just the topic involved. Either way, it's clear that the user has decided unilaterally that I should not be allowed to edit the article for some reason, and has proceeded to edit war, breaking not just 1RR (which the article is subject to) but even 3RR, making very petty reverts. My edits didn't even change the text, just improved the sourcing so this is clearly a WP:POINT violation, where Doc is basically saying "I will not allow you to make a single edit to this article". Even putting aside the edit warring and the personal attacks, this is disruptive and unacceptable. In light of the previous blocks the user received See also these two previous AN/I threads which document exactly the same problematic behavior in other areas. This means previous warnings have been issued. Repeatedly. a dispute with User:SMcCandlish, closed by User:John, and initiated by User:John (don't know how that ended up).Volunteer Marek (talk) 10:21, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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Statement by JohnuniqWould admins please explain to Doc9871 that whacking people with a wet trout is not a substitute for a calm exchange of views, and this diff at User talk:Bishonen#August 2016 is entirely inappropriate. I see several aspersions being cast above, and no evidence. Johnuniq (talk) 12:05, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Statement by SMcCandlishI'm reluctant to get into any dispute involving Doc9871, but this is the same problem as last year. Volunteer Marek diffed my previous ANI complaint, but there were two; the second also closed without action, despite being about immediate resumption of the same behavior after a warning. No consequences = no impetus for adjustment. There's no excuse for comments like "You really have no business editing this article", and others diffed by Marek (there is no requirement that editors be neutral, only content must be; are any editors neutral about Trump?). The "Don't challenge me ... You have no chance getting me on a "personal attack'" battlegrounding mirrors the stuff last year (e.g.: "Open an AN/I on me if you want." and several other such 'I'm invincible' challenges, "Ask around if I am one to quarrel with. I will 'Wikilawyer' you, and really good. You don't have to like me: you have to reckon with me.", "You're playing with fire. You better know when to recognize this.", "I will fight this PC nonsense until the bitter end."). (Actually, I just realized this previous matter really is American-political, an anti-progressivism stance.) Doc9871 uses others' block logs as weapons, and struts that he is immune to repercussions just because his own block log is clean , , , (samples from his months-long, bad-faith-assuming and veiled-threat abuse of a single editor, Ihardlythinkso, in a pattern repeated later with me). WP does not need a gangland kingpin. This behavior has to stop. I suggest prohibiting Doc9871 from:
Give escalating blocks for recurrent transgressions. This would nip this battlegrounding problem in the bud. All four of these behaviors are consistently exhibited in Doc's aggressive soapboxing against Ihardlythinkso, myself, and Volunteer Marek in series, over a long time; it's not a fluke or coincidence. AE should put out Doc's "fire", since ANI never results in action due to Doc having a bit of a fan club. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ⱷ҅ᴥⱷ≼ 12:29, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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62.0.34.134
Clear violation after several warnings. Blocked 72 hours. Seraphimblade 16:41, 4 August 2016 (UTC) |
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning 62.0.34.134
This editor has been repeatedly warned that IPs are prohibited from editing any article that may be reasonably construed as being related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Yet the IP continues to make such edits. It would appear from the content that the same editor has been using this IP for several weeks,
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Volunter Marek and My very best wishes
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- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
Volunteer Marek and My very best wishes have a history of tag-teaming in edit wars. Lately they have been doing this in articles relating to American politics.
Examples:
Since July 24, Volunteer Marek was edit-warring at Debbie Wasserman Schultz, especially regarding material on criticism of how DWS handled the NGP VAN data breach and the fact that she was booed off the stage at the DNC .
Then on August 2, My very best wishes, who had hitherto never shown any interest in the article, appears out of nowhere to revert on behalf of Volunteer Marek (violating 1RR as well) .
Same thing at Clinton Foundation on 8-9 July: My very best wishes steps in to revert on behalf of Volunteer Marek over a POV tag . They're tag teaming over other information as well:
Same thing at Donald Trump on July 4: Volunteer Marek adds some text , and after it is removed, Mvbw shows up a few hours later to re-add it, even though he has never edited the article before .
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- I have warned both users about the tag-teaming here and here.
- Volunteer Marek alerted of EE sanctions by Callanecc. Volunteer Marek also alerted of WP:ARBAPDS sanctions by Kelly
- My very best wishes alerted of EE sanctions by EdJohnston. Aware of WP:ARBAPDS sanctions here.
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I had previously made a case request at WP:ARBCOM regarding tag teaming in eastern Europe related articles, but since that area is already under discretionary sanctions, I was told to file at WP:AE instead. There's a long history of tag-teaming, and it is not limited to WP:EE or WP:ARBAPDS.
Beginning mid-2014 (and possibly earlier), Volunteer Marek and My very best wishes appear to be helping each other out in edit-wars by tag-teaming. VM is the more active of the two, and the tag-teaming typically has the form of VM getting involved in an edit-war in an article that My very best wishes has not previously edited. Once the edit-war is under way, My very best wishes appears out of nowhere and reverts on VM’s behalf. In a minority of instances, it is VM that steps into an edit-war that Mvbw is involved.
Since mid-2014, the tag teaming has occurred over a large number of articles (at least 40 in 2015 alone, although there are possibly more), some of which are quite obscure (e.g. Philip M. Breedlove, Khan al-Assal chemical attack, The Harvest of Sorrow). Initially the tag-teaming was restricted to Eastern Europe-related articles, particularly the Ukraine crisis, but as of 2015 it has spread to non-EE articles (example), hence I'm inclined to believe that it's not merely mutual interests that guides them. Furthermore, though both these editors have edited for a long time, they edited few articles in common in the period 2012-mid 2014, with the number of articles they edit in common skyrocketing after that. It should be noted that VM edits a far larger variety of articles than Mvbw does; however, most of the articles Mvbw chooses to edit after mid-2014 appear to be articles VM edits, especially of those he is facing contention (i.e. the April contributions of Mvbw and VM are noticeably similar). The disruption this has caused is considerable. Some examples below: I don’t think all this is needed. Just a brief explanation as above and a link to the evidence page is sufficient.
- WP:GAME - Tag-teaming so as to circumvent 1RR articles, which appears to be the case at WP:ARBAPDS as well. See: followed by Mvbw's reverts . Then an attempt to have their opponents blocked at 3RRN . An example of this occurred recently at Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War, where VM ran out of 1RR reverts, only to have Mvbw revert and ultimately have the user blocked.
- Outnumbering lone opponents (sometimes having them blocked; example) ]) Not sure about this. How does one diff prove that?
- Article protections (example)
- Hampering the consensus building process (most noticeable through NINJA-style reverts with no TP participation; example) Not sure about this. How does one diff prove that?
In order to see the extent of the tag-teaming, I have provided an extensive list of tag-team edit-war occurrences over the past year here.
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