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I see you've been editing my Battle of Krasnoi article...you added Hess's famous painting of the battle yesterday. I have read a great deal about Napoleon's 1812 Invasion of Russia, and I'd like to collaborate with others in creating/maintaining articles on the 1812 war in Misplaced Pages. I'm interested in Russian sources regarding these battles, as they have been traditionally overlooked by western historians who write about the 1812 war. Contact me at my home email. Regards, Kenmore Holy crap!Holy crap, you've contributed exponentially! I envy you! Good work. Aaрон Кинни (t) 06:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC) on leavingTake it from me who's been living here in the West for ten years. They look and sound more menacing than they are. If you can, please don't become angry. You can keep any article you like for yourself, but not on Misplaced Pages. They do it to prevent a hierarchy from springing up. I'm not telling you to be awash wtih joy when your article becomes edited, but it wouldn't hurt to take a filosofskaja perspektiva on the thing. --VKokielov 17:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
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Romanesque, Baroque...Quousque tandem, Ghirlandajo?Dear Ghirla... I think that there is a structural problem with our editions. I thank (again) your efforts and encourage you to continue with this project, I think that it is worthwhile. When I first heard about it, I felt so surprised and emotioned thinking in a free, universal Enciclopedia, at everybody´s hands, free and collaborative, I couldn´t resist to form part of it. I don´t know more of your leaving than the messages above, but think it twice. Now...I think part of the problem could be that we cannot think that the only valid point of view is ours. I know that you write a lot (A LOT) in this wikipedia, and it can be tiring to see that your editions are changed. If we change what we think is bad (or false, or incomplete...) somebody else can think that that was complete, or true or fine. THAT IS THE POINT FOR THE TALK PAGES. I say this for several editions and reversions you have just made because that was your point of view, without a simple word, as if you were tired of giving explanations to poor ignorants. Some of them have been already discussed, but now I find: 1- That the article you have made of Baroque Architecture is "untouchable": no word can be added or removed without a reversion. The only explanation is: "Garcilaso, please integrate your additions into Spanish Baroque and Spanish architecture; this article is just a brief overview; it cannot be endless)". Well, you may think that the article is perfect like that, but I think it is not. If it gives the only explanation of Churrigueresque as a superficial, decorative style for plain facades, the vission of the style is incomplete, and not "enciclopedian". After that briliant speech about facades, one can be mistaken. Not mentioning two important baroque spatial structures like Granada`s Charterhouse or Transparente from the Cathedral of Toledo is form my point of view, unwise for a general overview of the style. The same happens to the Madrid 17th century baroque. Who are you to decide about what is relevant or what is not more than other wikipedists? I told you once, and I implore again: Ask before deleting! 2-You didn´t even know about the existence of the First Romanesque and find yourself capable to decide WITHOUT discussing the fact, which is the correct name for the article. As you recognized, there are other wikipedian who know more about that subject. Some have participated in the discussion, and found that the best name for the article is First Romanesque. Please, please, ASK before deleting or moving, yours is not the only point of view in the world, and perhaps others have good documentation too, although their level of English could be worse. I again encourage you to continue with your valious apportations to this project, the only thing I want to transmit you is that listening and talking and improving a poor article is much better that the best of the editions if it is authoritarian, and collaterally, one could learn a lot!. Yours sincerely, До скорой встречи,Garcilaso 16:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Father ArsenyI was wanting to create a father arseny page but lack info. Please help. Thanks LoveMonkey 17:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
You are not to even think of leaving!I leave this site for five fucking minutes, and what do I return to? - Shock! I'm mortified you uncouth bastard Ghirla, you have used the "eff word" in public - what sort of dumb fucking bastard are you? Rude edit summaries too? - it's beyond belief - you should be flogged off the site while simultaneously being tarred and feathered. Well that all seems to have happened, so would you mind now returning so we can all get on with the project in hand, and in future remember some people have very middle class sensibilities and while you and I may periodically say to each other "your last edit was a load of fucking rubbish" some other people are of a little more delicate disposition. I'm glad to see Wetman has tried to talk common sense into you - (he could be forgiven, as the only gentleman on the site, for thinking he keeps some very strange company) - so come on get real and lets get on with it! Oh and if you are now seeing sense, could you please expand Alessio Tramello (no-one else, save Wetman, is likely to have the ability) as per request on my talk page as I have been skiving from a real life job to go and watch football, and now have to spend a few serious days in the real fucking world Giano | talk 20:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry to see you go. This is a big loss to the English Misplaced Pages. Good luck with the Russian language version. 172 | Talk 06:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC) What a Delightful ContributionWhat a delightful contribution, Giano. I'm sure Ghirla will reconsider his thoughts on leaving, especially since you actually left your real life job momentarily, to go and watch football. Dr. Dan 22:55, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Winter WarYour edit comment for undoing Kurt Leyman's edit on Winter War was "rvv", despite his edit comment and his entry on the Talk page. While I agree with your revision, I don't think Kurt's edit was vandalism. Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. See Misplaced Pages:Assume good faith for the guidelines on this. -- JHunterJ 15:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
TerminalsDon't we all just love Nixer. I could explain him for the zillionth time that what he does in plain rude, but technically he is not violating anything. As long as he doesn't, I just don't want to waste my time on one letter discrepancy, moving stuff back and forth. In this context, it doesn't make one iota of a difference. Unless his moves interfere with work of other editors (and please let me know if they do), I abstain.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC) Lvov familyThanks for the reply. I was in Aleksin and Popovka yesterday. I now know that the last 2 sentences in that little section I wrote on the estate were rubbish. The house burnt down before WW2 having been used as a Dom Kulturi since the revolution. Are there any problems other than that? I think it would be a good idea to have some reference to the L'vov family's estate in Popovka on their page. I belive they were only there from the mid 19th century until the revolution but I still think it's relevant. There are various memorials to Georgi Evgenevich in both Aleksin and Popovka. Thanks again. http://ru.wikipedia.org/АварцыCould you expand Caucasian Avars by translating above mentioned article? I would be very grateful. Regards, Luka Jačov 23:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Don't bother meAny time you revert without discussion I will be happy to re-revert you. Note that I did not re-revert Mikkalai's revert even though he made the exact same revert because he entered discussion on the talk page. --Ideogram 01:36, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Remember June 17th? Yes, that was when you had a row over the redirection/disambiguation page Oleg, had a row with Halibutt and supported me against a RUSSIAN user over Pyotr Leschenko. June 17th was also the day when Ideogram proposed to mediate between you and Suicup. The same day, he was at the village pump asking whether sending e-mails to other guys someone had a tiff with before proposing that person for RfC, would be considered canvassing for votes. (archive, so you'll have to search for "Ideogram") Three days later, he is at your talk page, threatening with ArbCom. When you take this off, he suggests an RfC on you at the Russo-Turkish War talk page. All of this within his first month at Misplaced Pages. And now the mediator is in a revert war with you over exactly the same matter! So, forget it, putting up a NPOV disputed tag over that section was the only thing to do.--Pan Gerwazy 12:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Manuel TolsáHi. That's not ridiculous at all, although I admit I should have cited a source for it. It's not my opinion, but an opinion expressed in several of my sources. (I'm not qualified to have an opinion on that question.) Here is one source: "It is one of the finest in America, and, according to Humboldt, second only to the statue of Marcus Aurelius in Rome." The original Humboldt quote is "M. Tolsa, professor of sculpture at Mexico, was even able to cast an equestrian statue of King Charles the Fourth; a work which, with the exception of the Marcus Aurelius at Rome, surpasses in beauty and purity of style everything which remains in this way in Europe." I actually toned that statement down somewhat to allow for the passage of time, for one thing. Both of the statues mentioned in the quote are used as illustrations in the Misplaced Pages article Equestrian statue. Here is a quote from Frances Calderón de la Barca's Life in Mexico:
My intention was to show the level of artistic achievement in Mexico at the time. I think that is an important point to make. I plan to put the direct quote from Humboldt in the article. I don't see how there could be any objection to that. But please let me know what you think. Rbraunwa 17:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC) Hi. I put the Humboldt quote in the article. Thanks for adding the other image, by the way. Rbraunwa 06:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC) DYK, again
Image:Falconet - Pygmalion & Galatee (1763).jpgActually I do not know when the photo was taken. What it would be your advice? (meladina 13:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC))
AvarsThanks anyway. Did you translate the Avarian Khanate from Russian Misplaced Pages too? Two new articles came from this who couldnt be more satisfied. Luka Jačov 16:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC) Congress of Berlin POV problemsWe seem to be unable to agree on what to leave here, as I've changed it several times now only to have you revert it. Since continuing as we've been is pointless and fruitless, let's see if we can come to some sort of agreement about what to put in. The official name of the city on the Bosphorus has not been Constantinople for several hundred years, since the Ottoman takeover in 1453. It seems like a better idea to me to list the then-official name of the city rather than a Western name, but I am not hard set on that. However, I have a problem with the phrase "Bulgaria and several Orthodox Slavic states were precluded from gaining independence after centuries of the Muslim Ottoman yoke." The whole sentence reads as being negatively biased against Muslims and Ottomans, and positively biased towards the Orthodox Slavs. The word "yoke" in particular has only negative meanings in this context. While some may have/do consider the Ottoman rule of the Balkans to be oppressive, it is not the place of a neutral encyclopedia to decide whether or not it was oppressive. And finally, just to set the record straight, I am neither Turkish nor Muslim, nor do I have any feelings one way or the other about Turks or Muslims. My changes have not been nationalist, rather they are simply an attempt to keep the article neutral. Considering the anti-Muslim Ottoman and pro-Orthodox Slavic nature of this phrase, however, I can't help but wonder if you may have some bias yourself? I don't mean that as an insult, just an observation. I sincerely hope we can work this problem out to both of our satisfaction. Please feel free to post any comments on my talk page as well. Tev 23:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Dafni redirectHi Ghirlandajo, You changed the redirect of Dafni from the disambiguation page to the monastery page, stating that it caused the article to be orphaned. I don't understand this, as there would still be tonnes of links to the monastery page, especially from the World Heritage template you recently changed to reflect the move. The point of a disambiguation page is for people who type a subject into the search box. Preferably, no article should link to a disambiguation page, but directly link to the desired article. So the argument of changing a redirect due to orphaning reasons shouldn't occur. The links that now link to the Dafni redirect (since the exclusion of the world heritage areas) are mostly trying to link to one the towns. I would like to change it back, but would rather wait for your reply. Thanks --liquidGhoul 11:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
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OrenburgSchool project (or whatever that is) is back again, I would guess. I wonder if they are going to pillage articles on Russian cities every semester; it's getting quite tiring. I still have a backlog from previous occurences. I wish they at least answered any inquiries, but they never do, which is a pity. If we could show them how to do things right, they could be very useful. Anyway, I copyedited Orenburg, please feel free to review in case I missed anything.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 12:33, 21 July 2006 (UTC) AlexandrovWas it? I have nothing to look it up at this time. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC) DYK
SarirYou cited some academics in this article but it doesn't seem to show the source from which you pulled the information. Could you please add that while it's probably still fresh in your mind? gren グレン 07:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC) ДевятаевПривет! Как я выяснил, существует 2 статьи про одного моего земляка. Mikhail Devyatayev и Mikhail Petrovich Devyatayev. Нельзя ли привлечь общественнось к разарботке одной и наиболее полной статьи :) Кстати, среди жителей Казани Девятаев считается "сомнительным героем", т.к. как рассказывают, немцы после его побега провели децимацию узников лагеря... зато куда большей его заслугой считается тоЮ, что он испытывал и водил первыые в мире суда на подводных крыльях ("Ракеты"). --Untifler 14:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC) Russo-Turkish War, 1710-1711I inserted "Russian Tsardom" (the term found in "Muscovy" intro) to avoid the "Muscovy" reference, which sounds stupid in reference to this time period. Could you please split the Muscovy article to make a good reference to a period of Russian history after "великое княжество Московское" and before Russian Empire? Is there a good English term? `'mikka (t) 18:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
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что значит by no means typical stalinist?Это как?! Этот стиль - не только высотки в Москве. Такое здание не могло быть построено до революции, ни в эпоху конструктивизма, ни тем более во времена хрущёвок/брежневок. Это типичный стиль сталинского периода. Почему ты думаешь иначе? ----Ъыь 11:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC) А это - тоже не сталинский стиль?! ----Ъыь 11:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank youThank you, Ghirlandajo for the explanation of the "peacock language". Now I really agree with you on that. And you really understand about styles of architecture. Drama of songs is when a poet becomes a playwriter and writes a play Juraune 11:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
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Once again, thanks for the great article -- Samir धर्म 13:20, 24 July 2006 (UTC) Pella PalaceIt is not the first time I tell you this. You do not have any editorial control over the presentation or content of an article. This revert had no justification whatsoever. Circeus 15:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Invitation to join Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Eastern OrthodoxyHi there! I've noticed that you've edited articles pertaining to the Eastern Orthodox Church. I wanted to extend an invitation to you to join the WikiProject dedicated to organizing and improving articles on the subject, which can be found at: WikiProject Eastern Orthodoxy. This WikiProject was begun because a need was perceived to raise the level of quality of articles on Misplaced Pages which deal with the Eastern Orthodox Church. You can find information on the project page about the WikiProject, as well as how to join and how to indicate that you are a member of the project. Additionally, you may be interested in helping out with our collaboration of the month. I hope you'll consider joining and thank you for your contributions thus far! —A.S. Damick 18:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC) re:Template:Hero CitiesI'm not sure what is the problem with inclusion. I can see a potential case for not having it at all (that the link is rather coincidental and not necessarily worthy of a navigational template, but I doubt that'll be enough for TFD), but as long as the template exists, I am not sure what arguments can be proposed against its inclusion in Moscow or Kiev. Is there some potential PoV issue that I'm not seeing? I can see one or two ways the template can be refactored, though. Right now, I'm not sure why it should take as wide a space as it does, and the split by countries does not seem to be so relevant. After all, it is their status as Hero Cities that is outlined in the emplate, not their exact location ({{Metros in FSU}}, to take a random example, has no such split). Besides, if I am not mitaken, they were all part of the same political entity at the time they were awarded. Circeus 14:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
KolaRe this. "Of which it is now considered a suburb" implies that there is an official definition of a "suburb" (there is none in Russia). It also suggests that Kola is currently subordinated to Murmansk or is even a part of it, but in reality it is not directly subordinated to either Murmansk or to Murmansk Oblast. It is a raion-level town, the administrative center of its own Kolsky Raion. The fact is that Kola is located in the vicinity of Murmansk, and that Murmansk and Kola residents probably view Kola as a "suburb", because Kola was Murmansk's sattelite for so long. That, however, is just a colloquial expression. I am not convinced that such wording is better for encyclopedic purposes than my version. If you have any suggestions as to how to improve wording without losing essential information, I am quite open to hearing them. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
"Incompetent" move back to Pik Lenina
RE:CongratsHey. I wouldn't speak too soon. The Poles are pretty tenacious, and doubtless will campaign vigorously or find some device to get it moved to a Polonocentric name. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 14:17, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
I seem to have stumbled into a historical picture preferenceHi, I noticed your edit comments on the page for Nevsky Prospekt about the "superior" historical image that I replaced. I had not read the Nevsky Prospekt page prior to visiting today but was certainly surprised not to find a modern picture in place. I realized that I had a few, though they were certainly not the most stellar examples. I guess there's no reason to "orphan" one of the historical pictures, but I hope you aren't implying that there shouldn't be a picture there from the last hundred years! Maybe all three can be on there? (I only delinked the one because of the excess of pictures on the page!) If you have a better modern picture, that would also be fabulous. Let me know what you think InvictaHOG 16:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC) Ethnic slurGhirlandajo, I agree with you that there have been some problems from some members of the Polish Wikipedian community. However, I find this particular comment that you made about Poles being a type of "Holes", offensive . Could I please ask you to reconsider your words, and remove the comment? --Elonka 17:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC) Hi Ghirlandajo, you have been active since the above request was made, but I see no reply here or on Elonka's talk page. Please respond as soon as possible, see WP:AN/I#Ethnic_slur for more on this subject. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 17:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Svetlogorsk photosЗдравствуй Гирландайо! Хочу спросить - чем тебе так понравились зимнее фотки летнего курорта? :) Речь идет о Светлогорске. Если кому интересно, на статье уже есть ссылка на Wikimedia Commons где старые фотки и другие (кстати я туда свои помещу чтобы потом на Русской и других уикипедиях разместить). Еще вопрос - почему ревертал последний параграф? Moonshiner 23:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC) Yury Velten
Personal remarksThere is never a reason to make personal remarks about another editor, and nationality has nothing to do with editing. If you have a complaint about a specific editor's behavior, that's one thing, but there is no reason to refer to groups of editors by their nationality, as you did here. This is not the first time this has been a problem, see Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/AndriyK#Ghirlandajo_warned and Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Ghirlandajo. Thus, I am blocking you for 48 hours and warning you again to avoid personal remarks. Friday (talk) 17:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
S volkami zhit, po volchyi vyt. Protiv loma net priyoma esli net drugogo loma. Duraka rabota lyubit. Proletarii vseh stran soedinaites. Ili pan ili propal. Tolko blednolitsy mozhet tri raza nastupit na odni i te zhe grabli. That's all I can say in this respect. `'mikka (t) 22:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
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See also the discussion on my talkpage. dab (ᛏ) 16:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Can someone tell me, or translate for me, the meaning (as a native speaker of English, I don't understand the remark), what the meaning of the phrase the Poles use us like holes is suppose to mean in English. It's seems pejorative on the surface, but I honestly don't understand its intent or what it is supposed to mean. Thanks, Dr. Dan 18:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
DYK reminderJust a friendly reminder to list DYK proposals at the bottom of the relevant date, rather than the top. BigHaz 22:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Alexander PalaceDear Ghirlandajo: It's Bob Atchison from the Alexander Palace Time Machine. I changed, corrected (we have redone many of the online books) and added some links on some of your pages that pertain to the Romanovs and the Alexander Palace, but you deleted them as spam. We have thousands of pages in our site - as you know - and Yahoo named it "Site of the Year" a few years back. Millions of people visit the site every year and our 20 online books are used by schools around the globe. Our discussion forum on Russian History has around 4,000 registered users and 200,000 postings in the 18 months. We are not trying to get more traffic via these links - we have lots already. I posted these from my IP - I didn't get an account until just now so that I could write you.
Rulers of Kievan Rus'You may be interested in this addition, about which purported knyaz I have never heard. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 13:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC) Possible Molobo returnIt is a problem that I cannot use checkuser, as the logs do not go back far enough. Molobo's last edit was so long ago that I get no results, and have nothing to compare the current IPs to (even at Molobo's own request). The IP editor in question, however, is clearly a sockpuppet of someone, and someone who's been in the thick of it before. Unfortunately, it's on many IPs, and so there's no easy solution. I suggest you go to WP:ANI and present the clear evidence that this is not a new user, but an abusive reincarnation of a probably banned user, and see if you can get some admins on his tail. Dmcdevit·t 17:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Eternal Equinox/WorkshopThank you for your supportive comments here They are appreciated. That Fred Bauder thinks I can be banned instead of Eternal Equinox has caused me to have a severe sense of humour failure. In retrospect, of course instead of making light of Eternal Equinox, I should have taken her very seriously - which is what she wanted - but frankly she and her edits on our talk pages were (at best) a joke - so one could either laugh or cry, and crying has never been my style. That Fred Bauder thinks Bishonen should be "cautioned" is, in short, disgusting. She seems to spend hours and hours trying to create harmony on the site, and takes her responsibilities as an admin 100 times more seriously then most of the others. I think the Arb-com now needs a huge kick, and to rid itself of insulting and incompetent buffoons. I expect I shall stick around Misplaced Pages, but at the moment mu entheusiasm for it is at an all time low. Sorry this is a (sort of) spammed message, but when I saw all of your comments for the first time this evening, I felt a quick response was necessary, but that makes it no less sincere. Thanks once again, it's nice to feel supported. Giano | talk 19:42, 31 July 2006 (UTC) DYK
Baku fire templehi Ghirla - I don't know anything about it, but it looks fairly referenced, and agreement seems to have been reached between editors, so I assume it's ok. The only way to be sure is to check the references yourself, of course. regards, dab (ᛏ) 22:55, 1 August 2006 (UTC) Pointless editsI was waiting for someone to point out. Hahahha. Thanks. --Bhadani 15:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
In (the) Bryansk OblastHah, I knew you'd ask! Anyway, first of all, Google is not our friend, it's just a tool that can easily be misused (any common typo would collect a respectable number of hits, for example). Second, your googlefight link is to "Bryansk region" vs. "the Bryansk region", which is not the same as Bryansk Oblast ("Bryansk region" can refer to any area around Bryansk, not necessarily to just the oblast). "Bryansk region" can easily take the definite article, when one speaks of a certain (i.e., previously defined) region around Bryansk. Third, look at this :) Fourth, the number of hits returned in both cases is too small to make an accurate judgement. Fifth, I actually happened to ask native speakers about what they think of this issue—you can find the discussion in my archives here—the bottom line is that while using the definite article before the name of a krai/oblast is not entirely incorrect, it sounds archaic. I ain't gonna argue with an English major on that :) And finally, the majority of articles utilizing the similar construct ("in X Oblast") do not use definite articles, so I removed the one in question partially for consistency sake. Hope this answers your questions.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC) Cheers!I thought that you may be interested: - - & BTW, like you I too had thought of leaving, but did not as we have miles to go! --Bhadani 17:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Novosil - town statusHi there Andrei! I got this info from the Russian Misplaced Pages. There's also a Мой Город encyclopedia (sort of), which says the same. If you know for sure you can prove otherwise, go ahead and change it, I'm all for it :). KNewman 18:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC) About your edits of Avarian SiteВы пишите по-английски на аварской странице, что "Шамхальство Тарковское съыграло выдающуюся роль в разгроме Надиршаха в местности Андала". Во-первых,не "Андала", а "Андалал", а во-вторых вы всё перепутали. Кумыки (тюркоязычный народ в Дагестане) были не только покорены Надиршахом, но выступили даже в качестве его союзников. что же касается Казикумухцев (кавказоязычных лакцев), то они первоначально попытались сопротивляться Надиршаху, однако были разбиты.Шамхал Сурхайхан сдался в плен. Егьо сын-Муртазаали сумел бежать с небольшим отрядом. Аварские вольные общества вместе с самым крупным вольным обществом- Андалал ('Andalal четыре дня (под трёхдневным проливным дождём) бились с Надиршахом. Никакой помощи от лакского Муртазаали не было. Он явился со своей конницей лишь на четвёртый день, когда исход битвы был уже решён.--80.237.35.135 22:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC) Dear GhirlaDear Ghirla, I'm truly sorry to bother you at your talk page, but if you don't mind to give me just a little moment, I would like to talk with you for a minute. I swear, it won't take long. I wish to thank you for taking the time to take part in my RfA. The fact that one of the greatest contributors Misplaced Pages can boast of having has noticed it, is in itself a flattery to me, and this I tell you from the heart. I must tell you, tho, that your words have left me very concerned. You express that promoting new admins is a threat to hard working editors. I am worried that you, or anyone, may think of me as I threat to your evidently great work. I'm not sure if you're speaking on a general basis, or just about me; the fact that you said this solely at my RfA seems to indicate the latter, which is why I'm concerned. Have I done something you consider wrong, or acted inappropriately, or did something that may lead you to think I could abuse the tools? I'm simply asking you this in order to improve, since I don't want you to change your opinion in the least - I've said at my RfA, and many times, that one should express what our heart really tells us, and that means your !vote should stay as it is. I'm only asking you this because of the concern that being distrusted causes me. Dear Ghirla, I'm sorry to bother you, I truly am. I just wish to make sure that you know you have nothing to fear from me - in fact, the only time that I recall we've ever interacted was when I agreed with a point you expressed once. I hold you in the highest respect, and I'd be extremely happy to talk with you if you wish more information on the matter. Warm regards, and До свидания, Phaedriel ♥ The Wiki Soundtrack!♪ - 16:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Olgierd is polonized version of AlgirdasDear Girlandajo, I am lituanizing only Lithuanian names. Algirdas is one of them. Could you provide your arguments, why I am not rigth, stating, that Olgierd is polonised version of name Algirdas. Orionus 11:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC) Sorry, Ghirlandajo. At the moment I really do not have enough competence to dispute with you Olgierd/Algirdas problem. If you are right, my apologies are here . Children RailroadYes, this stub as it stands now is quite funny. According to this website, although some of the CR became derelict, a lot of them are still functioning and operated by children, including the one in Yaroslavl. Also, interwiki there is wrong and should point here, not to a CR in Minsk. OK, I'll try to fix the article, although I don't know, whether I'll have a time to expand it. Cmapm 18:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC) Image tagging for Image:Monomakhcap.jpgThanks for uploading Image:Monomakhcap.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Misplaced Pages's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well. For more information on using images, see the following pages: This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions. 11:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC) World War II controvercyDo you have time please to have a look on the World War II. There is some movement leading to Nazi apology end even saying Germany started the war some users call "bias against German people". Probably I need some support.--Nixer 09:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC) Battle of TarutinoHi. Thanx for the attention paid to my efforts. I was not able to find out the exact amount of Russian troops who participated in the battle. The original figure 22000 was a mistake and i deleted it. I found in От Тарутино до Малоярославца. К 190-летию Малоярославецкого сражения. / Сб. статей. – Калуга: «Золотая аллея», 2002 that the total amount in the Tarutino camp was 97000 but it does not mention how much did really participate in the assault. Probably you have better sources? Blacklake (Talk) 20:20 August 7 2006 (UTC) NavahradekYou should reconsider your wording, becase it's biased and not based on any facts (ureferenced, and cannot be refernced). it's not only Lithuanian historians who find first capital of GDL in Vilnius - but also, Polish, German, Belarusians. I'm preparing list of references. an dpleas, explain what does mean "traditionaly"?--Lokyz 07:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC) What's wrong with Gediminyds now? Asking for references is nationalistic trolling? Look to a WP:Style for a words to be avoided - it's obvious that "some sources" is not a proof neither reference, and merely an opinion. Any reference would help here. Also not mentioning hypothesis as a brother is neglecting research, and is also a POV.--Lokyz 11:11, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
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Novodevichy ConventHi, I noticed your two beautiful images of Novodevichy Convent. I have a less lovely picture, but one which is in the public domain. I was thinking I might replace one of the fair use pictures but thought you might have some feelings one way or the other (or even have a superb picture of your own!) InvictaHOG 02:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
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Stalin PrizeThere exist category "Nobel Prize winners" and even "Heroes of Socialist Labour" why do you oppose the category "Stalin Prize winners"?--Nixer 17:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC) Georgian-Abkhaz conflictPlease list me the phrases you feel wrong and I will deal with them. I do agree the article is biased. Unfortunately I have no knowledge here. `'mikka (t) 18:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC) Nikita Khrushchev's estimates on Winter WarI reverted your edit because 1,000,000 is sourced here. Search with Khrushchev and you'll come up with "According to Khrushchev, 1.5 million men were sent to Finland and one million of them were killed. 1000 aircraft, 2300 tanks and armored cars and an enormous amount of other war.." That's a very high and unrealistic estimate but if that's true that Krushchev said that then it should be like that. Show a source that shows 270,000? I was not able not find. --Pudeo 19:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Slavic dragonMany sources in Polish. But check out this: Is it enough? Lajsikonik 23:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC) Igor, father of Svyatoslav?Hi there, Ghirlandajo. You seem knowledgeable in the area, so I'll ask you if Igor was the father of Svyatoslav. If so, then there should be a clear statement of this in Svyatoslav's article. --Jugbo 17:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC) DYK
Thanks Ghirla. Tweaked the tagline a bit, hope it's ok. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 23:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC) DYK redux
And another. Thanks kindly for your work at DYK! -- Samir धर्म 06:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC) BorodinoThis was your reply On January 16, 2006 when I suggested that the result should read "Marginal French victory:" "It's OK with me but I would like to know what other editors think." In your last edit, you spoke about "consensus," but no such thing exists among the editors involved. There are basically two camps: those who want to label it "indecisive" and those who want something like "Pyrrhic victory." There's no consensus; don't try to suggest there is.UberCryxic 15:55, 14 August 2006 (UTC) DYK
Vyborg vs. ViipuriI returned Finnish name to Vyborg at the time when it was refered officially in Finnish (in a similar manner it is still referred in it's Swedish form of Vyborg's Swedish era. It is used in the similar way as in the article of Byzantium/Constatinopolis/Istanbul or Tsaritsyn/Stalingrad/Volgograd, where the historic names are used when explaining their periods. In fact, I'm not satisfied how the history is presented currently, it gives too much space to the last century, and highlights it against previous centuries. Also, after the Winter War, the town was incorporated to Karelo-Finnish SSR and it retained it's Finnish name. Only after the Continuation War was the town (with Priozersk) incorporated to Leningrad Oblast. (BTW, should we also stop talking about the Siege of Leningrad and talk about the Siege of Saint Petersburg instead?) And I truly like to see more text about current Vyborg. --Whiskey 13:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
How busy are you?I was just re-reading Palladian architecture this evening, it realy does need a brief section on Russian Palladianism, that picture dumped at the bottom of the page looks all wrong - please write just a few words for a section on the subject - if you don't - I will, and it will be all wrong, and then all you Russians will pile in on it - so in the long run it will be more simple for you to do it in the first instance.........please? .........nice begging pretty please? Giano | talk 19:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC) Orlov trotterThe Khrenovsky stud is situated near the town of Bobrov in Voronezh oblast', not near Novomoskovsk in Tula oblast'. See here. Also thanks for the image and for the two DYK nominations. Probably you can find some more images for this article? Blacklake (Talk) 11:38 August 16 2006
ochen harashoand thank you for the honor. You seem to be well in control of your material, I will defer to you any decisions. Regards, Haiduc 11:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC) Do we?. Do we really require links in other languages? Thanks. --Bhadani 13:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC) DYK
Coordinates TemplateHello, I propose that we use Template:coor title dm instead of Template:CoorHeader for geographic coordinates of cities and towns. The latter one requires seconds, which are useless to indicate for large objects like towns. The seconds are normally omitted, which results in a treble apostrophe with the latter template.
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Unreferenced templateI'm sorry about my edits. I will stick the template on the talk pages. Thanks for pointing this out to me. -- Underneath-it-All 17:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC) Image:Tiziano Vecelli.jpg listed for deletionAn image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Tiziano Vecelli.jpg, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Wwagner 22:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)GhirlaHi! Could you please support our request at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/Requests_for_new_languages (Belarusian - Orthography Revision of 1959). Thank you! -- 82.209.xx.xx 10:01, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Please take a look if you have timeThanks for standing up for the truth here: ] Apparantely this user does not desist and now claims Ossetic is not an Indo-European language! Please see Ossetic and its talk page. That is why I have complained against this user and ask you if you have time to also complain: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Barefact --Ali doostzadeh 01:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC) Crests of Vladimir, Yaroslav and others rulers of RusIf you dont belive that members of the Ruriks family, pat. Svyatoslav, Volodymer and Yaroslav, had been using "trident"-like symbols as personal crests on coins and seals, you should look through e-net pages (even russian pages http://russianchange.narod.ru/ or http://geraldika.ru/) about the early "heraldry" or Rus. The Rurikids used "trident" not because they were Ukrainian nationalists, but because it was their family symbol. Regards--133.41.4.47 13:01, 31 August 2006 (UTC) "Trydent" of Vladimir (Volodymer) and CoIf you dont belive that members of the Ruriks family, pat. Svyatoslav, Volodymer and Yaroslav, had been using "trident"-like symbols as personal crests on coins and seals, you should look through e-net pages (even russian pages http://russianchange.narod.ru/ or http://geraldika.ru/ or http://www.gerb.bel.ru/pages/russia/retro.htm) about the early "heraldry" or Rus. The Rurikids used "trident" not because they were Ukrainian nationalists, but because it was their family symbol. Regards--133.41.4.47 13:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC) Please take a lookAnother OR by the same user: http://en.wikipedia.org/Masguts --alidoostzadeh 09:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Welcome back!When you've unpacked, take a look at Château de Maisons, which is just a translation of French Misplaced Pages. --Wetman 07:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC) Thank you for welcomeThanks for the welcome note. Have actually been here for sometime, but only recently configuring this username. Nice to have your note! —Antonios Aigyptos 09:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC) On Andrea Del SartoJust a comment. On Andrea del Sarto you stated that wikipedia entries should not be "Critical assessment and legacy - WP is not image gallery; you can't list all of Sarto's paintings here)" . I disagree in part. I think an entry can list all of painters works or if not, in the future such an entry can be made into its own category. I would not want an entry to have all his images, but references to these is often a useful resource for someone to have. I thinks we need to set a balance here also, some modern artists have thousands of artworks, for them such as list would be impractical, but for most of the artists from the Renaissance, at most some of them have a hundred or so works worthy of recollection. I would vote for allowing such lists or if not, rather than deleting them, making them a linked category. Thanks. Re: your edit to VilniusBefore accusing anybody, first please investigate. Note the date when it was written. Renata 11:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC) Please tone it downHi, Cowman109 has alerted me to the following cases of gross incivility and what appear to be trolling or deliberately inflammatory comments: I hope you'll agree that we cannot improve Misplaced Pages by encouraging that kind of warfare and personal attacks. Please tone it down. --Tony Sidaway 15:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
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