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Not Israel

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/lieberman-refused-to-have-luggage-checked-at-south-korea-s-airport-1.419230 During his visit, Lieberman's also surprised his South Korean hosts when he said Israel is still considering purchasing South Korean training planes for the Israeli Air Force. "The option is still open," Lieberman told reporters in Seoul.

So you can see that Israel is NOT considering the T-50 anymore. Hcobb (talk) 21:00, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

T-50 comparison

I want to see a good empirical precedence for having no comparison lists for T-50 when they exist for all three of T-50's related aircraft, apparently even after considerable period of time since the supposed conclusion of the discussion pertaining to that. I was unlucky enough to have missed it. I'd appreciate it if someone could provide a link to that discussion here. Desagwan (talk) 16:07, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/General_Dynamics_F-16_Fighting_Falcon#See_also
http://en.wikipedia.org/AIDC_F-CK-1_Ching-kuo#See_also
http://en.wikipedia.org/Mitsubishi_F-2#See_also

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See the archived discussion there for the agreement to remove the list here. -Fnlayson (talk) 04:03, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Phil acquisition source

I post here actual article - link to article - it doesn't mention they signded deal or order planes, but i don't know if such "source" can be used in article, so i leave it in here so everyone knew current status of this purchase. --SojerPL (talk) 11:33, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Definitely not to be included for use, as it looks more like a procurement push by the PAF, which is a layman term for "Ongoing negotiations". The fact that "Phil officials said that they would like to have two of T/A-50s in country immediately to begin pilot training" is nothing short of telling the whole world that all their S-211s are now out of service and thus cannot be sortied, I also seriously don't think that the Koreans (or KAI for that matter) would specially rush off two aircraft from their assembly line to the PAF when they themselves have got a higher priority/commitment to the ROKAF and/or the TNI-AU since both are already confirmed deals with actual money being allocated to the procurement process. In short, what JDW's correspondent in Manila is getting are nothing but just "noises" from the local politicians, designed to coerce the Koreans in the ongoing negotiation. Note that I have removed the input pending more reports from the official Korean negotiation team, their press release will not lie. --Dave 16:32, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

The entry only said they selected the TA-50. The order part was previously removed by SojerPL. I readded the text in the Op history section and removed the 2 aircraft in 2012 part because of your point and other reasons. Jane's online article is shown in the linked image above if anyone is wondering. -Fnlayson (talk) 17:33, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I can see that the Koreans didn't lie after all. TBH, I'm not sure why these Pinay editors are so overzealous about the deal when both government are not even in the final negotiation process. Quoted from Crimson Tide: "A long time ago, when the Russians roll out their rockets, the Yanks learnt to not go to Defcon 2/3 until the Russians actually start to fuel their birds. Gentlemen, you don't unzip you fly unless you're ready to f***!" --Dave 01:12, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

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F-20 Tigershark lineage

The aircraft is not largely derived from the F-16, but rather from the F-20. The only design component in common with the F-16 is the wing. For anyone at all familiar with of the 70s and 80s, this design's origins in the F-20 are fairly obvious. Nearly the entire aircraft, from the engine inlets, the curve and geometry of the jet inlets, the tailplane, the landing gear, etc, is identical to the F-20. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.3.49.79 (talk) 11:58, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Yak-130 look-alike

The T-50 looks suspiciously like the Yak-130/Aermacchi M-346, down to the tiniest details Santamoly (talk) 06:24, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

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