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Problematic adds to list of Moors
Several of the people listed as "Moors" never identified (or were identified as such) during their own lives. Per wikipedia policy, we should not decide for them. I have removed Abd'l Rahman I (who identified himself as a member of the Umayyad dynasty from Syria; in other words, he was an Arab by self-proclamation) and the historian al-Qutiyya (who self-identified, as anyone with minimal knowledge would be aware from his name, as an Islamicized and Arabized _Goth_ ). Please stop doing OR and reverting to false identities. Duedemagistris (talk) 18:24, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- Cite policy, please. As far as I know the policies surrounding self-identification come into play on BLP, not articles about long-dead historical figures. Pinkbeast (talk) 01:47, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
I just want to add I don't care about your new message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.32.138 (talk) 09:55, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
Change in the lede
I removed the discussion of Sicily in the introduction as the sole reference given directly contradicts the text; the hyperlink does _not_ refer to Moors but to Arabs conquering Sicily. (The same problem exists elsewhere in this article; people explicitly identified as Arabs are, in the article, given as Moors; probably the entire Sicily section should be removed without proper citations).Duedemagistris (talk) 20:25, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
Usual interminable discussion as to whether the Moors were black
Pinkbeast (talk) 02:11, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
the real truth wiki does not want to show about the Moors being black! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmZm4PRhfNg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.32.138 (talk) 14:59, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- So this afrocentrist youtube channel is your reference ? --Aṭlas (talk) 17:17, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
your eurocentric and eurocentric shalors have has caused more harm to black people. Eurcentics have lied more often in the past let me know when you want exmples. I would like for you answer why you have removed my links. Also, why did you remove other people comments on the matter? What gives you the right to remove what they have said the only thing you're proving that your racist and bias,It was the white that goes around and says that black people have no history. In america they have killed black based on skin color how much more history— Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.32.138 (talk) 13:03, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Eurocentrism — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.32.138 (talk) 13:31, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
- So where is your references for this Black moors ? --Aṭlas (talk) 19:27, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
- Please don't ask, we get walls of text from fringe sites, etc. Doug Weller talk 19:33, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
So why did you remove my comments a links? why did you remove my youtube link with a what as your reasoning
Why did you remove my links/ I thought you were an educated scholar? I wonder did you look at the those links? One link is from google it self. Yea the moorish coats of arms with so many black people heads why is that? why did you remove my link with a catholic priest talking about saint benedict the moor who was black?
- I didn't. I moved them under their own subheading on this talk page because they were not pertinent to the heading you put them under. Earlier discussion has been removed by ClueBot, a bot that removes discussion when it seems to have come to an end. It does so without regard to the content. Pinkbeast (talk) 16:47, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
I have added tons of links on the subject of Moors here and I have asked questions you so called scholars failed to answer. But you're too racist to under stand that. There are links I would have loved to posted here could fill this entire page sources why because of this subject I research a lot and don't get paid for it. White people and Arabs who have destoryed black people lives and history with the muslim slave trade and transatantic slave want to me and afro-centric? White people and Arabs have a history of black racism. To back up my comment I will add these links here as proof to back up what I say is true and your have no credibility with your comments towards me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Bz9Cl4zgI&t=0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vhx5OHfekk&t=0s
The famous Arab philosopher Ibn Khaldun, expressed racist attitudes toward black Africans: “The only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and their proximity to the animal stage,” Khaldun wrote. Another Arab writer, of the 14th Century, asked: “Is there anything more vile than black slaves, of less good and more evil than they?”
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/06/201362472519107286.html
Doctor John clerk about how white people told black people we have no history! White people who invented the lie called the bell curve so they can kill and blame black people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DPr0JRn0KQ
Just to prove That I could fill this page about Moors I want to add this link here where I have filled the youtube comment proving how black the moors were. At Christmas time when you're with your family I am busy researching and learning about the Moors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Xnc8ijkrA&list=PLqIKEFH3xg-5wdq9X2awaeSUXNHqtO9dE&index=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.32.138 (talk) 14:59, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Is that all you could do ? youtube links ? afrocentrist youtube channels ? You've disappointed me.--Aṭlas (talk) 16:25, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
more proof of Arab racism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkXnXlorY9k — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.32.138 (talk) 15:36, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
First, your previous posts were not removed; they were archived (see links at the top of this page). Second, rather than fill the page with links that are not of use here, please review the policy on reliable sources. YouTube videos, editorials, and "google itself" do not qualify. It would also help if you would learn to sign your posts (add four '~' marks after your comments) so that we can tell when one comment ends and another starts. You could also make a coherent argument, rather than simply railing at people for being racist for not watching the videos you link and crafting the argument for you. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 16:42, 30 October 2016 (UTC)