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Can someone please translate German version into English? We've got a much better article there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cyberodin (talkcontribs) 06:56, 11 January 2006 (UTC)).

Bordered version of the Ukrainian flag

Hello! Andrwsc. Can your page put a border around the flag of Ukraine. This is important because of clarity reasons and finally i would verify that it would be fine with a border around this flag

SndrAndrss 19:19 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Colors of the Flag of the Ukraine

The current version of this page alludes to the domain vexilla-mundi.com for the color chart shown. It does not however indicate which page on that domain was intended.

This page on that same domain apparently disagrees with the color chart on the wikipedia page.

--Shewmaker (talk) 18:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Colors provided by the state standard ДСТУ 4512:2006. Somebody did see this document? Please get the link. There is , but I do not understand fine humour of standard-committee outside whole document context.--W.M.drossel (talk) 11:14, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Colors of the rainbow

This article incorrectly states that in English "culture" there are only six colors of the rainbow. There are seven, as I was taught (and as anyone who knows Roy G. Biv can attest): red, orange, yellow, green, blue, INDIGO, violet.~lubap

Similar flags

Maybe it's an idea to create a new section for flags derived from/based on the flag of Ukraine (such as this one added by Aleksandr Grigoryev) and restrict the "Similar flags" section to flags that are similar but unrelated to the Ukrainian bicolor? SiBr4 ("CyberFour") (talk) 18:45, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Yellow vs blue

This article describes how in the original flag yellow on top represents the sun and blue on the bottom represents water. Then the flag was flipped upside down in 1918 and why the country is doomed under this flag. There's an effort to flip the flag to its original version with yellow on top. USchick (talk) 07:04, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Ukrainian flag`s history: anoother version:

Its colours come from Upper Silesia (Oppeln/Opole). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.115.153.240 (talk) 13:05, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

This probably goes against what the section above was talking about though. Second Skin (talk) 12:06, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Some issues

This article has a large number of flags and also other illustrations that are putting a stress on the presentation, especially if opened in narrow windows. The illustrations at the top of the "History" section and the illustration at the start of "Military flags" create huge areas of whitespace when the window is not wide enough to allow room for the fixed width array of flags. Could someone with knowledge of WP layout please look at this?

The article is about the current blue/yellow flag of Ukraine. It is, of course, pertinent to place the current flag in an appropriate context, both historically and thematically, but the article seems to have swollen into a list of all possible and impossible flags that have some connection to Ukraine. This article is not and should not be a List of Ukrainian flags. Such a list already exists.

I have removed the flag at the bottom of the history section. It is the same flag that is presented in the array in the "Soviet Ukraine" section, and there is nothing in the text that explains why that illustration is relevant here. I guess that the point is that the blue/yellow flag was not formally adopted until January 1992, so the Soviet Ukraine flag was de jure still the official flag. That is a legalistic point that just might be discussed in the separate article that exists about the Flag of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (but only if there exists any sourced evidence that the flag actually was used for any purpose). In this article it is not relevant.

I would also suggest that the whole section of "Similar flags" is completely unnecessary. Similarity is very subjective, and the section has little or no encyclopedic value. I have not removed the section, but I have removed the parts that are most useless:

  • The flags similar to the Ukrainian SSR flag has no relevance here. They are not similar to the flag in the article. If they belong somewhere, it has to be in that article, not here.
  • The flags similar to the Insurgent Army flag have even less relevance. They are not related to the flag of the article at all, but are something like third cousins twice removed. --T*U (talk) 19:34, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
@T*U: Agreed. The also whitespace issue affects various screen resolutions... and the 'similar' flags seems to be the by-product of editors getting too enthusiastic and digging up anything that they think resembles any variant of a flag at any given time in history (therefore is WP:OR). My understanding is that it is a flow-on effect as occurred with ethnicity article galleries of notables: once someone has the idea on one article, others follow suit using the 'but most articles about X subject have Y and Z sections'. I haven't done a thorough follow up, but the Flag of Russia article also has a 'similar flags' section.
I'm able to tweak the presentation, but there's no point in doing so until we've reached a consensus over what is not appropriate content for the article (which probably accounts for half the article at this point in time). --Iryna Harpy (talk) 21:17, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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