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Notification of topic ban

I'm writing to notify you that the community has placed the following restriction on you as a result of this thread at the Administrators' Incidents Noticeboard:

LesVegas is indefinitely topic banned from all pages related to Acupuncture, broadly construed.

You may appeal your ban to the community at WP:AN, pursuant to the ban appeal policy. Please carefully review WP:TBAN and ask me if you have any questions about your restriction. ~ Rob₁₃ 11:50, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Before you go to the trouble of creating an ArbCom case about the block of an acupuncture-related editor: your topic ban prevents you from getting involved in a block that JzG (and later Bishonen) made on a editor due to their edits at Acupuncture. Now that the SPI is closed and no one is claiming the editor is you, your topic ban applies. There are 48,472,223 other people on this site, leave it to one of them to decide if an ArbCom case is needed. Please find a different area to participate in. Continuing in this vein will get you blocked for violating your restriction. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:04, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
- As noted by Floquenbeam above, your participation in that thread, which continued in this diff after the above warning, is a violation of your topic ban. This is a final warning. Continued engagement with other editors relating to acupuncture (broadly) will result in a block. ~ Rob₁₃ 09:20, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

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Violation of your TBAN

In my view this is a violation of your TBAN. You were already strongly warned not to engage in discussion even about your TBAN here and here; stirring the pot and discussing your TBAN at the Talk page of an editor who said they came here in response to the change.org petition about the acupuncture article is stepping way over the line. Pinging User: Floquenbeam who warned you and User:BU Rob13 you implemented the TBAN. Jytdog (talk) 04:55, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Indeed, that's a violation of your topic ban. Since you've received two final warnings now, I've blocked you for a short period of time. Upon your return, please remove yourself entirely from this topic area. ~ Rob₁₃ 11:41, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

This is ridiculous. I never once mentioned the topic, and was careful to craft my language to not bring it up. I simply saw that a new editor was being ganged up on, and I'm trying to teach him how Misplaced Pages works. Am I not allowed to teach newbies how to edit in general? LesVegas (talk) 14:03, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

And where did I receive final warnings? I was warned not to pursue an ArbCom against Guy after he abused his tools when he banned this editor while clearly involved. It's frankly absurd that I couldn't pursue such an egregious violation. Afterall, my entire point was that other admins were covering up Guy's mess, and it would take someone outside of the good 'of boys network to pursue it. LesVegas (talk) 14:31, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

January 2017

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 60 hours for violating your topic ban related to acupuncture, broadly construed. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. ~ Rob₁₃ 11:41, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

I welcomed a new editor and warned him/her not to make the mistakes so many here have, when it was clear to me he/she was just new, was already being ganged up on, and didn't know what was going on. I clearly implied that I couldn't talk about Acupuncture, but that I could only offer general editing advice. If it is deemed that this block was fair, I have no problem with that, but I would love to know the specific wording I used that was problematic. Am I not allowed to even mention to other editors that I've been T-banned? That seems to be the implication, and that certainly seems absurd. I've only recently been T-Banned so I'd like to know what not to say going forward. LesVegas (talk) 15:09, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Pretty clear violation of your TBAN. In my opinion as an uninvolved administrator, this edit contains extensive references to your TBAN. Now, I'm not necessarily saying I agree with preventing someone from discussing a particular ban. In my opinion, it might be appropriate to allow you to discuss it solely here on your talk page, or provide you a way of objecting to it. It's not clear to me whether or not that's allowed. But bringing it up in a welcome message on a new user's talk page? What were you thinking? What good could come of that? Given the block is for 60 hours, I decline to unblock you. Yamla (talk) 15:23, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

@Yamla: Just FYI, they can appeal at WP:AN once enough time passes for them to be permitted to do so. I didn't see this appeal, but the block was largely based on the seeking out of an editor new to the topic area they've been banned from to welcome them and provide this area-specific warning. Discussing their ban is certainly part of the violation, but I find the clear intent to communicate with editors related to the topic area about the topic area itself to be more significant. ~ Rob₁₃ 16:01, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

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