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Archives

/November-December-January 2006 How to edit, templates editing, blue boxes, Acura RL a full-size car? /February 2006 Luxury Car defenition debate between Samstayton and myself as well as other issues that were disussed such as copyright problems with certain images. /March 2006 Luxury Car debate between Zouf, Samstayton and myself, Lincoln MKX MKS discussion. /April/May 2006 Images, Take Me Higher Request for comment, infoboxes, Palm Desert, and other various questions.

Archives

• /November-December-January 2006 How to edit, templates editing, blue boxes, Acura RL a full-size car?
• /February 2006 Luxury Car defenition debate between Samstayton and myself as well as other issues that were disussed such as copyright problems with certain images.
• /March 2006 Luxury Car debate between Zouf, Samstayton and myself, Lincoln MKX MKS discussion, Prestige/Flagship vehicles.
• /April/May 2006 Images, Take Me Higher Request for comment, infoboxes, Palm Desert, and other various questions.
• /May/June/July 2006 Upper middle class, minor editing issues and reverting the edits of vandals.

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I've been editing as an unregistered user for a long time. I've made improvements to hundreds of articles, corrected spelling and grammatical errors, and challanged POV for almost 2 years. I've never had any urge to register officially until I noticed your page, and your contributes. I then realised that I would like a record of what I've done, and perhaps a snappy, efficient user page like yours. I'm not 100% proficient in how to use this site, or it's opportunites, and think I might benefit from someone more experienced than I. Would consider helping me make a signature, and maybe even a small, non-complex user page? I've researched your contributes, and would be honored if you would assist me in becoming a more substantial contributor to this site. If not, or if you don't have time, I completely understand! I have a lack of time myself, thats probably why I've never registered. Just a thought I guess... Regards, smooth_operator, September 8

Signature

This is my new Signature! Signature 06:46, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I like it! I do have a question about how you managed to post this nice signature each time you sign. Surely you don't write all of the code out each time? Nhprman 07:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

And of course, I just did three seconds of research and discovered on my own that the "nickname" line in My Preferences does this just fine. Thanks! I'll be working on a nicer one, like yours. User:Nhprman 07:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad you like my new signature. Thanks. Signature 07:35, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Lincoln Town Car

You are plainly a major Town Car fan! The number of edits you have put into the article is phenomenal. Your infoboxes are particularly good. Thanks for all your efforts. RivGuySC 03:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I sure am a Town Car fan. Thank you, I really apreciate it! Signature 04:36, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Brendel, I am simply overwhelmed by the barnstar that you awarded to me. Thanks so very, very much! Stu

Another Thanks!

For another barnstar! My first one.  :-) RivGuySC 04:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

From bok269

Thank you, I didn't know which page to do that on. Bok269 15:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Rücklichter

Thanks for the heads-up. The relevant section in the consolidated Automotive lighting article was woefully deficient, wasn't it! I have transferred the relevant info from your stub, together with regulatory information, into a newly-expanded section in the main article, and redirected Taillight and Taillamp thereto. I did not copy in your info on combined functions or the red/amber rear turn signal issue, because those are already extensively covered in the main article. Scheinwerfermann 22:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi

I am writing to inform you, and many others, that an AfD in which you voted delete, List of automobiles that were commercial failures, was already unsucessfully nominated a short time ago, but under a different title. This was not noted in the nomination. Please read the opposing arguments here, and reconsider your vote, because it is important that the opinions of previous voters be considered. Thanks! AdamBiswanger1 23:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you I am aware of the perceeding AfD-as you can see I did not vote but rather requested comment in regards to the article being OR and POV. Thank you for notifying me though! Best Regards, Signature 23:50, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

		Apple Pie Award
		Gerd, I would like to award you this Apple Pie for your tireless creating, expanding, enhancing, illustrating and digging out references for an massive number of important articles pertaining to the Unisted States of America. Bravada 12:32, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

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This isn't a very good image and I only upoloaded it for temporary use until something better poped-up. So you can go ahead and delete it. Signature 20:18, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

removal of POV

he has not done anything to remove POV from german cars like S-class and BMW, but runs down articles on LS, IS, ES with virulant deception. His hidden agenda is to show japanese articles in quite ordinary/poor light. Well established facts such as the engineering solidity, refinement and technological advancement of lexus has been termed as POV and immediately deleted by him. His relentless attack shows the deception, fraud, trickery and the cunning with which he is active on wikipedia. Samstayton 23:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

If you have a problem with any of the articles on German cars, why don't you just go and correct it? Wait, why am I answering a vandal on somebody else's talk page? Egal... Bravada, talk - 23:22, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I was kind of thinking the same thing. (I mean the why doesn't he go to German cars and remove the POV himself, I myself have responded to all sorts of comments on other people's talk pages ;-)) What I can't figure out is why Sam is addressing me in the third person-I guess I'm royalty-oh, well... Signature 23:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, could you revert Sam's last revert? I would be running into 3RR, Sam actually already did, but I don't know whether he was aware of that, so I placed a warning message on his talk page. You are still safe, so you can revert it. If he continues to do the revert thing, we are now clear to submit a 3RR complaint, as he is now aware of the rule. Thx, Bravada, talk - 01:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi! I just wanted to say that perhaps I was overly sensitive concerning the Luxury Cars Task Force. Indeed, if the task force would consist of people intending to cut down on POV, it could do very much valuable work cleaning up and developing articles and setting standards pertaining to this type of cars. The hidden agenda behind those Task Forces is to finally get people to review all the articles we have and concentrate efforts - sometimes, there is something really large to do, like a bunch of articles interconnected, and if everybody's just doing thier stuff, this can never be finished. So, I proposed a scheme that I hoped would catch all articles we have, or at least the majority (funny how nobody complained yet that Saab and Volvo were left out). A Luxury Cars Task Force has one flaw - the borders of this project would be pretty fluid, and also if the divide went that way, it might be hard to find people for, e.g. Small Family Car Task Force...

I am getting tired and rumble without sense - what I mean is go on and propose the TF if you have a good idea for outlining the scope. What we need now is to get ANY Task Force up and running to show how it may work, we'll worry later about overlapping scopes and blank areas.

Now something more important - the Design and Marketing Task Force. This goes quite against my original idea, as you can't actually assign a specific group of articles to it, or rather all articles would fall under it! Moreover, the issues you mentioned are actually one of the basics when editing any article, if I understand you correctly, so more or less we are all in this TF anyway (esp. given that it encompasses ALL our articles). Perhaps you just wanted to propose some more specific standards and conventions, so why not do that outright without a "Task Force"? We need to work on standards and conventions anyway, I am just too tired to do a good write-up on that at the moment?

Bottom line - please rethink this Task Force.

Regards, Bravada, talk - 19:29, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, now I see the lexical problem... I used the name Task Forces aping the other WikiProject, but actually those are "Interest Groups" and tasks are something quite different - ALL TFs should have adding info on design/marketing and removing POV as their tasks. I think we need to work general guidelines for auto articles (perhaps bei Gelegenheit of developing the Assessment Scheme) that would include all that info. Would you be willing to try to start compiling them? Bravada, talk - 20:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, well du'h. Yes, those should be taks of any TF-sorry about that, I get it now. I think working "bei Gelegenheit" is perhaps the best way-let's see how thinks come along. Start compelling-well I'm still trying to compell people to review some of my articles and put their disucssions in the right place on the US project- a lot of things at one time-so I'll see what I can do. Signature 20:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

LS Template?

Yo G. I noticed you have a User template for Lincoln Town Car. I'm guessing you probably made it yourself. Well, I happen to be a very enthusiatic Lincoln LS V8 owner, loaded and in "Vivid Red" (sometimes I get to drive a loaner Town Car while my LS is getting serviced). Anyway just wondering if maybe you thought about making similar User templates for the rest of us Lincoln owners, or perhaps you already did? We gotta take a stand for our red-blooded American Luxury cars. Yes I know you are German, but we can overlook that ... --T-dot 23:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I can make such a template-how about you send me a picture of your LS. Signature 00:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Someone deleted it after a couple of days. Bummer. --T-dot 15:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Why thank you - I'll polish it up and get to work on that. I will have to make it a really good one though, after all the grief I have been giving to other users, who went around systematically replacing the well composed "fair use" professional photographs provided by automakers, with really crappy, sub-amateurish, poorly lit, badly composed, fuzzy, and horribly exposed pics of some car they saw in a supermarket parking lot with distracting backgrounds, and shadows (or even reflections) of themselves and other nearby objects falling on the car. I'll let you know when I have something, and if it is high enough quality, you can decide if it is worthy of further use on the Misplaced Pages. I kind of wish we could adopt a policy where other amateur photographers would post a number of their automobile photographs in a sandbox area, and allow the rest of us to critique them and decide which ones are worthy of posting in articles. Some folks just "bull doze" their photos in, without discussion, and they are just horrible examples from any sort of critical photographic quality perspective - but they serve as terrific examples of how to make a really bad photographs, from Photography 101 class. There I go, rambling again. --T-dot 13:22, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

True a sandbox would be a good idea. But consider we still don't really have a "good" photo af an LS-the best one is again in a parking lot and the other is from the side. I think what a lot of users forget is that the background is just about as important as the car. Regards, Signature 16:42, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Lexus LS vs. Sam

Gerd, Sam's on the rampage again - I will revert him until I can, but I am afraid sb will have to take over at one point. I hope you will be able to. In case of his persistence, do report him to 3RR - perhaps that will teach him something. Regards, Bravada, talk - 00:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Oy, and that on my vacation ;-)-okay I'm here now and I'll check back later-on the fourth I'll file the report. Cheers. Signature 00:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the bother, I've seen you can't keep away from the net anyway, so I thought I'll just let you know so that you could have some guilty fun midway between the swimming pool and the restaurant :D Frohe Ferien again :D Bravada, talk - 00:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

So true! Signature 01:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow! Went faster than I thought it would be, thanks! I have no idea what Sam was thinking, he was clearly aware what he is in for... Anyway, have a great vacation while I am going to have some good sleep :D Auf Wiederlesen Bravada, talk - 01:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Gute Nacht-Ich schaue ja eh immer einmal am Tag nach was hier alles ab geht ;-) Signature 01:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Italy

It's getting monotonous. Considering it's the same person again and again. In one archive of Talk:Major power and many archives of Talk:Superpower, where the great/major powers were originally listed: Italy was never even discussed. Now all of a sudden new users with ONE CONTRIBUTION are telling us we are making Misplaced Pages worse. These users are obviously not new. Nobleeagle (Talk) 08:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I think you two shoudl really get together sometime in real life. Seriously. JJx2 08:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Why is it that whenever we have these include-Italy debates, the protagonists in the add-Italy group are unable to keep civil? Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:21, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

So bringing up India means we all have become uncivil? Pointing out you two collude on this page is uncivil? Interesting. JJx2 09:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Illegal_US

Template:Illegal_US has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Klaser 22:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Danger

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WikiProject United States

Hey man. Check out the changes on Misplaced Pages:WikiProject United States! You think we need more people? I do. How about a newsletter and some announcements at the Regional Notice boards and Community Bullitin board? Everybody else is doing it. Maybe we could have a membership drive. I added the "Special projects" section to beef things up a bit. Please follow suit. Don't leave me hangin' here, bro. Let's Work together! E Pluribus Unum! Thanks! CQ 18:10, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'm still on vacation and despite my Wiki addiction am able to take a semi-WP break while on vacation. Anyways, I'll return next week in "Full-force" and will dedicate more attention to the US project. A newsletter is an excellent idea! Regards, Signature 01:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:DSC04569.JPG listed for deletion

The image is no longer needed, so you can go ahead and delete it. Regards, Signature 01:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Great power article - be on guard against poor sources

Hello there. We've cut quite a bit of material from the Great power page this weekend. We've also managed to source quite a bit of the history of the term. There's still a lot of work to do, but I think that the page is finally on the way up. (I've found http://www.press.umich.edu/pdf/0472112872-ch2.pdf especially useful - some proper academic work on the subject, for once!).

I'm just giving you a quick heads-up to watch out for attempts to introduce countries/propositions into the article, citing spurious or unreliable sources as justification. At the moment we have claims that Poland, Netherlands, Sweden, and the Ottaman empire should be included (claims which may have valididy, or not) - but the sourcing provided as justification is pretty poor. In such circumstances we ought to have no hesitation in taking the country off the page until it is supported by a proper source, no matter what our view of its power/status. If we are to continue the good work on the article, reliable sourcing ought to be our top priority.

I've been trying to police this over the past day or two, but the more of us that get involved, the better. It makes it much harder for the issue to get clouded in accusations and personal attacks against individuals if we are all acting in unison.

Best wishes, Xdamr 02:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Good work on the Super Power article. Sorry that I sounded POV in my wording, I'm only human and sometimes get soo tired about this US/EU super power controversy. I'll watch my wording more carefully. And personally,I believe if you take away all the political mumbo-jumbo, and just leave the economics, military power, population, land area, and control of resources...there is really no reason to say the EU isn't currently a super power. All thats really needed is a Foreign Policy that everyone agrees on (which will hopefully come soon)! Regards! smooth_operator september 7

No problem, we all have some of our POV show inadvertanly at some point or another. Thank you for telling me that you didn't mean to sound POV, I am personally a bit weary after so much deabte of people trying to push their POV, but its good to know that you're not one of them and that you edit in good faith. As for the EU's status I think we see I to eye on that. Happy editing! Regards, Signature 03:46, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Image:00LTC.jpg listed for deletion

You may delete this picture as it is no longer needed. Regards, Signature 01:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

US talk page

That phrase, as it stands, is complete nonsense. Joelito (talk) 01:37, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay that statisfies my curiosity, at least to some extend ;-) Signature 01:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Redirects to sections

... don't work. You set up a few articles, like Working class majority as #REDIRECT American middle class#Working class majority. Just thought I'd let you know that if you click on the Working class majority link, you'll find it redirects you to the American middle class article, but at the top. Links within articles can direct you to a section, but the Wiki developers have never gotten the redirect to work that way. Just FYI. Fan-1967 00:36, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you I did not know that. One question though. On my computer I tested the links and they worker. How come? Thanks for the heads up! Signature 00:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

If you're on the redirect page, and click on the link, it works, because that's acting like a link on a page. But if you click on a link to the redirect page from somewhere else, it will only redirect you to the top. Fan-1967 00:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I see. Thanks, Signature 00:45, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

From what I've seen a few places, the Wiki developers always intended for it to work, but it never has, and it's a low-priority item. Fan-1967 00:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Prestige Vehicles Ven diagram

Please update the diagram to reflect Acura as being a luxury marque. Come 2007 they are discontinuing their RSX line and introducing the RDX, making their mean MSRP above $36K.

Hmmm... thanks for the update. I'll check the web-site and make the corresponding change soon. Regards, Signature 03:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

American Upper Class

i've never started an article before, but American Upper Class does need to be created. could you perhaps help? Colorfulharp233 19:43, 15 September 2006 (UTC) or Harpiegirl6 19:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC), i have two.

Thanks!

Howdy, Brendel. Just wanted to say danke for this edit. When I was reworking the Demographics section, I didn't mean to change it in that silly way. Good thing you caught my mistake. :-) — President Lethe 04:24, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

here you go, hypocrite

Please stop attacking other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people.