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Mackensenarchiv

Spammers: I would like for this page to stay reasonably clean. If you have business with me, feel free to leave a comment, else please move on. Please ignore the gigantic eye in the corner with the pump-action shotgun.

Unsigned messages will be ignored. You can sign your messages with four tildes (~~~~). I reserve the right to disruptively eliminate gigantic blobs of wiki-markup from signatures on a whim if I think they're cluttering up my talk page.

Publicgirluk

I was working on an analysis of the edits/IPs. There might be a basis for comparing publicgirl and courtney akins but as for the rest, I can't see what Jimbo is getting at. Thatcher131 (talk) 02:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the analysis; glad I'm not the only one slightly puzzled. Mackensen (talk) 02:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Admin RfC about Dmcdevit and Blnguyen

Hi Mackensen. about your post here - Actually I was also named for a block I did on both parties at Ukrainization three days ago, although I didn't receive complaints about it before the RfC was posted, so it seems a bit malformed. In my case I did count four reverts and nothing else. Anyway, to finish on an idle note, I'm surprised at the relatively small size of your archives given your RFCU and ARBCOM work. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 04:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I wasn't on arbcom long enough to attract a fan club. Regarding checkuser--the fan club often isn't in a position to respond after the fact! Best, Mackensen (talk) 04:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Please visit Wkipedia:WikiProject Baronetcies - Baronetcy project 17:42, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Rejected

Please explain more about the notice Rejected on the RFCU/Jlambert. Doctor Octagon 04:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the welcome message DarkTripe 19:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Baronetcies

Please visit Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Baronetcies - Baronetcy project 17:42, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Role accounts

Just a heads up for you, Mackensen. What you didn't know about TheM62Manchester (talk · contribs) is that it was really a role account used by several people - not one user as some may have believed. However, be on the look out for more inappropriate role accounts... --Langwath 09:21, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Edipedia

Thanks for confirming his sockpuppetry. He has been a very disruptive editor. Does this mean his account and his sockpuppets will be permanently banned now? --- Hong Qi Gong 17:27, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

That's up to the community. I recommend bringing the matter to the administrators' noticeboard. It appears that the socks are already blocked. Mackensen (talk) 17:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, yes, you're right. There were no "indefinite block" tags on the userpages and I didn't notice the blocks until I checked the logs. --- Hong Qi Gong 17:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of Misplaced Pages:Numbers need citations

Hi there. I was recently participating in a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Numbers need citations, and was surprised to find the page deleted. I investigated further and discovered that this was due to "g5" of the speedy deletion criteria (created by a sock puppet of a banned user). I'm bringing this to your attention because you seem to have carried out the CheckUser check that led to this: WP:RFCU#Dr_Chatterjee. I've had this happen at least once before (have a talk page suddenly disappear on me), and that time I managed to save the page and debate (if I remember the example, I will provide a link). In this case, I wanted to somehow save the debate that had been taking place on the talk page of this proposed guideline - with a view to adding something of the sort to WP:CITE or a related page. There were some useful comments on that talk page. I'd appreciate any advice on how best to handle this. I've also copied this to User_talk:NawlinWiki (the deleting admin). Thanks. Carcharoth 06:18, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

This is really up to the deleting admin; I simply ran the check that proved Chatterjee was socking (and a vandal, as it turned out). Mackensen (talk) 10:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. I'll take it up with the deleting admin. I had a look over that WP:RFCU page, and I'm impressed by the way things are handled there. A sheen of civility for what must be rather uncivil things in some cases. Carcharoth 11:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Just in case you were curious, I found the other case I was thinking of. The whole sorry mess can be seen here. The case in question here is the second case I've seen of proposals with active talk pages being deleted (or proposed for deletion) based on G5. I strongly believe that the correct process should be to in some way modify or reject the proposal, rather than delete good-faith GFDL contributions to the discussion, even if started by a sockpuppet/troll/vandal/banned user. Also, I would prefer to see what is often a grain of truth extracted from such proposals, rather than a heavy-handed "speedy delete" response. I'd appreciate any opinions. Carcharoth 12:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Wondering if you could...

Use your oversight powers to delete my user page history? There is sensitive personal information on there that I would like removed. Everything up to the most recent edit? Magic Window 14:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

-Inanna-

Hey Mackensen. Just wanted to let you know that Inanna has become pretty active lately, her sockpuppet Kachik was recently blocked, but since then she's edited as 85.102.104.205 (talk · contribs), 85.107.214.53 (talk · contribs), and KreshnikD (talk · contribs) (not blocked yet). What's weird is that Inanna lived in İstanbul and Ankara, but these IPs are located in İzmir. The behavior is still the same, however, and note here how the anon basically reverted to Kachik's version of the page. Anyways, please let me know what you think should be done about all this. Thanks. —Khoikhoi 01:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Per arbcom precedent, if it looks like -Inanna-, edits like -Inanna-, and that behavior got -Inanna- banned, block away. No rule that editors have to live in the same place. Mackensen (talk) 01:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I guess I'll just wait for KreshnikD to make more edits then... —Khoikhoi 01:40, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

CU case withdrawn, delete or archive

I withdrew and closed Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Terryeo after he admitted the edits on has talk page. Since the case was never officially checked, and only checks Terry against his IP, archiving it will essentially preserve a public record of his IP address. On the other hand, it was a case of Arbcom block evasion. I'm going to leave this one in your lap to delete (if it should be deleted) or archived. Cheers :) Thatcher131 (talk) 20:23, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Lovely ;) Unless Arbcom cares, my inclination is to simply delete it. They can always check the revisions if need be. Mackensen (talk) 20:46, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

AN/I comment

Yes, my comment was directed at the original poster, not you, I blame a poor choice of indentation on my part followed by three edit conflicts in a row. Demiurge 23:52, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah, no worries. Feel free to strike my comment. Mackensen (talk) 23:53, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Stronger RfCU icon

I see you got your "stronger icon" for rejecting checkuser requests. :) I wonder how many users will pick up the subtle difference between "declined" and "rejected." Regards, Newyorkbrad 20:40, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Puppet

I have two question: why User:Alphachimp gave me on side this stencil as well as whose then glove puppet - User:Malfunction. LUCPOL 18:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

It's in response to this: Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/LUCPOL. Mackensen (talk) 18:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I have three question:

Why User:Alphachimp gave me on side this stencil . I ask about removal from my side this stencil.
Whose then glove puppet (what user to use from the same IP) - User:Malfunction.
If this my glove puppets I, ask to explain me this: LUCPOL and IP is blocked (24h) 13:41 06.09.2006, John Amber editions 14:01 06.09.2006 and 14:02 06.09.2006. Hans Schwars editions 13:46 06.09.2006.

LUCPOL 18:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I can't discuss specifics owing to Foundation policy. The most likely technical explanation is that the block allowed other established users to edit. An oversight on the blocking admin's part. Mackensen (talk) 18:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

OK. One question: It why my edition was withdrawn was . Where it in regulations writes (and how so this how much time) that we should have this stencil. Link will suffice to pass to point where this writes. If there is no this in regulations ask to make possible this me removal from side stencil. LUCPOL 19:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:SOCK is a good starting place. Mackensen (talk) 19:08, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

When this stencil be becomes taken off ( this is not life imprisonment yet). I ask about concrete date and hour. LUCPOL 19:14, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Probably when the edit-warring dies down. I've no control over that whatsoever. Mackensen (talk) 19:15, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

OK. Editorial war in article Limp Bizkit and Fred Durst was finished (Lucpol, Egr and different came to agreement). "Genre" be become removed with articles. It will not be editorial wars already rather. Have hope, that in draught you 1-3 days will remove me this stencil. PS. I think it that was it been possible already to unlock article Limp Bizkit. How you would write to me what dust message this boldly. LUCPOL 19:23, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

New templates

Would it be useful to have checkuser result templates that did this?

User:Thatcher131/Confirmed-nc

User:Thatcher131/Crystalball

I made crystall ball as a joke for Essjay after a particularly obnoxious request and thought it was too flip and informal for official use, but since you've now got {{thrown out}} maybe you'd like another option. If you like them I'll move them from user space to template space. Thatcher131 (talk) 21:07, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, those would both be useful. Thanks much, Mackensen (talk) 23:06, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, you can user {{Crystalball}} and {{Confirmed-nc}} (for "no comment"). Thatcher131 (talk) 02:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Cute 1 4 u

What in gods name can we do about this 11 year old? She uses a dynamic IP, and the only way we can find out who she is now is by watching a talk page. Ryūlóng 21:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Call her parents, obviously ;). Well, we can try a targeted range block, but those can be tricky business. If it keeps up I'll try to figure something out. Mackensen (talk) 23:08, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

CBD - response to queries (eom)

Aiming WP:UFD at Requests for Arbtitration

Just looking for unusual shortcut redirects, I found this one: WP:UFD (aiming at Requests for Arbitration). It seems to have been a past redirect to Userboxes for Discussion (now itself a redir to TfD). I'm just wondering why you made this edit, as the new redirect doesn't seem to make too much sense to me. --ais523 12:29, 11 September 2006 (U T C)

A bad joke on my part–"Users for Deletion." Feel free to change it back. Mackensen (talk) 12:31, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Stefan Roberts is back

172.201.95.3 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). Presumably the same as User:Johnpallen, who made anon edits from similar IPs. Proteus has reverted his recent edits. Choess 20:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Ta

Thanks for the checkuser. Steve block Talk 21:32, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Template

Having seen your comments, I thought you might be interested in Misplaced Pages:Templates_for_deletion#Template:Infobox_Scientist.--Peta 13:28, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Liked your comment on sockpuppetry

I made a similar comment then actually took the time to read yours ;-) 206.124.31.24 00:00, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Request

Hey, could you please protect the Romanians article? An edit war has broken out. Thanks. —Khoikhoi 01:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again. BTW, Jeorjika (talk · contribs) seems to be a sockpuppet of someone, possibly Constantzeanu (talk · contribs) or Bonaparte (talk · contribs). Could you do a check on him/her? —Khoikhoi 01:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, probably. Could you in turn please list your request at WP:RFCU so we've got a record? Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 01:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. —Khoikhoi 01:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Big pointy rocks...

...for snowing that. Please don't do that in the future, don't add fuel to the fire. I won't protest past here. --badlydrawnjeff talk 02:03, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

How about actually engaging in a discussion? I will continue to act in the interests of the encyclopedia and the community. I've read the old version of your user page, and I honestly fail to see how we could possibly come up with new information to justify Tony speedy deleting Process is Important. Read that again. It's important, not a fetish. Mackensen (talk) 02:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, it's important. To abandon it when we feel like it trivializes it. That's why I was against you closing the discussion early, especially citing that vile essay while doing it. It would be lax of me not to have left a note here about it, so I did. As I said, I don't intend to challenge it further, so just keep it in mind next time. --badlydrawnjeff talk 02:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
  - Well, you've clearly made your mind up. However, you seem unwilling to grapple with the central question, which is this: how does it benefit the encyclopedia to keep it open? What do you intend to accomplish? The deletion was so obviously out-of-process to pretend otherwise is blockheaded. Wasting time on DRV does the opposite of what you suggest: it trivializes the processes you apparently hold so dear by devoting five days to an action which requires about five minutes. It makes you look ridiculous. I'm afraid I can't keep your comments in mind because, in my view, they run completely contrary to what's best for the encyclopedia. I won't stop listening, but I don't agree and I'm not convinced. Mackensen (talk) 02:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Colonial governors

You originally created the List of colonial governors in YYYY series back in 2004. In the last two years they haven't expanded beyond Portugal and therefore aren't really doing any good. I noticed because one of the articles has been listed on cleanup since August of last year. I'm of the mind to prod them all, but wanted to know if there was a real possibility that these might get expanded in the near future. Best, Mackensen (talk) 01:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi there. If I remember correctly (and this was a while ago, so, I'm not quite sure), the colonial governors series was created due to fighting over the title of the state leaders series, mostly to have a place to put things that had been part of that series under the previous title but no longer fit. Regardless, the colonial governors ones haven't gotten much attention; state leaders and religious leaders always drew more interest (certainly from editors, I can only assume from readers as well). What time I myself spend on Misplaced Pages nowadays is mostly spent on Olympics coverage. I don't plan on expanding the colonial governors anytime soon, and since it appears that the majority of them haven't been touched since I created them, I would guess no one else is likely to expand them either. You might try dropping a line at the relevant WikiProject (Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Leaders by year), but since the project is inactive, I'd say go ahead with the prodding. Happy editing! -- Jonel | Speak 02:34, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I'll drop a note there before making a mess. Mackensen (talk) 02:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Going through them a little more, it looks like the most recent 4 (2003-06) are actually somewhat developed--if they all looked like that, they'd be so much more helpful. -- Jonel | Speak 03:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I can't imagine there are that many...what's the rubric? Mackensen (talk) 03:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

The list of colonial governors in 2006 has 66 entries, many with multiple incumbents. They range from the Netherlands Antilles to Howland Island. Trim the uninhabited islands ("administered by the US Department of the Interior") and you get maybe 15-20 solidly good ones (such as the prime minister of Greenland). -- Jonel | Speak 03:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Interesting. Let's hold off on prodding the rest then, at least for the moment. Mackensen (talk) 10:38, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Please keep. Some of these are of interest to me and I'll try to contribute (I've worked on United Nations List of Non-Self-Governing Territories which is somewhat related). In any event, they'll be wanted sooner or later, and why make someone start from scratch? Thanks, Newyorkbrad 23:12, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser Pussy Galore

I wasn't fishing for hte User:Pussy Galore account. I am not even asking you to run it. He requested checkuser and it showed sockpuppets last week. He is now banned. We know those accounts exist. I don't want to know what those accounts were. I jsut don't want to have to battle them in the future. I agree that there would be no justification to run checkuser as a suspicion and I wouldn't have requested it based on the users edit history. But he requested it and the Checkuser keepers ran it at his own request. Once that decision was made, the die was cast. If the checkuser had come back last week indicating a Indefintitely Banned user or that he was violating policy, would there be no action taken since it was fishing? Checkuser WAS run. The decision about "fishing" should have been made before it was run, not after. The checkuser bell was already rung and it was run in good faith. You don't need to rering it, just ban the accounts that turned up last week. Otherwise you will be inundated with exonerating request for checkuser so that trolls can go on a rampage without repercussion. This is very similar to legal search warrants. If the search warrant was for Marijuana made in good faith and the search turned up cocaine, the person with cocaine doesn't go free because the warrant didn't say cocaine. Similarly when police pat down suspects for weapons and it turns up narcotics, they don't go free on an illegal search. The checkuser was done in good faith. It turned up something more than the requester expected but that doesn't mean we ignore the results. The reason for turning down checkuser requests for "fishing" is because there is not enough evidence to jsutify the check. This is just the opposite: checkuser was run in good faith and we know checkuser returned accounts. The user was banned for trolling (his behavior is why checkuser even came up). Not acting on that information is turning the policy on it's head. Use Use common sense--Tbeatty 03:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

It showed sockpuppets last week? This is news to me. Mackensen (talk) 10:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- aahh. I was going off of the User's own comments where he expected to have sockpuppets that didn't violate policy. I presumed checkuser found those sockpuppets but there use wasn't a violation. If not, no worries. It still think it would be a good policy to run checkuser, not report the results, but blcok the turnups. In this case nothing would be done obviously but it wouldn't be a rejected request. Editors would simply never know whether a sock puppet showed up. --Tbeatty 17:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- In hindsight, I guess it would be pointless to do this since the whole idea is not to ban IPs forever (and if they are banned, it doesn;t matter what the account name is.) Sorry to waste your time. --Tbeatty 17:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
  - Hardly a waste–by all means you had every reason to ask. I wasn't able to find any sockpuppets the first time, and I did check once more to be sure. Without someone else to check against, however, my options are pretty limited. Cheers, Mackensen (talk) 19:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Based upon the Afd patterns, and the admissions on the userpage, I would say he's now using User:Mujinga. Morton devonshire 23:05, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem

Thanks for your apology. Don't worry, though, as it is quite understandable. WP:ANI is often inundated with less than upright types shedding crocodile tears regarding one terrible injustice or another. I can easily see why it would be tempting to write of most complaints as just that. I'm glad that you took the time to examine my own and that you eventually came to the conclusion that my matter is of a different and more honest nature than most. Best wishes, --AaronS 22:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC) I should add that I apologize if I was in any way insensitive, as well. --AaronS 22:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Paradox

~~I thought User:Giano and User:Tony Sidaway already did that.~~ ... um, is destroying the noticeboard supposed to be a good thing or a bad thing? :) Newyorkbrad 01:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Mackensen (talk) 01:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

RFCU

Don't do that again. Don't do what again -- put up an RFCU, allegedly make sockpuppets, what? Ameise -- chat 02:25, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I was simply commenting on your (admitted) mistake of accidentally soliciting votes on a community. That's all. Mackensen (talk) 02:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- All right. Ameise -- chat 03:03, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Eatonsh=Continueddonations=Returnoftheman

With literally no break at all, permanently blocked user Eatonsh aka Continueddonations is back, this time exclusively focusing on the main Schizophrenia and the Talk:Schizophrenia page. That they all are the same user is obvious if you look at his writing style, interpunction, topics, timing, appearance, mode of reasoning, etc. that IMHO it does not need any further proof. However, I am not sure how to deal with it any further; I admit I am somehow involved in this by now (he has called me a Nazi perhaps once too often by now), and reverting him all the time is a drag and looks, in spite of my explanations, odd to some other users on the page in question, some of which are helping him. Thus, I am herewith asking some of the users, admins and ArbCom members who were involved in this case previously to check and to either suggest what to do or to initiate some remedial course of action. Many thanks in advance. Ebbinghaus 23:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

You're right about him being back. Unfortunately, his IPs seem too widespread for an effective range block. Mackensen (talk) 03:43, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Arbcom appeal

I have launched a second appeal against the article ban, and have quoted you in the statement of case as well as linked to a contribution of yours on the Administrators' Noticeboard. Just wanted to alert you in case I was quoting you out of context. David | Talk 19:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Smile :)

Srose (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

Hi, Mackensen! I thought I'd leave you this smile because your witty reply to oppose voter #7 on Thatcher's RFA made me giggle. Have a great wikiday, and thanks for the laugh! :) Srose (talk) 02:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

IRC

I was wondering, do you use IRC? I need to ask you a question (no, not about an RFCU request - I read the solicitation thing), and I'd rather do it over IRC, if that's possible - it *may* involve a tiny bit of discussion, of which talk pages aren't best suited to. Cheers, Daniel .Bryant 05:57, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I do, under the same moniker. Mackensen (talk) 06:00, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Would you be able to jump on #wikipedia for a sec? Daniel .Bryant 06:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

User:乾隆也是龍 and User:乾隆龍也 (More Edipedia socks)

I know you just confirmed a checkuser request for User:Edipedia's socks. But it seems like User:乾隆也是龍 and User:乾隆龍也 may be two more socks that he created today. Both accounts are new and do the same reverts that Edipedia does. User:乾隆也是龍 has already been put on indef block for having a non-English username. After that block, User:乾隆龍也 was immediately created to do the same kinds of reverts. The strongest evidence is probably that User:乾隆龍也 is blanking out the sockpuppet warning on the the userpage of User:Edipedia. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 18:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, looks like another admin already caught on. =) Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 18:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Taracka

I see you're online? Could you do me a favour and check over Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Taracka, if you have the time? Feel free to ignore this message if you don't have the time to check for me. :-) --Lord Deskana (talk) 21:34, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll take a quick look, but I suspect that I won't be able to run a full check for a bit. Mackensen (talk) 21:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks. --Lord Deskana (talk) 22:21, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:AN/I comment

Hey Mackensen,

Thanks for your explanatory note here. I can completely understand your frustration, as I've been involved in similar situations with similar users, where I felt my comments weren't being given weight. At this point, I'm going to remove myself from the FSF debate, as the interaction I've had with him is somewhat limited, consisting of a bit of back-and-forth on some of the sockpuppet pages, one RFA vote, and my indef blocking of one account, and because I just don't want to argue with good editors on Misplaced Pages. Best wishes, Firsfron of Ronchester 22:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I've done the same. I had hoped that I'd seen the last of him last February. Alas, my responsibilities here mean I'll probably see a good deal more of him. I mean you no ill-will, and I hope that I did no lasting offense, as I certainly did not wish to. Best, Mackensen (talk) 22:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

No, I know you meant no ill will; we all say things we later regret, and I respect your work on Misplaced Pages. One comment shouldn't change that. For my part, I hope you know that my comment was just trying to calm everyone down. Guess it didn't work that well. :/ I look forward to working with you in future endeavours. Happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester 23:41, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't know that anything anyone could have said would've work at that time. I'm glad that someone tried, at least. Cheers, Mackensen (talk) 00:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Cretan socks

Hey, Mackensen. I wanted to find out whether we're doing the right thing in continuing to submit checkuser requests for these sockpuppets of Cretanpride. He's fairly easy to spot, but not quite what I'd call "obvious" sockpuppetry. On the one hand, I don't want to waste your time having to check the same user over and over again; on the other hand, it's just about possible that another individual could have the same issues/hangups with the Homosexuality in ancient Greece that Cretanpride does, and I don't want to block a good-faith user without just cause. Are you OK continuing to do checkuser in this ongoing case?

I've blocked Cretanpride indefinitely — enough is enough — but previous blocks haven't seemed to deter him. Do you have any suggestions on how best to deal with a persistent sockpuppeteer? I don't want to protect the article, because improvements are ongoing (ironically enough, the article has been improved significantly since Cretanpride began his campaign, because it's forced the editors to source the article much more thoroughly). Do we just keep playing whack-a-mole with these sockpuppets? Is there any less confrontational way to resolve the situation without condoning the sockpuppetry? I'm getting tired of this. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm content to check additional Cretanpride socks–he's easy to spot. I have a pretty good bead on his editing locations, and a targeted range block might be within the realm of possibility. Otherwise, he's either banned or he's not, and it would be a mistake to trod a middle path. Mackensen (talk) 01:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

- That works for me, and of those options I would certainly come down on the side of "he's banned". I guess I just wish that we hadn't had to get into this stupid contest of wills with him; his actual edits are slowly improving and becoming more encyclopedic. It's as if the block is making him a better editor or something. But I suppose you can't try to rehabilitate someone who doesn't admit they're doing anything wrong. :/ Thanks for your time; if a range block is possible (without blocking all of UC Irvine, or whereever he actually is), that would be great. Thanks. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Warren Kinsella

This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above. Arthur Ellis is banned indefinitely from Warren Kinsella and articles which relate to Canadian politics and its blogosphere. Any article which mentions Warren Kinsella is considered a related article for the purposes of this remedy. This includes all talk pages other than the talk page of Mark Bourrie. Arthur Ellis is required to use one registered account. For the Arbitration Committee. FloNight 03:49, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

User:67.86.88.191

I know about a month ago you blocked my IP address indefinitely as a "hive of scum and villainy". But really I made some good contributions so I agree to being blocked for a period of time but not forever, ya see what I mean. If you look at User:NicAgent's contribs, and those of User:Harrison V and User:How dare you?, you will see I actually made some worthwile contributions. An example of that are some of the photos on Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, as well as some info I added a while back on Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.

If you want me to, I will fully explain everything about my encounter with Misplaced Pages and why I vandalized so much.

Yes I know you will assume that this is a User:NicAgent sock, but I had to reach you somehow as User talk:67.86.88.191 is protected from editing. Please respond on my talk page when you get the chance. Thanx

Oh and BTW I am leaving for college in less than a year so the indefinite block on me isn't gonna last forever. And I can always edit in school like I am now.

--Creator Prophet 12:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Naturally you won't begrudge me checking your IP; I see that you're up to your old tricks again. The Railer accounts really are a dead giveaway. I don't want to range-block your high school but if you keep it up I'll have little choice. When your high school contacts Misplaced Pages to ask why I'll tell them. I don't think we want to go down that path. I confess I'm not very interested in hearing why you felt the need to trash the place; whatever good contributions you made are so outweighed by the damage that I, for one, know that I could never coutenance unblocking. This is my offer: stop editing and we won't contact your high school to report a breach both of our terms of service and their network usage agreement. Best, Mackensen (talk) 14:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Cedar High School

I don't mind you removing the prod tag, but if you're going to do that you ought to try and do something about the article. As it stands it's a sub-stub, completely unverified.

I have to respectfully disagree. Removing a PROD tag should not require some type of obligation on the part of the person doing the removal. The article already has a stub tag, which is sufficient from my perspective. — RJH (talk) 14:48, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, we can agree to disagree there. Mackensen (talk) 14:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes this is true. I am just going by the Misplaced Pages:Proposed deletion policy. The step to edit an article is optional, although I do on occasion try to address the issues raised by the PROD. My experience has been that almost all High School AfD's result in a keep, so I view the PROD of such an article as controversial unless the article in question is merely a one-liner page. Per the proposed WP:SCHOOLS guidelines, the recommended action is actually a merge of the article with a higher-level administrative district. This seems like a reasonable alternative to going through all the deletion hoops. Thanks. — RJH (talk) 15:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

69.12.166.40

Hi, Mackensen. I noticed an unblock request from someone using the IP 69.12.166.40, which you blocked for a month for disruption. The recent contributions from the IP looked fine to me, but then I saw that your reason for blocking is, "Anyone caught in an auto-block is probably Johnny the Vandal/Mike Garcia and shouldn't be unblocked." Is that worded the way you meant it? I thought that people were often inadvertently caught by autoblocks. Is this particular autoblock more likely to be of Johnny the Vandal or Mike Garcia for some reason? Is there evidence that suggests that the IP is being used by Johnny the Vandal or Mike Garcia that cannot be revealed? If the block is just based upon being caught in an autoblock, I think that the IP should be unblocked and that its contributions should be watched. If the IP is caught in another autoblock, then that would be more suspicious.

Also, I checked your block log to see if I could figure out why the 69.12.166.40 block was made and I noticed the month long block of 24.29.86.172. I checked it out in case it could give me information on why the other block was made. However, it only has a single edit, a joke on the sandbox. Unless you were contacted by email or on IRC, I do not see how it could be an autoblock thing, too, since you would not have known about the autoblock. I was wondering if there were deleted edits that were a problem or if there is evidence that the IP was being used by a vandal. I'm going to sleep, so it might be a while before I get back to you. Thanks, Kjkolb 17:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I have checkuser access which means that sometimes my IP blocks are based on evidence that regular users don't have access to. Which user was requesting the unblock? Mackensen (talk) 18:00, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- Someone using the IP address 69.12.166.40 is requesting to be unblocked. -- Kjkolb 10:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
  - Yes, I see that. I've denied it once already. If it gets unblocked I'm going to have to watch it very carefully. Mackensen (talk) 11:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Zer0faults/admin

Thought you may be interested: User:Zer0faults/admin 69.153.88.51 17:37, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Kind of him. Further proof you've only got to slip once around here. Mackensen (talk) 17:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I guess you can wave bye-bye to the seat on the board, chartered jet, and extra cookies at snack time. Thatcher131 18:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

User talk:69.12.166.40

Could you take a look at this users' unblock request please. You have blocked the user for disruption, but I can't quite find any recent disruptive edits, I'm assuming you know better.--Konstable 05:39, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh never mind, I just realised that you were the one who responded to the initial unblock request already.--Konstable 05:40, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Mackensen, I award you this barnstar for your sterling efforts at Requests for checkuser, and for your work in blocking open proxy IPs, giving the Willy on Wheels a flat tire, and being an excellent all-round admin, checkuser and bureaucrat!! Here's to more successful work from Mackensen.... keep the great work up! LiverpoolCommander 17:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Aw, thanks ;) (Psst, I'm not a bureaucrat!) Mackensen (talk) 17:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Glad you like it. I'm back on Misplaced Pages after a year out - I was formerly a few usernames but kept locking myself out (I forgot to enable email on the old accounts!). Anyhow, I can do open proxy tests - ask at WP:PROXY for me, since I'm on wikibreak this week! --LiverpoolCommander 17:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Good faith

Good faith? Explain to me seriously why I should have good faith, everyone now knows that all wikipedia real business is conducted in various IRC chanels, those of us who do not go there are discussed, chewed up and decided upon - my immagination - or is that lacking in good faith too? Giano 21:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)