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As of now, article sounds like fanzine. Rewrite please! 165.21.154.116 20:49, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Um, information from the movie 'Sepet' seems to have mistakenly been merged with this page!

Tekken needs to be removed

There was a rumor that he was going to start in the Tekken movie but this quote from the Tekken movie page disprooves it.

Talks of actors such as Takeshi Kaneshiro and Vicki Zhao appearing in the film are untrue as confirmed by Mr Rodney Cajudo of Crystal Sky Productions

Don't forget to sign guys (use four ~ symbols or the signature button). I changed the link to School Days to School Days (film) because it pointed to an unrelated video game. We're probably going to need a disambiguation page. --ScarletSpiderDave 11:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

racial issue

Kaneshiro is a mixed Japanese-Taiwanese person. Some people might agree that he can be included as a Chinese person due to his ethnic background (most Japanese and Taiwanese orginiated from China); however, this is a violation of NPOV since it is such a delicate, controversial issue on wikipedia, it is safe to leave him out of the Chinese category.--Bonafide.hustla 06:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

There is no such ethnicity as "Taiwanese". As far as I know, Takeshi Kaneshiro's heritage (non-Japanese part thereof) is Han Chinese and not Taiwanese Aborigines. Unless you can show some evidence that he is Taiwanese Aboriginal, or that "Taiwanese" is an ethnicity rather than a residency status? --Sumple (Talk) 07:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
  • First off, I need to say I resent your post on my talkpage falsely accusing me as a POV editor. I'm trying to bring NPOV to POV articles. I don't think that the English language Misplaced Pages should know or care about these distintions, especially if they cannot be expressed in English. All the Ethnic Group list articles are meant to simply list people who (themselves or their ancestors) immigrated from a particular country. This so-called Chinese is, or should be, those people who came from China (mainland); the existing 'list of Taiwanese Americans' article are those people who came from Taiwan. No politics here. No culture here. No self-reference questions of the people involved--who knows what is in their minds. Using the rough term Han Chinese as an excuse to classify Taiwanese as Chinese is unjust to the Taiwanese population. Just geographic facts.

Anything else should be removed as not NPOV. Thanks --Bonafide.hustla 07:15, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

You seem to have a mistaken understanding of the word "ethnicity". Please consult a dictionary. --Sumple (Talk) 07:29, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Are you trying to make personal attack? I wouldn't be editing here if I'm illiterate. Base on human history, all Asians and natives Americans are from the same ethnicity. Ethnics is very vague. Plus we're not even talking about ethnicity here, we're talking about nationality.--Bonafide.hustla 07:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I do not believe that you are illiterate. I just think that you have a mistaken understanding of certain words, such as "Chinese", "ethnicity", "race", "nationality", "geography", "Taiwanese". Seriously, have you even looked at the Han Chinese page? Just start with the ethnicity page. And the Mongoloid page while you are at it. --Sumple (Talk) 07:43, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Well apparently the categories may refer to nationality instead of ethnic backgrounds. Plus if you really are that concern about ethnicity than I guess a lot of American celebrities are missing the British ethnicity.--Bonafide.hustla 07:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

They can refer to nationality as well as ethnic backgrounds. Look, British vs American is a totally different issue to Chinese vs Taiwanese. If you look at the political status of Taiwan page you will see that a significant portion of people in Taiwan regard "Taiwanese" as a subset of "Chinese". It's not up to you or I to say which way people should identify themselves.
Given that Takeshi Kaneshiro is Han Chinese, and, indeed, Taiwanese, his ethnicity is well described by being "Chinese", unless you can show a source that says he thinks he's not? --Sumple (Talk) 09:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
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