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This article badly needs to be expanded. If we compare this to the article 'Deir Yassin massacre', the difference is striking. Please join in and expand. --Daniel575 | (talk) 14:15, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Survivor accounts

There is nothing wrong with the account of Rabbi Kaplan. If anybody minds the site which it is hosted on, I will place it on my own site and link to that. That solves that problem. All survivor accounts are welcome, whether they are pro-Zionist or anti-Zionist. I believe the account by Rabbi Kaplan to be fully factual and correct. If anybody disagrees, they are welcome to add other survivor accounts also. But deleting this one merely because it does not portray the Zionists in a positive light is crazy. It was written by a very well-respected rabbi who later became the head of one of the biggest Jewish girl's schools in New York. His religious views on Zionism are not controversial either, they are held by hundreds of thousands of other Haredi Jews. --Daniel575 | (talk) 14:15, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Can you provide a reliable source for his quotation ? Amoruso 14:20, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

As it says, it is a transcript from a speech he held in Yiddish. I have spoken to people who knew him. He died a while ago. The speech can be found on several websites, and is well known in Haredi circles. There is nothing unreliable about it. There are also German and Dutch translations of it around. --Daniel575 | (talk) 14:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok. now, I propse deleting this . And have a "see also" for 1929 riots. :

The other major centers of violence were in Safed, where 18 Jews were killed in a brief attack.

During the week of riots, the fatalities were:

Killed: 133 Jews, 116 Arabs.

Wounded: 339 Jews, 232 Arabs.

Amoruso 14:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

"Rabbi Kaplans tape is available in the Otzer Emunah Tape Library of Monsey: (845)426-6812" Or go to Rabbi Kaplan's family, they run the Beis Yaakov of Boro Park, where he was the principle. Now - what do you propose deleting? --Daniel575 | (talk) 14:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Added a 'see also'. --Daniel575 | (talk) 14:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

"The next Friday, 23 August, Arabs, inflamed by rumors that two Arabs had been killed by Jews, started an attack on Jews in the Old City." Which Old City? Jerusalem or Hebron? Needs to be clarified. The current link 'Old City' redirects to 'Jerusalem's Old City walls'. If we are talking about the Old City of Hebron, this is incorrect. --Daniel575 | (talk) 14:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I want to delete the section about the riots elsewhere (it's not the place, it should only be in the 1929 riots article), not the quote. About the old city, it's jerusalem, maybe should also be deleted. Amoruso 14:44, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Survivor Accounts Part Deux

I think Kaplan account, particularly the characterization that the "Zionists are to blame" is irrelevant to the 1929 Hebron Massacre itself. This is not an article about Zionism. Its an article about a historical event. --Meshulam 19:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)