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Article lede changed in a manner to make it inaccurate.

In this edit User:TheCorduroyEffect changes the lede sentence in a manner that simplifies the sentence a little bit, but it changes the meaning from what used to be accurate to what is now inaccurate.

"the belief that at least one deity exists" is not the same meaning as "the belief in the existence of deities." And, of course, the difference is that the current version excludes the singular and only includes the plural. That is both a misrepresentation of the vast majority of theists (who are monotheistic), it is also just inaccurate.

I will change it to "the belief in the existence of a or deities." Perhaps it should just be reverted, but I don't want to have a revert struggle, so I will try to take this edit and make it better rather than revert it. 173.48.60.68 (talk) 03:25, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Making a distinction with deism

We need sources here for reducing theism to belief in gods who intervene in the world. Cudworth's definition, in drawing a line between atheists and theists, plainly puts deists in the latter camp, and he is a contemporary of the originators of the idea, in the place of its origin. It would be fair to record deistic objection to being categorized with other believers in gods, but (a) if this distinction is more or less universally observed, we need a source for that, and (b) in any case we need a source for the deist perspective; you cannot just say it on your own authority. Mangoe (talk) 17:22, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Does the term exclude pantheism and deism?

I feel pretty sure that I once read somewhere that as theism is belief in a God who is both transcendent and immanent, it would be taken to exclude both pantheism (which rejects the transcendence of God) and deism (which rejects the immanence of God). This could be more clearly formulated in the article. Vorbee (talk) 15:56, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

I like the suggestion, but the question is where is theism defined as "belief in a God who is both transcendent and immanent." Because, if that is the definition of theism, than it would be pretty close to pantheism? Thanks, warshy 18:00, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

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