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Statement of the dispute

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Description

Safelibraries is the webmaster of Safelibraries.org, a personal website/blog in which he advocates the removal of some material from public libraries. Because most libraries currently do not implement such removals, Safelibraries is a harsh critic of libraries, the American Library Association, the American Civil Liberties Union, and other individuals and organizations with similar beliefs.

Since joining Misplaced Pages, Safelibraries has persistently edited in ways that promote his personal political beliefs. The bulk of Safelibraries' edits to Misplaced Pages have been devoted the insertion of criticism of the persons and organizations he opposes. In these edits, Safelibraries has had persistent difficulties in complying with NPOV, Reliable sources, No Original Research and other policies and guidelines. Taken together, these edits consitute a violation of Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox.

A diverse group of editors on several different pages have spent a large number of words trying to explain to Safelibraries the troubles with many of his edits, and trying to help him understand how to be a more productive member of the Misplaced Pages community. Regrettably, it seems these disparate talk page discussions are unlikely to have any further effect, and I feel it now becomes necessary to solicit a wider community consensuss to help Safelibraries understand how to improve his editing, why Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox is such a vital principle of the Misplaced Pages community.

Evidence of disputed behavior

American Library Association and related

As an IP user, Safelibraries writes a paragraph summarizing his own views an inserts in ALA article and adds vanity link to own website .
Creates a named user with the name of his website, first edits user page with a link to his advocacy blog.
Re-inserts and expands his earlier edits with the edit summary "Restoring wholesale censorship of "Critical Responses" section by Rlitwin"
Again re-inserts extensive criticism
Inserts public records of campaign donations by private individuals who are members of ALA, arguing on that this implies the ALA is pro-abortion.
Inserts non-notable criticism of Banned Books Week , inserts further criticsm and re-inserts
Inserts criticim of specific local libraries into Multnomah County, Oregon , Spotswood High School (Virginia) , and Morris County, New Jersey
Inserts passionate diatribe against the National Education Association's "promotion of the so-called gay rights agenda in public schools" which is highly non-NPOV , re-inserts non-notable link critical of NEA

American Civil Liberties Union and related

Inserts disparaging quote against ACLU founder and re-inserts
Inserts criticism of ACLU
Inserts non-notable link critical of ACLU
Inserts another non-notable link critical of ACLU
On ACLU v. NSA, repeated deletion of word "domestic" in "domestic wiretapping"
Inserts non-notable link with non-NPOV link text to Freedom of speech in the United States , re-inserts , re-inserts

Link spam and resultant edit wars

Safelibraries inserted a particular link that is critical of the ALA into wikipedia a total of 14 different times:
Spams link to non-notable anti-ACLU page onto 4 articles: American Civil Liberties Union , Censorship , Children's literature, List of banned books
When editors from the articles remove the links, he proceeds to revert the deletion, re-inserting the link an addition 8 times:
Again inserts link into ACLU page, now directly discussing it in the text
Inserts same link into a users talk page.

Misrepresentation of Sources

In one of the most controversial edits, Safelibrary actually goes to the blog of a fellow Misplaced Pages editor who opposes him in this content dispute and inserts a quote from her blog into the article text. In doing so, he falsely implies that the quotes suggests SHE is a critic of the ALA, when he knows full well, she opposes his views on this issue. In doings so, he approaches (but certainly doesn't cross) the line of wikistalking, he quotes a non-notable source (a fellow wikipedian's blog), and in doing so, he knowingly misrepresents her opinion.
In the same edit inserts a quote from the ALA website to support his assertion that the ALA has been frequently criticized about a specific matter. But when you check the actual source he cites, it makes no mention of any criticism whatsoever-- the document is merely a FAQ which mentions they are "often asked"-- not often criticized. In doing so again, he again knowingly misleads the reader about the content contained in that source.
When the edit is deleted, he re-inserts it.

Incivility, Personal Attacks, Not Assuming Good Faith

Safelibraries has routinely accused users who revert his changes of practicing censorship and of being hypocritical. (see talk pages listed below)
Comment on ALA talk page establishes the link between the ACLU and his Safelibraries website:

"my concerns about the ACLU relate to how they have influenced the American Library Association , what are the connections between the ALA and the ACLU that negatively affect the health and safety of children"

"I'm not likely to contribute to this ACLU page much further. I can see the ACLU people have complete control on this page, making the ACLU look just so, and I'm merely a small flea to be brushed away like a blip on a wiki watch page."

Accuses User:Atlant of racism, asking "Are you prejudiced against cubans?"
Accuses User:Hughcharlesparker of bias with edit summary: "Hughcharlesparker who apparently never read this Talk section or doesn't care to, and who appears to be biased based on his own text"

Applicable policies and guidelines

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

A very diverse group of editors have attempted to provide Safelibraries with feeback about the nature of his edits in general, and his violations of Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox in particular.

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Response

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Yeow. Just reading the statements made about me I can see this is going to take a lot of writing. I am not going to do all that writing all at once. So what I may write here will be only partial until I say I'm finally done. --SafeLibraries 03:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

All of the following is my opinion.

It is claimed "Safelibraries is the webmaster of Safelibraries.org, a personal website/blog in which he advocates the removal of some material from public libraries." Misleading. The removal of some material from public libraries amounts to nothing more that the very material various laws and US Supreme Court cases already provide for removing from public libraries. In a nutshell, the law allows certain material to be removed and/or blocked, and where it is not being removed and/or blocked, I am advocating that people become educated about the law so that they can act to comply with the law and to expose others who are failing to follow the law. The seriousness of this issue comes from the continued victimization of children that laws and cases were written or decided to curtail but, due to the intervention of a single nationwide organization with great power over American libraries, those children continue to be victimized despite the law. When children stop being raped and molested in public libraries that follow the single organization's directives instead of local community standards, then my efforts regarding my web site will cease and desist. The organization's actions were possibly admirable before it lost in the US Supreme Court. But now that it lost and is advising libraries to skirt the law and children continue to suffer as a result, well then that's a very serious matter and there is nothing wrong with my interests in making people aware of the law and aware that they have the power to return control of their own libraries to their own taxpayers. --SafeLibraries 03:42, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

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