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Esperanza Fhlostan images

I just noticed they got deleted... that's really too bad, they were lovely and relaxing! Do you have any thoughts for a replacement image (for we certainly need one!). It would seem appropriate for you to pick it, since you had it up originally. -- Natalya 02:03, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Austrian nobility

Hi Gryffindor;

How are you? I've been thinking, do you think it would be fine to now remove the extensive lists of names and maintain them at the articles entitled List of princes of Austria-Hungary, List of counts of Austria-Hungary, etc? I feel it would be much easier than maintaining an extremely long article. Charles 23:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

August Esperanza Newsletter

Quick request

Hi Gryffindor;

Rather than me posting a requested move, could you move Princess Victoria of Hesse and the Rhine to Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine? All other princesses of Hesse (Darmstadt line) are at this designation. Thanks! Charles 02:21, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Gryffindor. I'll get on that. Oh, I don't know if this is of importance to you, but you may be interested in Talk:Meissen. There is an issue regarding the use of the eszett and ss when using the name of the city in English. I came across this from basic work with the pages of various Margraves of Meissen. Charles 21:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, Gryffindor. There is another Hessian royal that needs to be moved. Prince Alexander of Hesse-Darmstadt is supposed to be at Prince Alexander of Hesse and by Rhine. Many, many thanks. Charles 20:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Alexander was the son of Louis II, Grand Duke of Hesse and by Rhine. Misplaced Pages, for some reason, truncates the title of the Grand Duke to Hesse, but for the very most part, the princes and princesses are at Hesse and by Rhine. Hesse and by Rhine replaced Hesse-Darmstadt when the head of the "Darmstadt" line was elevated from Landgrave to Grand Duke. The name change reflected a consolidation of territory. It is unlike Bourbon-Parma in that Hesse was sovereign at the time and the full designations were used. The name change would bring continuity to the series of Hessian royals and reflect actual usage. As for Meissen, thank you for taking the time to comment back to me on that. Charles 16:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it was determined at some point that there is no need to include "by Rhine" in the Grand Ducal title because there was only one Grand Duke of Hesse at any given time (unlike having two Grand Dukes of Mecklenburg at any given time). For princess and princesses though, there were various lines in the house of Hesse and common royal names were frequently used, so for the most part, the differencing names act as disambiguation. Charles 16:05, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Names

Hi, thanks for your information. My position is, that an article should have just one name and that it should be the English name in the English WP. I do not know what the English name is in this case, so I think it is better not to vote. This pair of names is not a good idea, I think. --Roland2 20:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

RFC

Please see Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style (Arabic)#poll for standard transliteration. I noticed that you previously contributed to the discussions on Arabic. thanks. Cuñado - Talk

Image Tags

I am trying to find a tag, not for an image, but for a clip. The "image" is actually a GIF, and so I'm not sure if a tag for "film screen-shot" is appropriate given that the "image" is not stationary. Are there tags for GIFs, or do I have to use the {film screen-shot}? Thank you. Bignole 12:27, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Here is a link to the image http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:THCSandman.gif . I didn't create it myself, but there has been some concern about it. Right now it's licensed as a film screen-shot, under the reason that we are using it for the Spider-Man 3 page for a look at the CGI of Sandman. Any help would be great. Bignole 13:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Bignole

Queen Anne of Romania and Wied-Neuwied

The administrator who closed the poll posted about it on the admin noticeboard after I requested that he reconsider moving it. Maximilian zu Wied-Neuwied should be at Prince Maximilian of Wied-Neuwied. Charles 16:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I moved Maximilian's page... I don't like circumventing the process, but it is non-controversial so the other admins won't have to worry about it. I think citing convention is enough. Charles 21:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Maria Antonietta of Naples and Sicily

Maria Antonietta should be at Princess Maria Antonietta of Naples and Sicily. Up until 1816, after she died, her father was the King of Naples and Sicily. After he was King of the Two Sicilies. Charles 20:48, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Bot

I don't own one, and I have no idea where people got the idea from.--§hanel 00:34, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Marie Louise, Duchess of Parma

Archduchess Marie Louise was Duchess of Parma in her own right, unlike Irene of Greece who married a member of a branch of the Royal House of Italy. Marie Louise's status as a sovereign (regardless of the degree) is higher than her naming as an archduchess of Austria (a non-ruling title). I would actually call on Irene to be renamed, preferably to Princess Irene of Greece and Denmark or less preferably Princess Irene, Duchess of Aosta. The status as consort is iffy... They are rarely referred to by royal titles. If so, Irene of Greece and Denmark would be sufficient. Charles 18:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology

The WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology has just been created. Why not take a look? I hope you can join. Inge 17:22, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Invitation to join in

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September Esperanza Newsletter

Rollback edits

Gryffindor, you should not use the administrative rollback on edits whose content you are currently involved with. I would appreciate if you and Suppalucca stops edit warring till some sort of agreement could be reached on the terminology to be used for South Tyrol places. Regards, --Asterion 21:04, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Apologies for any misunderstanding. Maybe the wording was not very successful but you have made significant edits indeed in the last few hours, the last one including the use of the administrative revert button which I consider inappropriate. Regards, Asterion 22:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Bozen-Bolzano

Excuse me, why putting the German version of the city website? We agree that Bolzano is in Italy, that the majority of the population is and speaks Italian, and that the English name is Bolzano. So, what are the reasons for choosing the German version, since there isn't an English version? I will not reedit that to avoid controversies, I hope you'll reconsider your revert.--Supparluca 11:23, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

You mean, the German version alone is acceptable, but not the Italian version alone?--Supparluca 13:10, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Of course you didn't say that the Italian version is not as valid as the German one, since it was implied in your rollback. In my opinion, it is better to put just one version to don't waste space and because the two versions are exactly the same page ( ), and of course this version should be the Italian one, for the (logical) reasons explained above and also because it's the same solution adopted for Aosta. However, I agree that your compromise is more acceptable than putting the German version alone.--Supparluca 08:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Copy?

Hi, Gryffindor! I love your decor and was wondering if I can borrow your Pax vobiscum dove, and maybe even your Talk template at the top of this page? They are so classy! Laura1822 19:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandal

Hi Gryffindor;

Manuel de Sousa, a banned vandal, is editing pages as an anonymous user (82.48.229.72 (talk · contribs)). Could you have him banned? Charles 18:55, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Sure thing, I understand completely. The behaviour matches identically so perhaps a sockpuppet tag would help best. Charles 21:41, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Gryff, have a good evening Charles 21:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Brixen

Hi Gryffindor, I moved Brixen-Bressanone to Brixen, Italy because Brixen was already taken by a dab. I don't think this one is particularly controversial: Brixen has a German-speaking majority (approx. 60%), and I saw nobody arguing for Bressanone on Talk:Communes of South Tyrol. I don't think it's necessary to restart the requested move circus for all separate articles, do you? Markussep 20:26, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I started this survey on 14 September, after a false start at Bozen-Bolzano on 10 September. I think most arguments have surfaced by now, and there was a clear majority for this solution, see the summary. I don't think waiting longer would have changed much. As for Bolzano and Merano: the Italian names are a lot more common in English (according to Google test), so that would be the better choice. For Bolzano, it's also the majority language. I don't see the big advantage of using double names in article titles, they're very confusing, especially in composite names (Natz-Schabs etc.). The minority names haven't gone, you know! BTW I'm not finished moving, I'm working my way down the alphabet (next in queue: St. Leonhard in Passeier). Markussep 21:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

From the WP:RM page: "Page moves usually take place after five days, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator. The time for discussion may be extended if a consensus has not emerged.". Anyway, my impression was that the discussion was completed. I understand that you're disappointed your suggestions didn't get more support. I agree that Merano violates the "C" scheme (by a very narrow margin), but the naming conventions are clear about using the name that the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize. I guess that goes above the population majority then, although the Google test was not extremely decisive (858k:326k). I wouldn't mind having a separate discussion about one or two towns (do I understand you correctly that you only have major objections against Merano?), but not for all 116. And let's consider other place names (rivers, valleys) in South Tyrol, like Rienz-Rienza, Eisack-Isarco, Vinschgau-Val Venosta. Markussep 15:39, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Censorship

How can you delete my post like that? I have a few paragraphs of discussion with you and you decide to start censoring? Taalo 23:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)