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I think that finding in 2010 was incorrectly worded
- doi:10.1002/anie.201000679
- press release in 12 July 2010 https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/1706-1.174049
Simplest explanation: it can be that "ovocleidin-17" protein was part of egg from "bird that was not a chicken" (or from "proto chicken") but "ovocleidin-17" has been produced after mutation.
We can only speculate in either direction (mutation or not).
So, "Egg came first" is not defeated by "ovocleidin-17" arguments.
"ovocleidin-17" can simplify what we understand as "chicken". D1gggg (talk) 18:01, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
"The chicken is only an egg's way of making another egg"
Apparently it was expressed in Life and Habit, ch. 8 (1877) w:wikiquote:Samuel Butler (novelist)
I have troubles to find exact quote from Richard Dawkins bibliography or w:wikiquote:Richard Dawkins
For example: "This is of course the old 'a chicken is just an egg's way to breed a new egg' line of thinking, dressed up in fancy hi-tech. It is equally possible to give an account of genetics and evolution from the point of view of the organism ..." D1gggg (talk) 13:43, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
recent edits by Deacon Vorbis
- explanation from Sorensen is removed
- incorrect references about Aristotle by François Fénelon
- illustrations to "Which came first: the chicken or the egg? The egg – laid by a bird that was not a chicken" just removed
I'm not able to get explanation from @Deacon Vorbis: at their user pages... D1gggg (talk) 13:47, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
- They're not my edits; they're yours, that have been reverted. I've already explained: there's a lot of bad markup (colored boxes around words, etc), poor English, removal of content that shouldn't be removed, and a little bit of stuff that looks like WP:OR. --Deacon Vorbis (talk) 13:51, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
- WP:LISTEN to WP:BURDEN
- I explained all the additions and all the removals.
- It is your time to explain your deletion of correct statements and your addition of incorrect claims, wrong quotations and such. D1gggg (talk) 13:55, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Deacon Vorbis: why you are re-adding wrong quotation about Aristotle repeatedly?
- quotation was discussed 2 years ago D1gggg (talk) 14:04, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
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