Talk:Persistent genital arousal disorder

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If it is a syndrome then the words in the title are capitalised. FearÉIREANN 01:01, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC) Not necessarily.

The word "persistant" should be changed to either "pesky", "distracting" or "annoying". Thewayofthegunn (talk) 11:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)thewayofthegunn

source

Mainichi itself is a reliable news source. It is referencing the Shukan Post, which I think is closer to a tabloid. I don't think it's unbiased reporting (neutral point of view) to link the Mainichi article about the Shukan Post article. --SFTheWanderer 16:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

PSA

I'm guessing PSAS can also affect men... --Kitetsu 11:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Kitetsu, PSAS could potentially affect men as well. There are several men listed as members on the support forums, and they complain of the same feelings that the women do. Research hasn't been done to the point of including men, however, but the symptoms are often similar; constant, painful arousal, disassociation of pleasure relating to orgasm, and, in some cases, the wish to never have an orgasm again. There is no regular orgasmic feeling anymore; There is trauma and pain now associated with something that is supposed to be fun and normal. It's very distressing and humiliating for these women (and men) because they are looked upon as freaks or "lucky," even by medical professionals. The forum is going strong, as is the Yahoo group that was created. Personally, I don't think this topic should be merged with anything because it is its own subject and diagnosis and taking away the name put to the feelings would potentially trivialize the suffering the afflicted go through. We could capitalize it if necessary, however, if that's how it should be. Jennifer Radcliffe 07:55, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't know why anyone would want to merge this with clitorism, the two articles describe completely different syndromes.

Yeah, I don't see it either. From the descriptions the two conditions seem independent of each other. 68.149.166.16 06:51, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm guessing clitorism and priapism were included as follow-up links for those trying to chase down references to a perpetual state of (apparent) sexual excitement.

At this time, PSAS is not considered a male condition, although it may not be ruled out in the future.

--UnicornTapestry (talk) 01:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

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This article is well-sourced and I don't think the unsourced template applies, therefore I have removed it.Typing monkey 06:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Are we supposed to take this seriously? Not only could it effect men? It does effect men...every man...every day. It's called normal. I think, although we try to forget or avoid it, we are creatures of nature. Therefore, we were put here to procreate. Constant sexual drive is not a disorder; not having constant sexual drive is the disorder. Not surprising, it was "discovered" by a woman, and what a surprise it mostly effects women in their 40s-50s (when you suppress sexual desire for 20-25 years, it comes back at you exponentially). I think if we do a little more "research", we'll find these women mostly come from western European Protestant backgrounds-the most sexually repressed cultural group on the planet. For a gender who is supposed to be "in touch" with their bodies and nature, you've really lost it this time. Do what men do in this situation; have at least 1 orgasm every day (alone or with help). You'll find there's a spring in your step, a twinkle in your eye & you'll move bowels on a daily basis, too.

Men admire people like, Hugh Hefner, because he's not embarrassed or afraid of his own sexual desires; and I'm sorry to say that most women are...that's the syndrome...that's the disorder. That's why heterosexual men like looking at women's bodies. That's why, according to psychologists, we think about sex every 7 seconds or so. We have jokes about persistent genital arousal; it's a normal part of our daily lives. Like, what's the advantage of eating a Chinese woman; after 15 minutes, you're hungry again. If you want to know why prostitution is the world's oldest profession, it's because men have persistent genital arousal, but for us it's not an "issue", it's a "problem". The difference between an "issue" and a "problem" is...a "problem" can be solved. Welcome to the real world...welcome to the world of men. Thewayofthegunn (talk) 18:31, 4 January 2011 (UTC)thewayofthegunn

One the symptoms is "the inability to concentrate on even simple tasks". Now you know how men feel when there's an attractive woman near by. When Albert Einstein was asked to explain Relativity, he stated: "When you sit next to a beautiful woman; 3 hours can feel like 3 minutes. When you sit on a hot stove; 3 minutes can feel like 3 hours. That's relativity." Please note the first part of his analogy...a wise man in so many ways. It's why I'm married to a latina and not a gringa.Thewayofthegunn (talk) 18:38, 4 January 2011 (UTC)thewayofthegunn

There's a huge deal of patriarchal rubbish attached to this, yes--women are still shamed for their sex drives. If we weren't shamed and called sluts (by other women as well as men) for it and allowed the same sexual freedoms without harassment and violence and shame the same way men are, yep, it would be easier for women to deal with even perfectly ordinary arousal. But this syndrome is not the same thing as having a high sex drive, as it's arousal unrelated to sexual thoughts. Sometimes persistent arousal comes with a high sex drive, sometimes it doesn't, and I expect the people who have a mismatch between their genitals and their psyches in this respect (body wants sex, brain doesn't feel like it) are the ones who suffer the most. I personally like the idea of the cognitive reframing and just dealing with it with by masturbating, but if it happens several times a day or when you're on a rumbling bus or something? Then it is a problem. The whole point is that it's unrelated to desire; hypersexuality or hyposexuality are different concerns.Snowgrouse (talk) 21:46, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

link

The link to source number 2 no longer functions properly. Reyemile (talk) 07:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

The Mainichi Shimbun acknowledged that some of the articles in their WaiWai column were inappropriate and deleted them from their site. They continue to examine other stories in the column while taking measures to block access to all of them. Therefore, I deleted the reference to the Mainichi's WaiWai column (it is unaccessible anyway) and put "fact" tags instead. Punitive measures over Mainichi Daily News WaiWai column announced Tarafuku10 (talk) 12:20, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

"RARE" disorder

I question any reference to this condition being rare, especially when we read so closely after that this item: "the condition is also frequently unreported by sufferers who may consider it shameful or embarrassing."

If the condition is unreported or underreported, then how can anyone consider this a 'rare' disorder?? The statistics are unavailable and as long as this is considered so shameful an affliction then generalized statements should be removed. I cite Jennifer's comment: "It's very distressing and humiliating for these women (and men) because they are looked upon as freaks or "lucky," even by medical professionals."

The truth is this condition needs to be recognized as 'real' if only as a possible link to other medical conditions. It should be a question asked by ALL medical professionals when gathering history on a patient. We may then find that this is not as much a 'rare' syndrome/disorder as this article would put about.

Any other thoughts on this please add so we can edit where needed in the article. ~~brattysoul —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.227.180 (talk) 16:34, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Documentary link not working

The second external link, "A Hundred Orgasms A Day", is referring to a page that doesn't exist. I found a much better alternative at http://www.documentaryz.com/c21-sexuality/1584-a-hundred-orgasms-a-day/ This page contains a lot more information and commentary about the documentary, as well as three videos. What do you think? Jeffrey87 (talk) 08:28, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Physical, pysiological or mental illness?

Is this condition a mental illness, or of a physical origin? The article isn't entirely clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.184.41.226 (talk) 05:30, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion?

Only five women have been recorded that have suffered (I mean suffered) from this condition. I'm not it is notable. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 14:42, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Lots of coverage by decent sources. So looks notable by that regard. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:59, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

F22 has done an excellent job in improving this article. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 11:17, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

It looks like this is resolved, but for what it's worth WP:NOTABILITY explicitly states that "notability does not necessarily depend on things such as fame, importance, or popularity", and I would suggest "prevalence" fits in the same category. The general notability guideline is clearly met. And besides, five cases makes this five times as common as ribose-5-phosphate isomerase deficiency‎. Adrian J. Hunter 05:12, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, Adrian J. Hunter. More than five case, though. Barbara (WVS) added "20" after making her comment above. And as you can see, I've added more on the matter. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 15:46, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

WP:Preserve

Barbara (WVS), regarding this, I hope you are looking to preserve this material. That piece was not simply about the male version. Anyway, if you don't preserve material like that, I will. Taking an axe to a topic with few review articles and few other academic sources is not productive, as made clear at WP:MEDDATE.

And your proposed deletion of the topic above makes no sense, but feel free to ask at WP:Med. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

A simple search on Google Books shows that the topic is WP:Notable. Something being rare does not mean it's not notable. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:35, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Taken to WP:Med. Now, if you excuse, I need to handle some other matters and then get back to this one and source things since you are simply chopping stuff. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:49, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Sourced and expanded with this edit. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:42, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Note: I had to clean up some things regarding that edit. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:11, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Nicely done! Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 11:15, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

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