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28 February 2018
– This SPI case is open.
Suspected sockpuppets
- Elektricity (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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A new account created in 31 October 2017, and FreeatlastChitchat edited for the last time in 1 August 2017. FreeatlastChitchat was heavily watched, reported, blocked for his topic ban violations that's why he quit that account and created a new sock for continuing his disruption.
Elektricity has been totally disruptive from the get-go, just like FreeatlastChitchat.
- Both tried to get Homafaran allegiance deleted.
- Rapidly nominating articles of Saff V. for deletion on both accounts, which is harassment since none of these GNG passing articles were ever deleted and it was a bad nomination.
- FreeatlastChitchat engaged in battle with Mhhossein, constantly harassing him. Elektricity secretively asked Doug Weller that Mhossein should be "restricted to 1 revert per 24 hours".
- Same writing style while pinging the next person as "@]"
- "no hard feelings", "Blp vio."
- "As per TP discussion"
- Restored similar alleged atrocities of army on Indian Army by reverting other editor.
Prefers making revenge reverts and clarify in edit summary that he will fix the problem in "next edit".
On ANEW, FreeatlastChitchat started his comment with "Defence", while Elektricity started with "defence".
Wikihounds long-term editors while spewing his incompetence and then call them a sock puppet to justify his disruption.
He is wikihounding MapSGV and just called him a "throwaway sleeper", just like FreeatlastChitchat had wikihounded D4iNa4 and called him a "sockpuppet account". Despite both these accounts D4iNa4 and MapSGV are much older than his all accounts and they are far more competent than him. Given the fallacy of these remarks, Spartaz had called this comment of FreeatlastChitchat, "well poisoning".
- FreeatlastChitchat: "grand total of "actual" edits in indo-Pak articles", "but they want to be involved in the indo-pak articles"
- Eletricity: "I think the Indo pak articles need a look see by an admin".
Elektricity is harassing MapSGV, by going through pages that he edits because FreeatlastChitchat had worked real hard to censor Indian victory on Siachen conflict and MapSGV has made efforts to restore the result. Since Elektricity is intentionally avoiding this article to evade scrutiny, he is engaging in battle with MapSGV by wikihounding him elsewhere.
Some other similarities:
- Adminshopping NeilN for help.
- Tells people to read his edit before reverting. Illogical, since these editors carefully read before reverting.
- WP:IDHT regarding AFDs on The Bushranger's talk page.
- Canvassing Drmies for help.
- Often puts a dot in the end of edit summary
- Writes a particular word in caps during edit war.
- Switches to visual editor.
Clear WP:DUCK. Capitals00 (talk) 12:12, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
These two accounts have same timings. Elektricity has falsely claimed acquittal while clarifying how he is not a sock below, and saying I had to notify him. This also sounds like a clear WP:DUCK attitude. Before he would set someone for his meat puppetry, I am adding more evidence.
- Elektricity has filed a frivolous complaint against MapSGV, just like FreeatlastChitchat had filed a frivolous complaint against D4iNa4. Both discovered many diffs and misrepresented them in the same fashion and ultimately, FreeatlastChitchat had said "I'd like to recommend an indef", while Electricity asks, "should be Topic banned from India-Pakistan articles indefinitely", and "perhaps a site wide ban".
- Same writing:
- Falsely labels others edits as "WP:TRUTH".
- Falsely claims that he is not really editing India-Pakistan related articles. He claimed below that "Most of my edits are not even on India-Pak articles", similar to, "I have been staying clear of Indo-pak pages".
- Claims that people are "removing" his comments when they did nothing except adding/removing a template.
- Holds grudges against "Indian claims", removes content that he believes is backed by an Indian source. Capitals00 (talk) 13:51, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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Looks like a duck to me. I used to think what happened to him since he seemed too rigid even during his last days when he was trying to change policies to continue his topic ban violation, seems like he never quit and has been using this sock for evading his topic ban. D4iNa4 (talk) 17:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
He abandoned his account in 1 August and after 90 days were elapsed in 31 October he created a new account (Elektricity). He was committed to evading CU. A check on 19 December seems too late. — MapSGV (talk) 01:05, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- defence I see that a user checker has already checked my IP against Freelastchitchat and has given his verdict. The nom should have perhaps informed me ? I think that is given on the top of most reporting boards. The diffs provided by the nominator show that me and the banned abuser only share one edit and that is the deletion of Homafaran allegiance. There is no other edit of the banned user and I have in common. The nom himself admits that I have not even edited in the banned abusers battleground, the article on "Siachen Conflict". Most of my edits are not even on India-Pak articles as you can see from the contributions on my account. Without editing in the banned users area, and without following his pattern of disruption and without being close to his IP, a user cannot be another's sockpuppet. Elektricity (talk) 07:01, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Bbb23 never checked your "IP against Freelastchitchat and has given his verdict". Yes you always disrupt India and Pakistan articles but you try to pose like you have nothing to do with them because contrary will make you look more of a freeatlastchitchat sock that you clearly are! — MapSGV (talk) 07:07, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- @MapSGV I have notified Freealastchitchat, which you did not. If the admins think that enough evidence has been accumulated, they will check my user IP as they did before. The report will be same as before as we are not socks. Elektricity (talk) 11:18, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Why I have to notify that topic banned sockmaster? Looks like you are now going to engage in WP:MEAT puppetry since it is taking you so long to plan these games. You registered this disruption only account after freeatlastchitchat had passed 90 days of inactivity. If that account logs in just to defend himself here using a different IP, that would still not reduce credibility of evidence of sock puppetry. — MapSGV (talk) 11:24, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- @MapSGV I have notified Freealastchitchat, which you did not. If the admins think that enough evidence has been accumulated, they will check my user IP as they did before. The report will be same as before as we are not socks. Elektricity (talk) 11:18, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Bbb23 never checked your "IP against Freelastchitchat and has given his verdict". Yes you always disrupt India and Pakistan articles but you try to pose like you have nothing to do with them because contrary will make you look more of a freeatlastchitchat sock that you clearly are! — MapSGV (talk) 07:07, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Comment @Bbb23:, I have had some interactions with this editor in the past and they definitely did not seem somebody who were new to Misplaced Pages even though their account was created a few month prior to this interaction. The editor was aware of quite a few WP policies and noticeboards. For example, filing a Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement recently and being well aware of its existence and function. This is highly unusual for a new editor. I have never interacted with FreeatlastChitchat and thus will not argue for or against this SPI. Perhaps, the user has a WP:CLEANSTART and might want to clear the air with an admin (though by policy they not required to). Adamgerber80 (talk) 14:11, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Adamgerber80: topic banned users are not allowed to clean start. Whether you know freeatlastchitchat or not, it is impossible for two accounts to share this amount of similarities as well as disruption tactics, unless operated by same person. — MapSGV (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- All that I am stating is, at least to me, there are some unexplained (possible suspicious) things like the users fluent knowledge of Misplaced Pages jargon so shortly after creating the account. Some reasons that this could be attributed to would be a WP:CLEANSTART or that the user is evading a past block or topic ban or something else. Maybe clearing this aspect of their behavior up with an admin would help. I am not an expert on the accused Sock puppeteer and cannot comment on the similarities. Those are for the admins to decide. Adamgerber80 (talk) 17:32, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Got it. Thanks for providing explanation. — MapSGV (talk) 17:39, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- All that I am stating is, at least to me, there are some unexplained (possible suspicious) things like the users fluent knowledge of Misplaced Pages jargon so shortly after creating the account. Some reasons that this could be attributed to would be a WP:CLEANSTART or that the user is evading a past block or topic ban or something else. Maybe clearing this aspect of their behavior up with an admin would help. I am not an expert on the accused Sock puppeteer and cannot comment on the similarities. Those are for the admins to decide. Adamgerber80 (talk) 17:32, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Adamgerber80: topic banned users are not allowed to clean start. Whether you know freeatlastchitchat or not, it is impossible for two accounts to share this amount of similarities as well as disruption tactics, unless operated by same person. — MapSGV (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Both accounts had interactions with me. Is it not a 'duck' case? He don't seem to be a new comer. --Mhhossein 19:27, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
See this report.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:47, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
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