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List of wars involving Libya

Please quit vandalising this article with claims contradicting the main articles. If you seriously believe that Idi Amin won the Uganda-Tanzania War, please raise this claim on the relevant discussion page rather than messing up the list. The same goes for the Libyan-Egyptian War and the Chadian-Libyan Conflict. Best, --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 16:36, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Meant to correct only the Libyan–Egyptian War, which was not won by either. MapSGV (talk) 16:58, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Egypt repelled the Libyan invasion, and furthermore seized Libyan territory. Please see the discussion page. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 17:00, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

ARBIPA

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The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

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About that move you've made

Look on this website and tell me that it's still known as "Concord Bicycle Music". King Shadeed February 28, 2018 19:42 EDT

WP:CPMOVE. Ask for a page move, because histories of the article are preserved to minimize copyright issues. Cut paste moves are discouraged. — MapSGV (talk) 00:45, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Since when?? I couldn't move the page days ago since the article already existed. Have you ever tried moving the article yourself?? And perhaps checking this website too. King Shadeed February 28, 2018 19:49 EDT

Only admins can do it. Try Misplaced Pages:Requested moves#Technical requests, but until then revert your cut paste moves because they violate copyrights, otherwise I will. — MapSGV (talk) 00:51, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

I said "when", not "what". King Shadeed February 28, 2018 19:55 EDT

You still haven't answered my question. "When" and "what" are two different things. And someone had already started a post in the talk page about the rename a while back where I got the link from. February 28, 2018 20:11 EDT

I have described further on your talk page. — MapSGV (talk) 01:14, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Okay, again. I said "I couldn't move the page days ago since the article already existed." I know I said that. February 28, 2018 20:23 EDT

Misplaced Pages:Requested moves#Technical requests is where you need to add your request. — MapSGV (talk) 01:25, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Your edits at Tourism

You are not allowed to edit my RFC. Elektricity (talk) 04:51, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

You are a sock but. MapSGV (talk) 04:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

MapSGV you should take such accusations to the SPI, I am sure an admin will check my IP and remove your concerns. Other than that, you should stop personal attacks. Elektricity (talk) 04:54, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

You plan to disrupt Misplaced Pages until you are blocked? Aren't you done of disrupting Misplaced Pages for so many years already? Shame on you. — MapSGV (talk) 04:56, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Arbitration

Due to your personal attacks and hostile behavior I have had to create an Arbitration request against you. Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement Elektricity (talk) 07:05, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Read my above comment. MapSGV 19, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

March 2018

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See this AE thread. This is a normal block, not an AE block. But if the user is unblocked, I anticipate imposing an AE topic ban. Sandstein 22:39, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

@Sandstein: Would you like to point out diffs of "harassment" because I am the only one who is being harassed with false accusations of sock puppetry so far. — MapSGV (talk) 23:36, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

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Can I have my block appealed at ANI if I write an unblock request? — MapSGV (talk) 23:47, 1 March 2018 (UTC)|

No. This is a regular block imposed by a single admin. Another admin will read your appeal and decide what to do. --NeilN 01:02, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

@NeilN: I think MapSGV is talking about having his block reviewed in ANI, given the many problems with the block. This happens often. Though I believe that sitting out the block until the SPI would be fine but in the same time I don't see a reason why he had to be indeffed even if the filer is not a a sock. Maybe MapSGV can decide. Lorstaking (talk) 02:36, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes I need my block reviewed in ANI because backlog of unblock requests seems too big and I am confident that I was blocked for no reason. — MapSGV (talk) 02:41, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

@Lorstaking: Appeals are not handled at ANI. If you think Sandstein blocked inappropriately then you can raise it at WP:AN. --NeilN 03:10, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I will wait for a few hours and if Sandstein responds then it will depend on his reply whether the block should be up for review on AN or not. Maybe he saw something that none of us have, but I really doubt. Lorstaking (talk) 03:37, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

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• Sandstein you clearly acted on a spurious report filed by an obvious sock puppet in place of treating it as spurious or blocking the filer as a sock. Are you really encouraging people not to return to Misplaced Pages after they have quit for sometime or act competent? User in question was dealing with a blatant wikihounding sock puppet of a topic ban evading editor. Why you didn't sanctioned the offending users for their incompetence and article disruption while singled out MapSGV who made fair criticism of incompetence that prevailed around him? The reported diffs were nothing but responses to personal attacks made on him and none of his statements constituted even a single "personal attack" let alone "attempting to harass" users as you are spuriously putting. And no, we dont sanction competent editors for disruptive incompetent editors. Lorstaking (talk) 01:36, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
• @Sandstein: Seems excessive, don't you think? Might you reconsider the duration?--Dlohcierekim (talk) 04:21, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

@NeilN: As you say, perhaps. But I've never reversed another admin w/o discussion, and I think discussion is warranted. Thoughts?--Dlohcierekim (talk) 04:25, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

@Dlohcierekim: The first step is usually discussion with the blocking admin (there's an unblock on hold template for that) but this is already at WP:AN. --NeilN 04:35, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

• Hmm..The block is not as worse as the AN thread made it look like.
• @Sandstein:, despite quasi-agreeing with the signal-to-noise ratio, I will ask you to reconsider the duration of the block (~ 1 week looks okay to me) unless and until MapSVG chooses to refrain from casting random aspersions/PAs on the motives of other users and promises to utilize SPI as the place to discuss socking-activities, rather than the article t/p.~ Winged Blades 05:50, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

It is better to report personal attacks than replying them. But from Sandstein comment you can figure that he believes it's alright to call someone a sock puppet because they have low edit count but they are aware of Misplaced Pages guidelines, it seems that he would have never acted if I had reported those personal attacks in first place. He is clearly saying that it's fine for others to call me a sock and degrade the quality of arguments but I can't say anything even if next one is a blatant sock. — MapSGV (talk) 06:11, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Hmm..The socking-stuff is not quite so simple as segregating into black and white.My experience in ARBIPA is both the warring factions of editor(s) that usually shows up at these pages And, I emphasise the word faction somehow thinks every other editor opposing him is a sock, with the utmost confidence and vigor.And, if you're offended by Sandstein's comment about your edit count, you ought to remember the old saying--People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at others.~ Winged Blades 06:26, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

All that being said, I agree that the indef was way too harsh.~ Winged Blades 06:28, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Ouch. I know you are angry, but please stop deepening the hole.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 06:23, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

You both seem correct and I totally agreed. On ARE, it seems that conduct of all parties is observed, but I was just singled out. I said above that it was better to report the false allegations than replying them, and in addition to that I was just casting my doubt if Sandstein would have taken any action, given his comments. That's all. This all could've been done without any blocking or warning as well. — MapSGV (talk) 06:34, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

WP:AN: Block for review

Per the discussion here, I have opened a thread on WP:AN, here is the link of the thread that involves you. Lorstaking (talk) 04:26, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

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