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"Dutch language, spoken in Aruba, Belgium, Curaçao, the Netherlands, Sint Maarten, and Suriname." Speling12345 (talk) 3:52, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

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Change of a misleading example

In the subsection on Consonants, the last sentence of the first paragraph had a misleading German example. The t of Brot is the result of the High German sound shift and has nothing to do with final-obstruent devoicing, as proved by the plural Brote. Brot has underlying final t. I have replaced the example by one that does not have this problem, but not being familiar with the conventions involving braces, I haven’t used them. Feel free to change the notation if this is desirable. Polla ta deina (talk) 14:53, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

letter frequency

A comparison of letter frequency between Dutch, English and German

This picture is incomplete and misleading:

Which English is considered? Real English (with -re and -ise), US English (with -er and -ize), another type, all types? Obviously US English has z more often than real English.
German has more letters, namely ä, ö, ü, ß. Due to technical limitations ä can be replaced by ae etc. But is ä simply misleadingly omitted, is it missleadingly treated as ae, is it incorrectly treated as a?
What time is considered? Before ca. 1900 German often used th instead of t. So obviously h was more common before 1900 than after 1900.
What's the source? Picture description page only has "Source: Own work", does that mean it's original research?

-84.161.33.192 (talk) 06:50, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Agree without source this picture is not acceptable. Especially in the context of which English (if it were British English the U frequency seems somewhat low - colour etc), if it is American English the z frequency is impossibly low. Also how do we count diphones (e.g. Dutch has a lot of "double" vowels (ee, ie, ou) where German uses umlauts - and what happens with those? For now I do not think the figure should be in until it is clear what data is used to create it. Arnoutf (talk) 11:09, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Van Dale, headwords

There is a contradiction between this page giving more than 200 000 headwords to the Van Dale and the Van Dale page giving 90 000. --Dominique Meeùs (talk) 04:55, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Germanic dialects map

Archeological cultures

This map needs to be removed because it peddles the same myths about the Germanic peoples that were circulated in the 19th and early 20th centuries. For one, how can you draw such clear borders between supposed ancient "Germanic" dialects if no written record of them exists?! Also, archeological evidence show a different picture all together, with many inhabited areas referred to as "cultures' because they can't be linked with certainty to any specific group of peoples. --E-960 (talk) 10:48, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Help needed with an ancient dtch book

It's some months now I've been working on the XVII century "Euclides Danicus" book, by Gerog Mohr. For some reasons, I build a new PDF file, 40 text pages + 8 drawing pages. The problem is to do the OCR, since ancient Dutch uses some "strange" characters I don't know which unicode to replace with. Here there are some examples:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/aldoaldoz/38799385520/

The yellow background are related to a char similar to an F (beFtaende, eerFte) which in modern dutch should py replaced by an S;
pink background: "ct";
green background: the "long S", which is no more used in modern dutch.

I'd like to do the OCR the best way possible, so that the ancient language is preserved at best (actually I don't konw to translate it into modern Dutch). So the questions are: which unicode chars should I use? Is there someone can help me, or can tell me someone to ask? Thanks in advance --Aldoaldoz (talk) 10:30, 4 March 2018 (UTC)