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Hi again. On behalf of MicroStrategy, I have drafted a new Recognition section that I think should replace the existing Awards and recognition section. Currently, material in Awards and recognition is cited to: a press release, a rewrite of a press release, and a primary source. While MicroStrategy has received plenty of recognition over time, including awards, it's best that this section focus on those which have been the subject of reliable, third-party sources that are independent of the firm and recognizing body (which, ideally, are notable themselves). That's what I present here.
Since MicroStrategy is a client and I therefore have a financial conflict of interest, I will not edit this article directly and am seeking other editors' input and assistance in replacing Awards and recognition with the following:
Recognition Recognition Forrester Research named MicroStrategy a leader in its 2013 report "Forrester Wave for Enterprise Business Intelligence Platforms", citing its architecture and mobile business intelligence, and in its 2017 report "The Forrester Wave: Enterprise BI Platforms With Majority On-Premises Deployments" for its focus on business intelligence and cross-product integration. Gartner named MicroStrategy among the leaders on its Magic Quadrant for Business Intelligence and Analytics Platforms in 2014 and 2015. Gartner said MicroStrategy was one of the companies that typically ranks high in governance, administration and scalability. Recognition markup==Recognition==
It is my hope that others will agree the proposal here is NPOV and will serve readers with accurate, updated information verified in independent sources. Thanks for your consideration. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 17:52, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
References
- Roe, David (22 January 2014). "Forrester Names SAP IBM SAS Microsoft Tops in BI". CMS Wire. Retrieved 9 February 2018.
- Backaitis, Virginia (13 September 2017). "Forrester Raises the Bar for Enterprise BI Platforms With Latest Wave". CMS Wire. Retrieved 5 March 2018.
- ^ Henschen, Doug (26 February 2014). "Gartner BI Magic Quadrant: Winners & Losers". InformationWeek. Retrieved 9 February 2018.
- Henschen, Doug (25 February 2015). "Gartner BI Magic Quadrant 2015 Spots Market Turmoil". InformationWeek. Retrieved 9 February 2018.
Reply 05-MAR-2018
Declined These awards offer the results of analyses on closed, industry-specific systems, featuring subjective metrics and poorly formed or delineated outcomes (i.e., Best in industry, Most outstanding etc.). The sources you have provided are not reliable third party sources. They are from marketing and advertising publications with deep connections to the industry. Any problems suffered by the article through its current award subheading would easily be resolved — not through updating — but through deleting the entire subheading. Spintendo 19:44, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Spintendo, a few clarifications:
- FWIW, these aren't "awards" per se, which is why I'd suggested to remove that word from the section heading.
- The recognizing bodies are Forrester Research and Gartner, which anyone in business will tell you are two of the most important market research companies around. Naturally, their analyses will be "closed, industry-specific" and even "subjective"—it's not necessary that you or I think them correct, but to allow that they are taken seriously in the business world.
- I also dispute your description of the sources provided: of course they have "deep connections to the industry"—they are trade publications, after all. It's silly to hold the source of their authority against them. And InformationWeek has even had its own Misplaced Pages article since 2006.
- For these reasons, I'd like to ask you to reconsider this hasty declination. WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:53, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Reply 18-MAR-2018
"Of course they have 'deep connections to the industry'—they are trade publications, after all."
These awards/recognitions, having originated in trade publications, are more suited to the readership of those publications than they are to Misplaced Pages's readership. Pedagogically speaking, Misplaced Pages's readership audience is much more diverse, in age and understanding. Many readers would likely have no idea what any of these subjective evaluations meant. If you're able to locate the specific methadologies used in each instance to arrive at the rankings shown in the proposal — including detailed descriptions of the data and metrics used to rank these recognitions — then I would be more than happy to reconsider. Regards, Spintendo 15:05, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Spintendo: I'm sorry, but you are inventing requirements for inclusion that do not exist in Misplaced Pages guidelines. Nevertheless, it's clear to me that you are not going to reconsider. Consider yourself free of any obligation to continue this discussion. WWB Too (Talk · COI) 20:14, 20 March 2018 (UTC)