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No mention of Fluor's nuclear waste operation. This entry reads like a press release ~~ memetank
Article Expansion
Additional facts of their operation citing the 5 major groups of the company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinkbeforeyoupost (talk • contribs) 22:38, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Naomi Klein discusses Fluor extensively in her book The Shock Doctrine, in relation to no-bid contracts and with reconstructive efforts, specifically with the war in Iraq and Hurricane Katrina. Klein's stance is critical but well-developed in one of her more popular works, and should be mentioned in the article.
Bias in article
It's pretty obvious that this article is being edited by someone who represents Fluor and is trying to promote the company. This has been reverted several times by various users but it invariably returns again and again. This is not the place for corporate marketing, so cut it out! SirLamer 22:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
This piece doesn't bother to mention there is no mention of the very large presence that Fluor has in Iraq. Is that not significant or are they trying to hid it?
23:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)~
It's a copy of their about page
See http://www.fluor.com/about/default.asp (accessed 23 March 2007).
Definitely not neutral in its content either.
Corp?
Why was this moved from Fluor to Fluor Corp. ? Articles on other corporations don't have "Corp." in their name. See: Microsoft, Dell, Johnson and Johnson, Jacobs Engineering Group. Actually, I can't find one other company with "Corp." in their article name. Harksaw 15:11, 15 May 2007 (UTC) Never mind. Misplaced Pages:Naming_conventions#Companies Harksaw 15:15, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
- Still, why "Corp." rather than "Corporation"? —Tamfang (talk) 17:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, use "Corporation" instead of Corp." much formal and appropriate —Thinkbeforeyoupost
14:13, 10 May 2011 (GMT)
- Initiate a page move discussion here and, if nobody object, move it in due time. If there is objections, you might have to go through the proper motions. Calistemon (talk) 18:29, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Requested move
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Fluor Corp. → Fluor Corporation – To give this company an appropriate name that is not conflicting with the name of the mineral fluor and fluoride. . Mksolmoro (talk) 18:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- Support: Seems the right name to me. Calistemon (talk) 19:01, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- Support: thanks mksolmoro for the motion. Google search suggests "Fluor" alone or "Fluor Corporation." Search result "Fluor Corp." was only from wikipedia. Thinkbeforeyoupost
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Draft
I am affiliated with Fluor Corp. and have offered a draft of a substantially improved version of the article at the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard here for consideration/review/feedback by impartial editors. I wanted to also post here on the Talk page in case there are editors with this page on their watchlist that want to discuss the new material. CorporateM (Talk) 21:47, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- From my edit summary at article page: "Sub in CorporateM draft as discussed at this talk page, COI noticeboard and at article draft. Please revert me if you do not agree" North8000 (talk) 19:22, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
- For general reference and archival purposes, I've copy/pasted the discussion about the re-write of the article that took place in my user-space below. There are also some comments on the COIN board that will get archived there eventually. BTW - I noticed when user:Ukexpat updated the article to C-class that it is marked as "low importance" in Wikiproject Companies, which I thought was unusual for a Fortune 110 company to be of low importance, though I do not know what criterion are used for evaluating it. CorporateM (Talk) 20:46, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
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Just a note that I am reading this over, and comparing it to what is now at Fluor Corporation. I'll give more detailed feedback soon(-ish). My first quick thought is that this looks much, much better than what is live. I'm afraid I won't be much help in determining whether or not it will be good enough for GA but I can at least lend my support as an unbiased editor without a COI. -- Atama頭 22:00, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Below is the material that didn't make it into my draft, because it wasn't sourced well-enough. For the Notable projects section, I mostly looked for jobs included in profiles that summarize their most important jobs, with some exceptions where the item was covered in a lot of media. However it wasn't always clear which projects to include. I was really on the fence with the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge project for example.
CorporateM (Talk) 23:10, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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Suggest adding a "See also" section with a link to the Misplaced Pages page on NuScale Power. It is mentioned in this page that Fluor has a majority interest in it. CorporateM (Talk) 17:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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The current article states: "According to the company website, Fluor has four primary business groups....". The website has been updated to reflect that the company is now organized into six segments. That being said, I think breaking down all six segments in bullets as is done now for four segments is too much. As such, I suggest the following more concise replacement for that sentence and all four bullets.
- According to Fluor's 2013 annual report, 57 percent of its work backlog is from the oil and gas industry. According to the company's website, Fluor's work includes designing and building power plants, petrochemical factories, mining facilities, roads and bridges, government buildings, and manufacturing facilities. The company also performs nuclear cleanup and other services.
I can update the annual report reference each year as a non-controversial edit with the latest numbers. CorporateM (Talk) 21:29, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
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Suggest adding construction of the Tappan Zee Bridge over the Hudson river to the "Notable Projects" section.
- "In December 2012, Fluor was awarded a $3.14 billion contract to build the Tappan Zee Bridge over the Hudson River."
The Notable Projects section is just a concise summary of the most significant works, but as a $3 billion project covered in national media like Bloomberg, this seemed like it was significant enough to mention.
Also, the current Lede says "in four areas: energy and chemicals, industrial and infrastructure, government and Fluor Global Services such as staffing and equipment rentals." I suggest we replace this with the industries mentioned in Fluor's annual report: oil & gas, industrial & infrastructure, government and power. David King, Ethical Wiki (Talk) 14:22, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
References
- 2013 Annual Report (PDF), Fluor Corporation, retrieved January 15, 2015
- Business Segments, Fluor, retrieved January 1, 2014
- Klopott, Freeman; Schoifet, Mark (December 5, 2012). "Tappan Zee Bridge Panel Said to Back $3.14 Billion Fluor Bid". Bloomberg.com. Retrieved September 24, 2015.
- Done. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:17, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Recent acquisition
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Requesting Fluor's recent acquisition be added. Some potential text is below, cited to Reuters:
"Fluor acquired an engineering and construction firm based in the Netherlands called Stork for $755 million in March 2016. Stork mostly modifies and maintains large power plants."
David King, Ethical Wiki (CorporateM) (Talk) 21:59, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- The proposed acquisition was already in the article, along with one of the suggested references. I edited the article to indicate that the acquisition has been closed, identify the main business, the amount involved in the acquisition and add the other reference.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:08, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
References
- "Fluor to buy Stork of the Netherlands for $755 million". Reuters. December 7, 2015. Retrieved March 4, 2016.
- "Fluor finalizes acquisition of Dutch industrial services group Stork - March 2016". Hydrocarbon Processing. March 4, 2016. Retrieved March 4, 2016.
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Someone added the following text to the bottom of the article
Fluor recently took over as the primary contractor at Plant Vogtle (Bechtel took over vogtle in August 2017), Units 3 & 4, and V.C. Summer (v.c summer got shut down. all work stopped in August 2017), Units 2 & 3. CB&I previously had the contract.
The content is unsourced and sounds likely to be written from personal knowledge. There are some sources about Fluor's work with Vogtle, but none that indicate it was a major historical milestone that would amount to something more than listing every project Fluor works on. As I have a COI, I would like to request another editor trim the content.
Pinging @TLSuda: who did the GA review back in 2014. CorporateM (Talk) 14:33, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Reply 05-MAR-2018
The passage you mention as being problematic is actually 2 seperately added claim statements. The first, most recent part of the claim was added in August of last year. The second part predates August of 2017. My questions:
- Which part of this two-part claim statement are you disputing?
- Where are the references for either of these claims?
In light of these discrepancies it may be necessary to revoke the GA status and begin anew with a more lengthy, and thoroughly complete GA review. Please advise.
Regards, Spintendo 19:24, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
The unsourced addition was made in October 2016, and updated later. I've removed it pending someone finding sourcing that indicates it merits inclusion. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:48, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
- I am going to second (or third as it were) that removal, Flour is a massive EPCM company, and there is no conceivable reason we should be including anecdotal information about specific contracts, of which they probably have thousands on the books at the moment. The subject of the GA re-review is another question. --kelapstick 16:56, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
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