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Ektron

Confused about your deletion of Ektron. Documentum has its own page, as does Drupal, Mambo, etc. All sorts of software packages have their own pages. Ektron is probably the most popular commercial WCM system in the world (they have 15,000 installations), and they employ 70 people up in Amherst.

It was a recreation of a previously deleted page and read more like an advert than an article. See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ektron. Angela.

Thank you

Hello Angela, Thank you for your comments regarding Lostpedia in the recent Deletion Review. I appreciate the support! --Kevincroy 09:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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Brahma Kumaris Discussion page

Hello Angela, I just wanted to state the reason I placed the posting in the discussion page.

The first being that in the past the Braham Kumaris members delete their talk pages and hide the history of events. The second being that the following actually is on topic, some of which they have sought to have deleted and others that have yet to be introduced into the article. So, that was the reason for placing it there, as the history will document there is a pattern of personal attacks upon anyone that brings forth these issues:

• Child Abuse
• Child sexual abuse
• Ex-Member attempting suicide
• Ex-Members committing suicide
• Member being asked to break all contact with their families
• Ex-Members having severe psychological problems due to the Tenets/Teachings/Indoctrination
• Ex-Members not being offered any Exit counseling.....
• Destruction

So, I shall see how long it stays on his talk page. I don't delete what they place on mine. RegardsTalkAbout 15:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

If you're concerned about replies being deleted, you could keep your reply on your own talk page and rely on the other person having that page watchlisted and seeing the reply there. Perhaps the reason people don't keep your messages is because they feel you are attacking them, in which case it's perfectly reasonable to remove those. Angela. 16:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Help please

Hi Angela,

please can you tell me how to add a link that will link to my skype account, where users can just click the link and it redirects them to my skype call.. the htm code is usually callto://username

regards

simon

SkypeMe:YourSkypeId should start working soon since I just added it to the Interwiki map. Angela. 02:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanx for the info, will it only work when they upgrade the wiki software? Please let me know when it is working, just tried to add it to wiki webpage but it doesn't work. Thanx for the help.

regards simon

The interwiki map used to update every 10 minutes. That's no longer the case and it needs to manually updated. However, Tim Starling thinks it shouldn't be there since it's not a wiki (though Wikia have done it that way for years). He's made it so you can use instead. Angela. 07:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanx for the help, neither nor SkypeMe:YourSkypeId works.

i know that this isnt a wiki, but neither is a link to an external website or an email address. this is a way of contacting the author of the post. If you find a method of making this work please post it here, thanx again for taking the time to respond. regards - simon ps.the site i would like to use this on is www.goplett.co.za

Don't put the <nowiki> tags around it. I just did that to demonstrate the code to you. displays as which does work. You can also do which displays as or the plain callto://skypeID on its own.

I thought you were asking me about using this on Misplaced Pages. I can't make it work on a non-Wikia site. You need to fix that yourself. Find wherever the mailto handling is and adapt that file, or install your own interwiki map. Angela. 11:41, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanx for this info, i will look into fixing the problem, sorry i asked when its a non wiki site, the reason i asked is because it uses wiki software.. anyway thanx again for the help, will try to fix it and let you know if i fixed it, regards simon

You might find the MediaWiki mailing list a better place to ask this sort of question. Angela. 15:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

It was working last week, but Brion disabled it, so I suggest you use the Interwiki map approach on your own wiki. Angela. 14:34, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Tit for Tat NPA?

Hi Angela,
Since your intervention regarding the forest fire (User_talk:TalkAbout#NPA) I replied to the post in a way I felt appropriate and received a return NPA on my talk page User_talk:Bksimonb. As I see it I was merely advising that ranting on the article discussion page (that you removed) is not desirable. I would really appreciated it if you could let me know if you feel the NPA against me is bogus or if I did indeed go too far. I will then know whether to reject the NPA or apologise and accept it as appropriate. If it is inappropriate do I just delete it?
Regards Bksimonb 12:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by reject an NPA. NPA is policy and you need to adhere to it, not find ways around it to offend people. Angela.

Hi Angela, sorry that was a bad choice of words on my part and also ambiguous. I meant to ask what to do if I strongly suspect an {{npa2}} has been issued to me where no breach of NPA took place ] i.e. I have not actually intended to nor believe I actually carried out a personal attack or to offend.

Certainly my response to talkabout ] was strongly worded and assertive but I thought it appropriate to make it clear to User:Talkabout that I object to,

• Repeated false allocations of wrongdoing ]]],
• Presumption of bad faith ,
• Implied guilt by association of other editors activities,
• Plastering the accusation on the article discussion page (forest fire).

The allegations and presumption of bad faith have continued right up until the latest post by Talkabout, 'What I see here is that you are trying to work the system to hide your true practices, to suit your PR needs under a shield of "verifiable" sources approved by your members, while leaving others out that are quite legitimate.'

I hope you appreciate that it is not much fun being the subject of a smear campaign and right now I would just like the personal attacks to stop. I have no personal interest in finding out who Talkabout really is nor do I see any need to abuse Misplaced Pages. All I have ever tried to accomplish is an article to normal encyclopedic standards because I am confident that in itself will result in a more balanced article on the BKWSU.

Right now the immediate problem (apart from the article itself) is a lack of civility on the talk page. I am trying to address this by what I understand to be the correct procedures. I would be grateful for any advice you can offer on how best to proceed.

Thanks & regards Bksimonb 14:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I have a question

The administrator of catalan wiktionary doesn't connect never. The problem is that we have one administrator so we don't edit the special pages. As a result, it's impossible improve wiktionary. Do you understand me? Can you help me?

Sorry, for mistakes. KRLS (talk me) (UTC)

I've replied at w:ca:Usuari Discussió:KRLS. Angela. 14:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

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Open proxy?

Hi Glen. I was just wondering how you knew this user was editing through an open proxy. I saw Dancing for Darfur listed for speedy deletion and thought it was worth saving for the Darfur Wiki, but perhaps not if the user is being problematic. I'd appreciate more information on this. Thanks. Angela. 13:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

It was pointed out to me in the admin channel by an observant user. If you check their contribs here you'll notice the backslashing... I dont know why but when users edit though open proxys they appear everywhere (I even tried to confirm).

Do you think this may be in error? Of course, feel free to unblock, or I would be happy to if this is the case. Thanks Angela Glen 13:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

If they're in Darfur, they may have a perfectly valid reason for using an open proxy. I'm not aware of any edits other than that article being created (and only once), so the block before they've had a chance to respond to the first warning seems unfair. It's only using open proxies maliciously that's a problem, not using them in general, unless there has been previous spamming of this domain that I'm unaware of. Angela. 13:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

The user obviously noticed the blackslashes, as he went to remove some of it, but just kept producing more of them. That was the second thing I noticed when tagging the article. — CharlotteWebb 13:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Proxies that cause backslashes are generally blocked for that effect (doing article damage that the user can't actually control) rather than on principle. — CharlotteWebb 13:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Ok my apologies. Policy states "Users are forbidden from editing Wikimedia projects through open or anonymous proxies." and that they may be indef blocked by any admin at any time so I have never actually looked to see if they are used abusively or not. I will unblock the user, and explain the error on my part. Thanks Glen 13:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Charlotte's point makes sense. Blocking them for the damage to articles, even if accidental, is a good idea, though the block message should explain this, and not imply they were blocked for wrong doing so as to not bite the newbies. :) (which I see you've now done) Angela. 13:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Edit conflict. Okay, sorted. I have explained here and unblocked accordingly. Again, my apologies Glen 13:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Additional: Understood. I did offer a brief explanation in the block summary "user editing via an open proxy" but yes, my bad. Glen 13:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)