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Neutrality of social media section
Editors of the article's social media section have been less than punctilious in adhering to WP:BLP constraints, especially in citing dubious sources. Editors should be alert to potential violations of WP:NPOV here. KalHolmann (talk) 03:16, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Have you got a source for him not being transphobic, because I'd really like to see it - on the other hand, there's this from 2016 https://medium.com/@AlexaEphemera/its-time-to-call-out-graham-linehan-s-ugly-transphobia-30b15be317a5 No-genius (talk) 16:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- A blog at Medium by a self-described "LGBTQ+ Rights Activist and Anti-Racist Feminist" is not a WP:RS. It is her singular opinion, nothing more. KalHolmann (talk) 17:52, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Would his own words be an acceptable source, as they are with regards to other topics in the article? https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1007218228752539648 ChungusConsulting (talk) 02:42, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Can you honestly find no third-party published reliable source reporting that Graham Linehan is a transphobe? KalHolmann (talk) 20:14, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Honestly? No. This isn't an issue that has been reported on, so of course: I cannot find a third-party published reliable source reporting that Graham Linehan is a transphobe. I can only show you him calling gender reassignment surgery 'mutilation' which I confidently believe to be transphobia whichever way you cut it. With respect this really seems like you are jumping through hoops to avoid discussing something which is very present in Graham Linehan's daily dialogue, and relevant to the discussion. I'd have liked to help so that this relevant feature about Graham Linehan could be included on his wiki page - but appreciate you're unwilling to let that happen. ChungusConsulting (talk) 02:42, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Can you honestly find no third-party published reliable source reporting that Graham Linehan is a transphobe? KalHolmann (talk) 20:14, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- I hope we can find a way to write about this. It feels relevant to me, in that I see LGBTQ+ writers and activists posting examples of his transphobia constantly on Twitter. It's well-known and well-documented, but because there's not a lot of visibility for the community in traditional press, and there's a generalized disdain for social media, it doesn't fit neatly into WP:RS (from what I can tell). But people do know what they're talking about - and multiple verified users have pointed to Linehan's transphobia (search "linehan transphobia" and you'll see blue checkmarks as you scroll). A lot of marginalized communities organize and publicize primarily on social media for understandable reasons, and I'm not really happy with removing what is a big part of his online and social presence (he argues with trans activists all the time, and has an outsized impact on the UK trans community in particular) from the article. If we can't reference his (well-documented, clear) transphobia in any way that's considered reliable, would it be acceptable to make a simple statement of fact that he considers "TERF" to be a slur (search "terf from:glinner" on Twitter, for example) and actively defends a trans-exclusive definition of womanhood? That would convey important information about his transphobia to readers well-versed enough to pick up on it, though it's not as clear and direct as I would prefer. KingHanksley (talk) 13:37, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
- has a recent Twitter thread documenting Linehan's transphobia. I can't link out to Twitter from here but you can find it on her timeline with the first posted dated June 13th. KingHanksley (talk) 13:44, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
WP:COATRACK
Here's something else on him, from a source with a Misplaced Pages article no less (Gay Star News) - No, bi people are not ‘appropriating gay culture’
Not transphobia, but very closely related 195.147.228.111 (talk) 23:02, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Please don't delete things from the talk page discussing why facts backed by sources keep getting removed from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.13.20.60 (talk) 13:58, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Please see your talk page. Poorly sourced potentially libelous material will be removed from the article and/or the talk page per WP:BLP. Toddst1 (talk) 14:02, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- I used a decent source. It had also been reported in the Daily Mail and The Times. It's a fact. Deal with it. Graham Linehan was reported to the police. If you disagree please state why you think someone being reported to the police is an opinion and not a fact.
why are linehan's opinions on trans people not touched on at all in this article?
his (exclusionary) stance on trans people is basically his entire social media presence at this point. several sources have confirmed he has received a formal warning from the police regarding his social media activity.
discussing this isn't libellous. libel implies a false statement. —mountainhead / ? 15:07, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Discussing per WP:BLPTALK. Toddst1 (talk) 15:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC)