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Danny (Tourettes Guy)

This is a joke. Why did you delete this immediately? Have you no brain? This is more popular than Numa Numa and LeeRoy Jenkins, and both of those are wikipedia articles. Check yourself. You Misplaced Pages admins are a joke. You must get hurt every time an article is made. You should be ashamed!!!!!!!! Talk to me about this, we are not finished. Sportsguru9999 22:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree, Tourettes Guy is better than you! 75.31.102.186 22:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

The deletion review system is completely flawed, we tried putting under the deletion review already. Here is what happened: Those for overturning Tourettes Guy gave many points for overturning that made a lot of sense and proved that the deletion should be overturned. However, there were obviously more admins that flocked over to each say the same thing, that the AfD was valid. It offered no value and no proof that it should stay deleted. I guess since so many admins followed each other and were offended by having an article like this, the concluder, also an admin, decided to endorse the deletion. I hope you see that this is completely flawed, and another AfD should be created, because the already concluded AfD's are unfair, and the Deletion Review article was unfair. I hope you read all of this and that you will discuss this with me. As you can tell I am very stressed out by the fact that Tourettes Guy is not an article. Sportsguru9999 23:00, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I am really frusterated with wikipedia admins, and you are the first to help me in any way. I know that there are thousands of you, a lot of which abuse their power. I hope something can happen for this. Thanks again. Sportsguru9999 23:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Bah

I came here to award you an Anti-Vandalism Barnstar in relation to your efforts protecting Virtuti Militari the day it was a "Today's FA". However, I see you've already been given an A-V Barnstar today, and I don't want to be responsible for your head exploding. Suffice it to say, your efforts are both noticed and appreciated. Thanks for your dedication! PS - The one thing that drives me crazy is the number of times I've lost edit conflicts to you while RC Patrolling; dang you are fast! --Doc Tropics 23:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Give an article a chance

Yeah, that's what I was going for. Thanks! Kurt Weber 00:00, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Survey Q

Have you ever been to the southern hemisphere, click here to reply.AstroBoy 01:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC) Deadline for entries is December 15th

Super Bowl

You're a genius! Obviously that's why they pay you the big admin bucks! I should have thought of that myself. -- Jim Douglas (contribs) 04:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Do they have like secret initiation rituals? Yeah, I think I've seen that cabal's work recently on Saddam Hussein and Donald Rumsfeld. Strangely, they never seem to have the time to stick around and clean up the vandalism that starts up the instant a target article like that is unprotected. -- Jim Douglas (contribs) 04:35, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Can you please check into the recent vandalism of Misplaced Pages pages for bands Long Shot Hero, Last Martyrs of a Lost Cause as well a page I did on lead singer Christopher Irons. I guess someone who doesn't like the band keeps going in, deleting things and changing details. It's one of the few articles I have finally learned enough Wiki to make and it's annoying that it keeps getting messed up. Thanks in advance for your help

71.224.251.119 10:01, 11 November 2006 (UTC)evan!

Please help a new editor...

Can you please check into the recent vandalism of Misplaced Pages pages for bands Long Shot Hero, Last Martyrs of a Lost Cause as well a page I did on lead singer Christopher Irons. I guess someone who doesn't like the band keeps going in, deleting things and changing details. It's one of the few articles I have finally learned enough Wiki to make and it's annoying that it keeps getting messed up. Thanks in advance for your help

71.224.251.119 10:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC)evan!

Thanx for ur kind advice, I will not do this in future

sorry —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gauravs100 (talkcontribs) 11 November 2006.

Hello

well I am not frustated but that guy User:Wknight94 had tagged the pictures taken by me for sppedy deletion Now I think that wikipedia is just for reading purpose and there is no use in contributing to it.

I thought moderator must be polite in his working but User:Wknight94 doesn't fullfill that criterian finally to say that moderator must act like you not his way

Thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gauravs100 (talkcontribs) .

First, thanks Luna Santin, for reverting the vandalism to my user page. Gauravs100, you're welcome to contribute constructively to Misplaced Pages. So far, your contributons amount to a blatant spam article, four orphaned images, and numerous vandalism edits to my user page. Those are not constructive. —Wknight94 (talk) 13:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok wknight94 I got ur point. Sorry for editing your page many times actually I got furious. I am thankful to you to make me aware that my contribution are under the category of vandalism. In future I will definitly try to contibute constructively Take care bye —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gauravs100 (talkcontribs) .

User:Thor-ax the impaler block

Thanks for blocking this persistent vandal...Just curious: Was there a reason you didn't plant something on his talk page? Jay Maynard 13:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the block. Maybe this will get his attention. The Freakazoid! page has to deal with a fair amount of this (and a lot more before it was semi-protected); that particular bit of vandalism is a 4chan in-joke. I monitor the page regularly, and post warnings and request blocks for those who vandalize it; it's nice to know that the requests get results. Jay Maynard 18:19, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

User:24.150.148.91

That anon keeps making personal attacks on me, and writing bullshit in my talk page. Can you do something about that? Maybe you could block him. Thanks Mitsos 18:01, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

fyi

FYI the Willa Holland editor has been making disruptive edits since late this morning and has been reverted several times. Matthew Fenton (talk · contribs · count · email) 19:19, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
You've beaten me to the punch many times tonight, congratulations! Will 19:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
By the way, I have a request for you. Can you history merge T.I.M.E. and The Inner Mind's Eye? Will 19:44, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

what is the trouble mate? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ankurjain (talkcontribs) 11 November 2006.

thanks - sorry, if i was being offensive! Ankur Jain 19:58, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I used to do this when I was an admin myself, and it's easy when you get the hang of it :) Will 19:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, that's not even funny :( Will 20:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for the extra feathers on my wings!

Thank you so much, Luna Santin, for your support in my RfA, which passed on November 11, 2006, with a final tally of 82/0/2. I am humbled by the kind support of so many fellow Wikipedians, and I vow to continue to work and improve with the help of these new tools. Should you have any request, do not hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Húsönd 20:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

82.18.125.110

I just came across User talk:82.18.125.110 where you allege that this anonymous editor made legal threats. If his comment directly above yours is the only instance in which he/she allegedly made legal threats then you are failing to assume good faith and you really need to leave them alone. I would ask that if this is the case then in the future you will take a step back and think before you edit. If there was another instance in which the user actually made legal threats then I apologize for wasting your time. KazakhPol 20:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Checking out

Hi Luna,

You seemed to take an interest in goings-on with the conspiracy crowd. So I thought I'd drop you a note before I took a long break to tell you my views. I see a very unfortunate dynamic taking hold on Misplaced Pages, and there will be no way to stop it. There's no point in an RFC or anything else, because I well know what the typical attitude will be.

In my opinion, there is a wolfpack mentality in parts of Misplaced Pages. A group of editors with a similar outlook scour Misplaced Pages for articles they don't care for. Post notice of it on boards and to each other. And then swarm en masse to either AFD or completely re-write to their POV over-whelming by numbers any other editors there. A good example is Operation Gladio where multiple editors have suggested that the only valid sources are CIA press releases, about itself.

Admin Seabhcan has gone on break, apparently out of frustration about that, as am I. There's really no point in trying to hold a discussion when you know what the outcome will be, because of sheer numbers of people whose outlook you already know. Missing from the debate is one of the key elements of NPOV policy: we don't adjudicate what the facts are, we report what people say the facts are. That includes notable people other than the CIA, especially scholars.

There is no doubt that this group of editors has purged some bad articles. However, that would have happened without the 'pack' aspect, so it's no justification. There have, however, been some perfectly good, notable, and well-sourced articles which have been or have very-nearly been deleted because of this. That's judging from the 'votes' of people not in the conspiracy crowd. I actually personally agree with their viewpoint on the underlying facts of Gladio; however, I don't agree with the heavy-handed way they want to make that personal view the 'truth' in the article.

There has always been a certain element of people taking note of what others work on. That keeps wikipedia lively and healthy. But, a line has been crossed, where calling in help, either explicitly or implicitly, seems to be the primary dynamic. I've certainly been in situations in the past where I would have liked to call in some friends who I knew would likely share my views of an article. I almost never have in a legitimate disagreement, because it seemed thuggish to me to win by force of numbers. I often agree with the views of this group, but the methods I cannot stand. The phenomenon is broad, and will become broader. I've seen it in Israel/Palestine, abortion, and so on. Essentially anything people get emotionally aroused by.

The irony is, of course, that the anti-conspiracy theory crowd would paint me as just a wiki-conspiracy theorist. I'm not; I'm an economics professor with lots of experience in game theory. And so I recognize a dominant strategy has emerged, which is probably not in Misplaced Pages's interest. At any rate, I've gotten so worked up about this the last month that I've let my actual work lapse. There is nothing here for me but annoyance at the moment, and zero prospect of reform. So I'll take a few months off. Thanks for being the subject of my venting. Derex 23:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Another FWIW

A while back, another editor claimed on your talk page that I was POV-pushing, and cited various conflicts with other accounts. Well, there's been something of a dénouement. If you are curious, then check that editor's list, and see just how many of those alleged instances of my POV-pushing prove instead to be conflicts with

You might also look at the subsequent career of Will314159, since my accuser's edit war against me at the article on John Murtha was an attempt to preserve intact an edit by Will314159. My accuser's belief that I was POV-pushing is an artefact of his own, intense POV. (I do not all believe that he is himself a sockpuppet; I merely assert that he wears large blinders.) —12.72.70.78 00:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

user block

i still dont understand why my user(Zman132) has been blocked, its not my fault my brother is an idiot, why cant just his user be blocked? i completely understand that you are just doing your job but i believe that i have something to contribute to Misplaced Pages. unlike my brother, i view Misplaced Pages as a valuable resource. Zman132 00:45, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Unblock

Thanks alot Luna Santin for unblocking me, I owe you one. Kelvin Williams 01:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

for reverting the vandalism to my talk page. I hereby present this mini-barnstar: *

:) Gzkn 01:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

autoblock problem at 218.186.8.13

Hey. Per unblock-en-l discussion, it looks like an autoblock of Hinomaru6 (talk · contribs) caught the IP address 218.186.8.13, which turns out to be in StarHub Cablevision shared IP space in Singapore, and caught Syed Ahmad Al-Joofri (talk · contribs). Can you do the right thing to the autoblock so it's not catching bystanders?

Thanks! Georgewilliamherbert 02:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Help! My User name changed!

Hi, I've noticed you as an active and tireless admin and was wondering if you could help me...

My user name is (was) NinaEliza. My user name has been CHANGED mysteriously to NinzEliza. What is weirder is that all responses to me who have addressed me by name have had the name changed from NinaEliza to NinzEliza. I'm CERTAIN my name was NinaEliza! I feel like I've gone through the looking glass! Can you help me? Thanks in advance! NinzEliza 02:56, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for catching the vandalism to my userpage. That's the problem with mass-warning users with VandalProof, they get ticked off and start messing with your user and user talk pages. Thanks again, ^demon 06:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Access

Hi Luna

I am a little confused because I haven't used this system before but when I made an attempt to edit or contribute to a subject, I was told I was banned and I can't recall ever having used this before. What's worse, I've been told I'm a vandal. Can you help me understand this. I have looked up the reasons however, can find nothing that relates to me here.

Regards,

Roy

Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University

Hi.

can you unprotect the Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University? There was a vandal from the Galgary University making offensive statements but my guess is he/they are long gone now.

Thanks. 195.82.106.244 07:52, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Appreciated both ways. 195.82.106.244 08:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

List of characters from Family Guy

Hi there ... I think you stepped on my edits and did a revert while I had two edit windows open to do a copy&paste from one section to another ... part of the article was deleted, and it's followed by an edit with no comment, so I suspect that I closed one by mistake.

Anywho, please check my edits that were not apparent vandalism, and let me know if you agree with my changes to the "Real and fictional guest characters" section ... my current "quest" is to get some of the cruft out, and if a character is cited in more than two scenes, then I think that they should be bulleted items. That's why I did the Adolph Hitler reference that way. Note that I tightened up and added links to the Adam and Eve paragraph, which had been under "Supernatural characters".

Somebody added Gregory Peck to "Other characters" ... please see my comment at Talk:List of characters from Family Guy#Real and fictional guest characters page about adding them to the the correct section with a link to the episode ... I don't remember this cutaway (or what episode it was from), but I wikified it and moved it instead of just deleting it, per WP:BITE.

Like I said, "My bad!" ... it was an accident, not vandalism ... second time it's happenened to me this week, BTW ... I must set a limit on how many changes I try to make in one session. —141.156.240.102 (talk|contribs) 09:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, gotcha. No problem, that sort of thing happens. For my part, I just saw a big removal of text without a summary, so reverted and moved on to the next edit to check (sounds exciting, I know). Looks like your edits are good, so keep it up. :) Luna Santin 09:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Kewl! Here's my plan to combat cruft ... if the entries are ventilated, (a) it points out the ones that lack a citation, and (b) it encourages editors to find and add the episode link.
Please see List of characters from Family Guy#Real and fictional guest characters as an example. The Abraham Lincoln section now has a link to at least one of the episodes, and it's a lot more concise. (I also used it to anchor links for "cutaway" and "flashback".) You can see that the last two entries under Adolph Hitler have good references ... In "Episode Xyz", this character ... I'll try to "cleanup" the other four entries when I'm in a fresher state of mind.
My next Major Task is that some characters (like Tom Tucker), do in fact have more than one entry in the list ... he is currently under Tuckers and Channel 5 ... alphabetizing some of the sections has brought this into sharper focus, and is helping to eliminate duplication of anecdotes.
I also need to move a lot of the cruft from Adam West to the Family Guy page for him ... any character with their own page should be pruned down as much as possible, with absolutely no cruft. —141.156.240.102 (talk|contribs) 10:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

A request

Hey, would you mind protecting a page for me? I can't because I'm somewhat involved in the dispute. Thanks! Khoikhoi 09:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)