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Welcome to the Months of African Cinema!
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Shankleville, Texas
At Shankleville, Texas, you wrote:
Shankleville began as a rural community where African-Americans could live and farm their own land away from the violence of white supremacist activities, the strictures of segregation, and the economic enslavement of sharecropping or working for less than subsistence wages as domestic servants and in other menial jobs. “Black landowners in freedmen’s settlements had a greater measure of protection from direct white aggression.... Freedmen’s settlements were black enclaves that kept to themselves and until the end of Jim Crow few whites wished—or dared—to live there.”
You cited this source. Unfortunately, that source does not support your edit, as it is only a summary of the book. Were you in fact attempting to source the book? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:30, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- I sourced this. Have updated to make it more clear ~LumaNatic (talk) 17:50, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
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- Hi! The best way to keep the article right now is to find and add more sources to help show where the family is independently notable outside of the town itself. We can also talk more about this on Thursday. (Tagging Ryan (Wiki Ed as well.) Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:44, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- I wanted to give you a bit more information about the process as well:
- The Articles for Deletion process is, as its name implies, a process for article deletion on Misplaced Pages. Discussions typically last for a week's time (but can go on longer depending on the topic and discussion), during which time people can argue for or against the article's deletion. Good ways to argue for an article's inclusion is to show where the topic meets notability guidelines and would not be seen as redundant to an existing article - in this case the nominating editor is concerned that the article's sourcing is more about the town than its founders and that the topic isn't independently notable of the main article on the town. One editor mentioned that a case could be made for a section in the town's article that briefly covers the founders, so this is an option to look into if more sourcing on the founders can't be located.
- Until the discussion closes, you can absolutely continue to edit and improve the page. If the page is deleted, you can always ask the admin who closes the discussion to transfer the article to your userspace so you can continue to work on it over time. Let me know if you have any questions about this process! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:22, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Many thanks, Shalor (Wiki Ed). Wondering the best way to counter the claim that this doesn't meet Misplaced Pages's guidelines for notability. -LumaNatic (talk) 19:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- We can discuss this more later today! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
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- Chill. With what do you have such a dispute? LumaNatic (talk) 17:22, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- If this is because of the sourced -in the article, and independently- category of Category:American white supremacists and Category:White supremacists to Thomas Jefferson, then explain. I'm all ears.... LumaNatic (talk) 17:37, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Chill. With what do you have such a dispute? LumaNatic (talk) 17:22, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Did you not learn from when you were blocked for edit warring "enslaver" into the biographies of prominent politicians? Natureium (talk) 18:21, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Many thanks - I'm still learning how to do this. LumaNatic (talk) 03:28, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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I see you have been very busy adding to some important areas of the encyclopedia. I also noticed that you have started three different WikiProjects from scratch. That is a lot of work to take on for one editor and WikiProjects are notorious hard to maintain unless it is a collaborative effort (somewhere around 5-10 dedicated volunteers). I encourage you to visit related WikiProjects that might overlap with your interests and invite editors to join your projects. They are more likely to provide lasting contributions to Misplaced Pages if you have like-minded editors assisting in the project. Good luck! Liz 01:43, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Many thanks Liz! LumaNatic (talk) 14:28, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- You were gently told that creating so many wikiprojects is a bad idea, and you responded by creating a seventh? Natureium (talk) 20:42, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Bolding at CfD
It seems like you might have run into some formatting issue with this causing stuff you didn't intend to be bold to end up that way. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:03, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
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ANI Discussion
There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. That discussion can be found here. Ad Orientem (talk) 01:51, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- LumaNatic--please participate in that discussion. Misplaced Pages is still a collaborative environment, and that applies not just to article edits and category creations--but ANI is also a place for you to be heard. Right now you're mostly being represented by a couple of diffs that some find very incendiary and blockworthy, but whatever the value of those diffs is, it is important that you don't let others represent or misrepresent you. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:57, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, I see you had, in a now-closed section. I don't want to tell you what to do, but it seems that wasn't helpful. Sorry, Drmies (talk) 17:01, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Many thanks Drmies. This week is quite hectic for me, plus I've been hesitant to get into a back and forth, he said/she said circular argument that leads nowhere, because I'm still trying to ascertain what the exact issues are. I've been leaving it to facts, but it's starting to seem that many editors are angry at me for suggesting there may be institutional and systemic bias on the platform, and in the way people behave when editing and commenting. Anger at exposing systemic bias doesn't trump actual systemic bias, if this is actually what the issue is. My response, which largely quoted editors who advocated for me using facts, and an attempt at humor to break the ice of incredible anger that was being projected, was termed "Tenditious" which is odd, and I can't see how anything I now say will be viewed favorably, because the issue doesn't seem to be about facts, but people's feelings. I also mentioned the WikiProjects that some seemed to have taken offense to comes directly from on-campus institutions, department and organizations, and their desires - Columbia has had a rash of racist incidents lately and many groups want to help understand how such a thing could be happening on this campus in this time, and so the projects focus on those, plus my thesis. And for some reason that seems to have set a few editors off, with charges of "Righting Great Wrongs" and NotHere, which I in no way have demonstrated - but there seems to be no way to counter this without it becoming an all-out war between those angry and those supportive... I'm just half the year into my residency and just finished the Fellowship program so I don't claim to know all of the rules and have of course made my fair share of mistakes, but the egregiousness of the discussion has taken a turn that seems untenable- so any suggestions you have are welcome. Cheers, LumaNatic (talk) 21:56, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hey. I've been here for a while, and I think I can see both sides--probably their side more, since I'm a poster child (ha, child) for Misplaced Pages's demographic. A few quick things: some of those editors, probably many of them, felt personally attacked by you with some of your comments. If they present, or think they present, an argument, and you say "ah another incident of systemic racism", they're more likely to think you're calling them a racist rather than what I think you are more likely to mean, "you're playing, wittingly or unwittingly, along in a system that is racist/sexist/otherwise exclusionary". You know, when people who fit my demographic say "but I'm not a racist" or "#notallwhitepeople" or whatever. Some of the comments I have no explanation for, nor do I want to try, but some of the respondents on ANI believe you are simply not there to play collaboratively. (And I know there are more than a few editors of color here who know all about this and probably bite their tongue more often than they should...)
I don't know what to tell you. "Play nice" is the best way to not get blocked--but that's a sell-out. "Play collaboratively" is a bit different--I've been trying to argue that editors should discern between what you do and what you say. That lynch mob comment, that wasn't good of course, but that was a long time ago; it's because it was a while ago and because you didn't pursue an edit war on Jefferson that I could argue that there was no good cause for a topic ban. There's a few things that you can say, I think, that will explain your position without selling out (I know, that's 1980s talk), and that might sway things. One more thing: it's still the internet--humor, sarcasm, irony don't always translate easily, and I learned that the hard way. Take care, Drmies (talk) 00:36, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi LumaNatic. I haven't been around here for ages, but still check in now and then and saw the ANI and felt the need to comment. It seems like it may be too late to avoid a topic ban at this point, which is unfortunate, because I feel like you have a lot to offer regarding a perspective that's highly underrepresented on WP. I know this place can seem antagonistic, particularly in the realm of systematic bias, but the biggest cause of the conflicts you've had so far is something I've seen before in editors who want to effect change: you tried to do too much far too fast and ran of WP editing norms. I'm sure it doesn't seem like it but most of the editors at ANI that I'm familiar with and are supporting sanctions actually would agree with your effort to address some of the systematic bias at WP. At the same time they will take offence if you claim they don't, especially while you yourself are going about editing in ways that contradict guidelines and policies.
- WP is mainly incremental and sweeping undiscussed changes to high profile articles will never go well. You can't go around making bunches of new categories and then apply them across dozens of articles. A category has to be supported by the text of the article. The same applies with all these projects you are making. It's difficult to find enough editors to keep one project active. Making many of them is futile and will accomplish nothing. I also wanted to explain why everything went so bad at the Jefferson article as an example of how it could've gone differently. You added a category that wasn't explicitly supported by the article and tried to force a change to the text without consensus or proper sourcing. The lede of an article also must be supported by the article text. What everything really fell apart though was that you started impugning the motives of everyone involved. That will pretty much always lead to sanctions.
- So, how could this have gone differently? Go slow. Start with the article itself. Bring solid sources and write text that is supported by them. You can go ahead and make the changes yourself, though on an article as high profile as that one, you'd be better off bring your changes to the talk page and discussing them there first before you do so. You'll note even some of the editors at ANI supporting sanctions on you agree that there are more than enough good sources discussing the history of White Supremacy in regard to Jefferson to support some new text. It's just you're going about it the wrong way. Thousands of hours have gone into getting that article where it is over the course of many, many years and many editors. Things go slow here. If you would have brought your concerns, sources and changes to the talkpage you would have received a better reception. That doesn't mean everyone would have necessarily agreed, but if they didn't the last thing you want to do is edit war. There's many outlets of dispute resolution on WP and ways to get more opinions as well. If this sounds slow and tedious that's because it can be when dealing with articles on major historical figures. Also, I wouldn't even be dealing with categories if I were you at this point. You'd also be better served making one project. There's limit to the amount of subjects a single project can deal with. If you want to a good example of another project that deals with underrepresented subjects check out the Women in Red project.
- Long story short, if you want a chance of avoiding this topic ban go back and comment at ANI, but comment without accusation or assumption about what you want to accomplish with your editing. I'd even ask for help in getting to known how editing it typically done if I were you. You might find yourself surprised. Sanctions are a last resort for editors that take intractable positions. Showing that open to suggestions and learning policy may go a long way. Capeo (talk) 15:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hey. I've been here for a while, and I think I can see both sides--probably their side more, since I'm a poster child (ha, child) for Misplaced Pages's demographic. A few quick things: some of those editors, probably many of them, felt personally attacked by you with some of your comments. If they present, or think they present, an argument, and you say "ah another incident of systemic racism", they're more likely to think you're calling them a racist rather than what I think you are more likely to mean, "you're playing, wittingly or unwittingly, along in a system that is racist/sexist/otherwise exclusionary". You know, when people who fit my demographic say "but I'm not a racist" or "#notallwhitepeople" or whatever. Some of the comments I have no explanation for, nor do I want to try, but some of the respondents on ANI believe you are simply not there to play collaboratively. (And I know there are more than a few editors of color here who know all about this and probably bite their tongue more often than they should...)
- Many thanks Drmies. This week is quite hectic for me, plus I've been hesitant to get into a back and forth, he said/she said circular argument that leads nowhere, because I'm still trying to ascertain what the exact issues are. I've been leaving it to facts, but it's starting to seem that many editors are angry at me for suggesting there may be institutional and systemic bias on the platform, and in the way people behave when editing and commenting. Anger at exposing systemic bias doesn't trump actual systemic bias, if this is actually what the issue is. My response, which largely quoted editors who advocated for me using facts, and an attempt at humor to break the ice of incredible anger that was being projected, was termed "Tenditious" which is odd, and I can't see how anything I now say will be viewed favorably, because the issue doesn't seem to be about facts, but people's feelings. I also mentioned the WikiProjects that some seemed to have taken offense to comes directly from on-campus institutions, department and organizations, and their desires - Columbia has had a rash of racist incidents lately and many groups want to help understand how such a thing could be happening on this campus in this time, and so the projects focus on those, plus my thesis. And for some reason that seems to have set a few editors off, with charges of "Righting Great Wrongs" and NotHere, which I in no way have demonstrated - but there seems to be no way to counter this without it becoming an all-out war between those angry and those supportive... I'm just half the year into my residency and just finished the Fellowship program so I don't claim to know all of the rules and have of course made my fair share of mistakes, but the egregiousness of the discussion has taken a turn that seems untenable- so any suggestions you have are welcome. Cheers, LumaNatic (talk) 21:56, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Community topic ban
By community consensus, you are topic-banned from anything to do with race, racism, racial history and politics, slavery, or white supremacy, all very broadly construed. If you violate this ban, you will be blocked, likely for a long or indefinite duration judging by the discussion. Sandstein 19:02, 10 January 2019 (UTC)