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Hello Winged Blades of Godric: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, Walk Like an Egyptian (talk) 07:12, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

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Request

I think you understand basic Nepali language, please Google "प्रमोद खरेल" you will find reliable sources (all front line media in Nepal). Please don't oppose the request in reduction of protection level. Thanks --Binod Basnet (talk) 09:58, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi WBG! I have submitted the draft Draft:Pramod Kharel 2. All the citations are reliable. For the information --Binod Basnet (talk) 14:26, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Binod Basnet, that I'm active elsewhere does not mean that I'm bound to provide you an instant reply; unless I'm being held accountable for any of my actions. So, don't be childish and remove posts after a few hours.

I've seen the draft and will pass it after some copy-edits and culling of sources. ∯WBG 19:57, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Sorry for any mistakes. --Binod Basnet (talk) 20:09, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

I created Pramod Kharel directly in mainspace. Please review the article. Thanks --Binod Basnet (talk) 05:33, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Greetings.

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019!

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Hope the new year will bring more friendly debates for us. --DBigXrayᗙ 15:16, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail

@Jo-Jo Eumerus:-Dispatching the entire bunch soon......∯WBG 10:58, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus:-- Done ∯WBG 12:23, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Got most of them, thanks! Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 13:37, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018

Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018 The Editor is Charles Matthews, for ContentMine. Please leave feedback for him, on his User talk page. To subscribe to Facto Post go to Misplaced Pages:Facto Post mailing list. For the ways to unsubscribe, see the footer. Back numbers are here. Learning from Zotero Zotero is free software for reference management by the Center for History and New Media: see Misplaced Pages:Citing sources with Zotero. It is also an active user community, and has broad-based language support. Besides the handiness of Zotero's warehousing of personal citation collections, the Zotero translator underlies the citoid service, at work behind the VisualEditor. Metadata from Wikidata can be imported into Zotero; and in the other direction the zotkat tool from the University of Mannheim allows Zotero bibliographies to be exported to Wikidata, by item creation. With an extra feature to add statements, that route could lead to much development of the focus list (P5008) tagging on Wikidata, by WikiProjects. There is also a large-scale encyclopedic dimension here. The construction of Zotero translators is one facet of Web scraping that has a strong community and open source basis. In that it resembles the less formal mix'n'match import community, and growing networks around other approaches that can integrate datasets into Wikidata, such as the use of OpenRefine. Looking ahead, the thirtieth birthday of the World Wide Web falls in 2019, and yet the ambition to make webpages routinely readable by machines can still seem an ever-retreating mirage. Wikidata should not only be helping Wikimedia integrate its projects, an ongoing process represented by Structured Data on Commons and lexemes. It should also be acting as a catalyst to bring scraping in from the cold, with institutional strengths as well as resourceful code. Links Zotero Comes to Google Docs, Zotero blogpost by Dan Stillman, 19 October 2018. Category:Wikipedians who use Zotero T115158 Write a Zotero translator and document process for creating new Zotero translator and getting it live in production, long Phabricator thread 2015–17. Zotero Translators, documentation from zotero.org. Home page on GitHub for Zotero translator Javascript Example translator, for Wikisource. m:Structured Data on Commons/Newsletter/2018-12-07 Diversitech, the latest ContentMine grant application to the Wikimedia Foundation, is in its community review stage until January 2. If you wish to receive no further issues of Facto Post, please remove your name from our mailing list. Alternatively, to opt out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Wikipedians who opt out of message delivery to your user talk page. Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery

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Czechia moratorium

Hello, I would like to ask you, as on main article Czech Republic is in effect name moratorium until July 2019, doesn't that apply also on country data templates as CZE, CZ which are being changed over the Misplaced Pages templates now, like Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Flag Template? Thank you, --ThecentreCZ (talk) 01:04, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

ThecentreCZ, not a bright-line case and I need to dwell a bit on this locus. ∯WBG 05:48, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

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...I'm not seeing the blatant errors Ammarpad is accused of making. Are you? Modernpaper co. appeared to be handled properly. I don't see anything about a bong using/weed smoking species of animal that eats pizza. My interactions with Ammarpad have been normal reviewing. Are you seeing something I'm not? 04:06, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Atsme, Greetings of the new year:-)

If I am going to indulge in excessive nit-picking about Modernpaper co. (which Ritchie333 has now draftified); the timeline of major events goes as:-

• Ammarpad slaps an A3 tag, 3 minutes after the article-creation.

• Probably, the textbook definition of WP:BITE.

• 5 minutes after the tagging; the author adds some quasi-spam-content and A3 was thus, void. He subsequently draftified the article, which though weird (given the state of the article), was probably per the request of the author on the article-t/p.

• I don't see any fault; over the draftification. AGF, IAR and all that......

• Soon afterwards, more spam was added and Ammarpad responded by slapping a G11, which was.

• Pretty accurate.

• Thereafter, it's primarily a contest between the author on one side and Ammarpad/GMG on the other side to keep the CSD-tags on the page; before it ultimately got deleted.

• Again, nothing wrong, IMO.

To conclude, I don't get K's rationale (about not recognizing it as spam) and if I am compelled to oppose, using Modernpaper.co as the only locus, the first point concerning WP:BITE is miles better.

As to the other case concerning Ammarpad's dealing with weed smoking species of animal that eats pizza; I have no idea until some good samaritan chooses to un-delete it or provide the broader context. ∯WBG 06:24, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Agree with you about bitey...but, look what just happened to me over Naman Ambavi and the confusion over the Draft:Naman Ambavi. Talk about a time sink for 3 or 4 different reviewers! I think the confusion began when the sock/creator tried to bypass the AfC declines and moved the article to mainspace himself - tried to get it out there as far back as 2013 - so I question the newbie concerns that were shown him considering his webmaster skills (plus the fact he never responded to any of our posts on his TP). Admins forgave his sock activity (when he deleted our CSDs) - they considered it a new user simply not logging in even though the evidence strongly supported socking and defiance to get his promo bio published. I think we also need to consider that our volunteers deserve at least equally as much consideration as we're giving newbies. Wish it was easier to find a middle button instead of full-speed ahead, or slower than a slug. 17:22, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Atsme, entirely agree about the last point.

As to this specific case; the creator was lucky enough to have come across quite-considerate sysops. Any other day, he would have been blocked. FWIW, see this edit of mine which would have prevented you-folks from being gamed into launching AFDs. ∯WBG 10:39, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Naturopathy

I put the POV tag on this article because it is the most biased article I have ever seen. It states opinions as a matter of fact. The NPOV approach would be to describe the subject and what it purports to do, then describe the arguments for and against, with refs. The article doesn't do this. It expresses a point of view as if it is an indisputable fact. The bias is right there in the opening sentences of the intro, where it says "pseudoscientific", without providing even the pretence of a ref.

Sardaka (talk) 08:54, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Don't you know a biased article when you see it? Or are you one of the gatekeepers who look after this article and make sure it stays the way it is, which is biased?

Sardaka (talk) 09:12, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Sardaka, I don't give a damn about your perceptions of bias in the article. If you wish to reinstate the tag/edits, you need to gain a consensus. See our dispute resolution ladder.

You might wish to note that Lead typically does not require citations because it's (sort of) a summary of the body; wherein all the stuff are rigorously cited.

Naturopathy is pseudoscience and there's not a whiff of doubt about it. Misplaced Pages is not a place where everyone's opinion is of equal validity and the only opinions that matter are of reliable sources. If the sources of the latter kind paint a subject as pseudoscience/BS; we go with that. As Jimbo sed, the work of lunatic charlatans is not the equivalent of 'true scientific discourse'. And we, as an encyclopedia will reflect the mainstream scientific discourse in our articles.

Coming to your editorial behavior, you are not only flouting a host of policies (including but not limited to WP:FALSEBALANCE, WP:PSCI and WP:FRINGE) but also indulging in intentional gaming of the system (3RR is not an entitlement) in an area governed by 2 discretionary sanctions, as notified on your t/p. When compounded with your IDHT behaviour and an indulgence in casting blatant personal attacks on opposing editors; your editorial future looks quite bleak in this area.

Move away or I will ask for a TBan at AE. ∯WBG 10:14, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

My last word: consensus means little when it's a consensus of the biased, which it is in this case. At WP, you occasionally find an article that is "looked after" by a cabal of editors who stop others from changing it. One user called them "gatekeepers", which is a good way of putting it. The naturopathy article is just one example. Therefore, I won't waste my time working on it anymore, because I can see I'm beating my head against a brick wall. Have a nice day. Sardaka (talk) 11:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Re: Moving CreditMantri to draft status

Hi, We are part of them Brand team at CreditMantri and recently saw that the page was moved to draft status on 25th Nov.(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Draft:CreditMantri) As you may be aware, CreditMantri is a consumer facing company and offer products and services PAN India. Current and prospective customers search about us to get more information and hence the Wiki page is a great verified resource for the same.

Kindly let us know if we can help clarify concerns if any so that the page can be re-instated?

https://en.wikipedia.org/CreditMantri

Thank you and looking forward to your response.CHtohCW (talk) 09:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Replying soon. ∯WBG 12:23, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for your prompt response. We were wondering if you could also suggest a way we could reinstate this article at the earliest. As you may know, Misplaced Pages is a great way for a brand to establish its reputation, and we want to adhere to Misplaced Pages's guidelines to have a presence of our brand on this platform. Do let us know if there is any change required from our end. We'll rectify the draft at the earliest to have it reinstated. Thanks again. CHtohCW (talk) 14:08, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, We were wondering if you had the chance to view our draft page. It would be really helpful for us if you could look into our request, as we want to resolve it as soon as possible. Please let us know the process we could apply to move our page back, and if you could also tell us the specific issues with our article that led its moving to drafts, we would ensure those issues are never repeated again. Thanks. CHtohCW (talk) 12:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Clarify

This was an attempt to remove your post and just walk away from this stinking pile of poo. As it happens, you snuck in an edit right before my attempt to remove, so I ended up undoing your edit, which was not my intention. Sorry about that. Jehochman 18:03, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Jehochman, no qualms and certainly nothing to apologize for:-) Cheers! ∯WBG 18:48, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

@Jehochman:-YGM ∯WBG 19:45, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Relists

Just a couple of observations since I just fixed your relist at Talk:Assassination of Jamal Khashoggi. First, you added the Relisting template BEFORE the nominators signature, which the bot could not recognize. Please be sure to place the Relisting template AFTER the nominator's sig. Second, you relisted the debate after only six days. We should wait until an RM debate is at least seven days old before we relist it. Thank you for your contributions and Happy New Year! Paine Ellsworth, ed.    23:00, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Weird; somehow my scripts were displaying it to have been opened prior to 7 days. Placing the template before the sig was a silly error on my part. Thanks for informing me and have a great year:-) ∯WBG 05:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, sometimes scripts do weird things. Wouldn't hurt to double check them for awhile. And Happy New Year to you and yours! Paine Ellsworth, ed.    09:34, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

India FAR

Hi WBG, can you either change the indentation of your comment at WP:FAR#India, or change the word you in: "Can you list out all the changes that you &..." as I'm quite sure that you here doesn't mean Mathglot, as the indentation might lead others to infer. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 09:37, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done ∯WBG 10:14, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Murray Howe

Hey, I noticed you had added "Do NOT unmark, without notifying me." to Draft:Murray Howe and I think maybe you weren't. So just giving a headsup, it was unmarked as under review and is still pending. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:20, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

KylieTastic, this has an OTRS connection and we were conversing over there. Are you over OTRS? FWIW, it's a good decline with suboptimal reasons. I will copy-paste my comments from OTRS; soon.

@Jovanmilic97:, I expect you to notify the reviewer; if you are unmarking stuff in future. ∯WBG 10:21, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

No I've not been involved on the OTRS side of things, as long as your aware alls good. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 23:06, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Systematic violations of active community sanctions by Smallbones

Hi, and best wishes to the year 2019. I want to inform you about the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard#Systematic violations of active community sanctions by Smallbones. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 11:09, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Seen. No interest. ∯WBG 10:26, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News writers, editors and translators wish you a pleasant 2019 year.

Recent changes

• RelatedSites extension has been undeployed. It was used to create interwiki links on Wikivoyage, now handled by Wikidata.
• MediaWiki logstash logging is moving to a new infrastructure. This is an ongoing deployment.
• codesearch.wmflabs.org has been updated, with new and updated repositories and a new search options for code.
• On several wikis, an account named "Edit filter" has been created on December 17 to perform some technical maintenance on AbuseFilter. This account has sysop rights but it's a system user and no human can use it. The account already existed on wikis where AbuseFilter can perform blocks, which are issued using this account. See T212268 for more information and future plans.

Problems

• In AbuseFilter, the "Throttle" action takes three parameters: count, period and groups. They must now strictly respect the requirements listed on mediawiki.org. A list of broken filters is on Phabricator. If you're familiar with AbuseFilter, please take a look and fix them.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 8. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from January 9. It will be on all wikis from January 10 (calendar).

Meetings

• Search Platform Office Hours is rescheduled to January 9. Check the details for time and date.

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18:29, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

OMICS

Per OMICS Publishing Group, numerous discussions and the fact that OMICS staff are banned for spamming, I typically remove OMICS journal citations, along with predatory open access and other known compromised sources. Guy (Help!) 13:31, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Bengal Famine 1943

• Saw your comments. Putting it in WP:PR for two months. You don't hafta commet if you don't want to. Lingzhi2 ♦ (talk) 02:05, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

You've finally settled on an account? Goodness. ∯WBG 08:05, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

A email I sent.....

 << FR 13:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Seeing; I was inactive for a few days.∯WBG 08:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#RfC:_The_Sun

Another 48 Hrs.? --GRuban (talk) 15:53, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Or 127 hours? FOARP (talk)

Tech News: 2019-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now use Google Translate in the content translation tool.
• You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
• Earlier a quoted HTML attribute had to be followed by a space. Now it doesn't. This means that some pages could look different when you save them even if you didn't edit that part of the text.
• Templates with <templatestyles> could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. <templatestyles> has a new wrapper parameter now. You can use it for selectors like .mw-parser-output <wrapper parameter value> <selector from CSS page>.

Problems

• When you see an edit in the recent changes feed or in the history of a page some of them have tags. Some tags are added automatically. You can also add tags manually. Tags for edits that have been added manually can be edited. This didn't work for a little while. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week

• You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
• Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage.
• The AbuseFilter variable minor_edit has been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on Special:AbuseFilter.
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 15 17:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

BGR-34

Hello, Winged Blades of Godric. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for BGR-34 at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome! Cheers, Baffle gab1978 18:47, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

The wonderful throw away SNU

Can you write a closing statement, as we have no idea what the decision is regarding The Sun RFC at RSN?Slatersteven (talk) 14:24, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Apologies, I got caught in some hectic RL stuff:( Have closed it, yesterday. At any case, what's SNU? ∯WBG 07:56, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Rajendralal Mitra

Hello, Winged Blades of Godric. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for Rajendralal Mitra at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome! Baffle gab1978 03:47, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedians by philosophy

Hi Winged Blades of Godric

I see that you closed Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_December_15#Wikipedians_by_philosophy.

Per WP:BADNAC#2, you should not have done so. The discussion centred on the rejection by some involved editors of a long-established gudieline, and was bound to be controversial. Your closure gave no indication of any attempt to evaluate the discussion against policy or guideline, and such appears to be a headcount.

Please revert your closure, restore the CFD tags, and leave to an experienced admin to weigh the discussion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:02, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

BrownHairedGirl, read Inter&Anthro's !vote and you are seeking a solution in search of a problem.

But, that you seem to have got into a recent obsession with cats; I will reopen this. So, kindly waste some more time. ∯WBG 10:13, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

And given the amount of users, it affects, kindly put that over CENT. ∯WBG 10:18, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) More time to bludgeon the discussion, anyhow. ——SerialNumber54129 10:46, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

What a pity. I made a civil request for your to revert an action which seemed to me not to accord with policy. I did not suggest or imply an bad faith, but you have chosne to respond with both a personal attack and a statement you prefer the !vote one of one particular user.

Since you clarify above that your intention was in fact to align yourself with one editor instead of weighing against Misplaced Pages policy the many arguments made on both sides, you most certainly should have added your own comment(s) to the discussion rather than casting what now appears to have been a supervote. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:59, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

BrownHairedGirl, thanks for your note, follow SN's sage advice. ∯WBG 11:05, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Congrats. You are making a truly excellent case for why you should not have closed the discussion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:24, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

BrownHairedGirl, noting this for posterity. At any case, I've listed the CFD over CENT and it has attracted new voices. Best, ∯WBG 07:18, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

AN

Hey!

Continuing discussion here, since it's not in the scope of the AfD itself. Look at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Association of Court Reporters and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Radio Justice, from an admin no less. I promise I will take your suggestion and act by it, but it will happen by someone else. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 18:06, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

• UPDATE: I did some digging and also found an even more recent case where another admin relisted an AfD discussion THE 2nd time despite the fact no-one was participating at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Watch Out (Dirtyphonics and Bassnectar song), or this Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Girls' Frontline where not only was relisted twice but THREE times without any pariticpants by 2 different admins from all the cases I have mentioned. This one should have been closed as Delete but will now be closed as No Consensus because of that. So in count to these examples I found 4 different admins doing the same thing as I did. Just to prove why I did what I did. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 20:19, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

  Jovanmilic97, thanks, I will reach out:-) ∯WBG 07:12, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-04

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

• Some people did not get last week's issue of Tech News. This was because of a problem with MassMessage. If you did not get last week's issue, you can read it on Meta.

Recent changes

• The content translation tool can now use version 2 as the default version for users who turned on the beta feature. For example it adds the tracking category Pages with unreviewed translations to translations that might have used machine translations without fixing the problems. This is so others can find them. You can find this category in Special:TrackingCategories on Wikipedias.
• https://mediawiki2latex-large.wmflabs.org can now convert collects of up to 800 pages to PDF, EPUB or ODT. Previously this was 200 pages.

Problems

• When a template was edited with the visual editor, it would sometimes put all information on one line. This makes it difficult to read for editors who use the wikitext editor. It also makes it more difficult to see what happened in a diff. This problem affected edits made between 8 and 17 January and is now fixed.
• MassMessage is used to post a message to many pages. It has not been working reliably. Some messages have not been posted to everyone.
• Because of a database problem that had to be fixed immediately you could not edit most wikis for a couple of minutes on 17 January (UTC). This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week

• You will be able to use template styles in the Module namespace.
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 January. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 January. It will be on all wikis from 24 January (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Fixing mistaken overwrite at India deletion discussions

Dear Winged Blades of Godric, I just happened to check the India deletion discussions page and I found that one deletion discussion had overwritten some of the previous ones. The edit in question is . I reverted this , which restored the original content but this also had the side effect of removing your discussion. I am not sure how to format and add back the content you pasted. Could you please take a look at this and help fix it? Otherwise, I think your discussion might be lost. My apologies for the inconvenience.--DreamLinker (talk) 02:22, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

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Facto Post – Issue 20 – 31 January 2019

Facto Post – Issue 20 – 31 January 2019 The Editor is Charles Matthews, for ContentMine. Please leave feedback for him, on his User talk page. To subscribe to Facto Post go to Misplaced Pages:Facto Post mailing list. For the ways to unsubscribe, see the footer. Back numbers are here. Everything flows (and certainly data does) Recently Jimmy Wales has made the point that computer home assistants take much of their data from Misplaced Pages, one way or another. So as well as getting Spotify to play Frosty the Snowman for you, they may be able to answer the question "is the Pope Catholic?" Possibly by asking for disambiguation (Coptic?). Headlines about data breaches are now familiar, but the unannounced circulation of information raises other issues. One of those is Gresham's law stated as "bad data drives out good". Misplaced Pages and now Wikidata have been criticised on related grounds: what if their content, unattributed, is taken to have a higher standing than Wikimedians themselves would grant it? See Wikiquote on a misattribution to Bismarck for the usual quip about "law and sausages", and why one shouldn't watch them in the making. Misplaced Pages has now turned 18, so should act like as adult, as well as being treated like one. The Web itself turns 30 some time between March and November this year, per Tim Berners-Lee. If the Knowledge Graph by Google exemplifies Heraclitean Web technology gaining authority, contra GIGO, Wikimedians still have a role in its critique. But not just with the teenage skill of detecting phoniness. There is more to beating Gresham than exposing the factoid and urban myth, where WP:V does do a great job. Placeholders must be detected, and working with Wikidata is a good way to understand how having one statement as data can blind us to replacing it by a more accurate one. An example that is important to open access is that, firstly, the term itself needs considerable unpacking, because just being able to read material online is a poor relation of "open"; and secondly, trying to get Creative Commons license information into Wikidata shows up issues with classes of license (such as CC-BY) standing for the actual license in major repositories. Detailed investigation shows that "everything flows" exacerbates the issue. But Wikidata can solve it. Links Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Day for 18th birthday celebrations WMUK video page, with "fake news", Jimmy Wales, Wikidata and more (health warning for those with tune allergy) Why Misplaced Pages’s Medical Content Is Superior, Stephen Harrison, 28 January 2019, Slate Olivia Colman reveals struggle with Misplaced Pages over age, Naomi Gordon, 28 January 2019, harpersbazaar.com Making Wikidata visible, Martin Poulter blogpost, 24 January 2019, Bodleian Digital Library Inventory, Magnus Manske blogpost, 24 January 2019, on Wikidata tech support for an image donation by Cleveland Museum of Art If you wish to receive no further issues of Facto Post, please remove your name from our mailing list. Alternatively, to opt out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Wikipedians who opt out of message delivery to your user talk page. Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery

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Template:Did you know nominations/BGR-34

Winged Blades of Godric, it's been over three weeks since you were going to come up with a new hook for your nomination. Please try to get to this soon. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:56, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

BlueMoonset, sorry. I will look within 12 hours. ∯WBG 14:37, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Your comments

Where does it say I read Wikipediocrqcy? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:57, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Kudpung, AFAIS, the report (which credits you as the sole author) states:-

GorillaWarfare, an arbitrator on the English Misplaced Pages, appears to be best informed, and explains in one of her posts on Wikipediocracy: "..............."

The edit-history of the page also has a diff where you had explicitly included a Wikipediocracy thread; which discussed James' case.

About 3 years back, you were mentioning Wikipediocracy as some place, where you had never been to and was not likely to go either. Furthermore, you've also never felt the need to follow blogs or that vile place they call Wikipediocracy. In your bid for being an arbitrator you described it as a site where people hide behind the anonymity afforded by Internet traditions to say terrible things about other people with impunity and even went on to advice others to avoid frequenting sites which exist to disparage Misplaced Pages editors and are known to harbour the bad, very bad hand of some good hand Wikipedians.

6 months back, you were asking others to ignore and deny that (notorious) site's existence (which was used for) sheer downright bloody-mindedness. You further wrote If one has to evoke Misplaced Pages hate sites where trolls, blocked and banned users abound, and users with a Guinness record block log..................

Given, all these there was a definite element of surprise to discover you (of all people) to refer to information, posted over there. Anyways, as they say, there's a first time for every act:-)

At any case, I sincerely hope that no editor gets tempted to visit the site, after reading your Signpost article and somehow gets sucked into the unholy vortex. Cheers! ∯WBG 12:24, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) FYI, WBG, we editors at The Signpost do receive tips via email, so for this reason alone it is not logical to conclude that knowledge of an off-wiki writing means one has personally visited that site. I can personally attest that op-eds (not necessarily by me or K, preserving confidentiality) have contained content received via tips. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

I have never said that K has written the stuff only as a result of the post over the BADSITE or was led from there. What I've stated is that he has surely read over the stuff, however he might have been led and then proceeded to mention it; which is quite surprising given his extreme long-standing antipathy against the site and even visiting it.

Bri, if your above statement means that receiving a tip stating $ABC$ had stated $Blah...Blah....Blah....$ over $XYZ$ will lead to yours' writing the stuff without any vetting (or inspecting the background); that only points out the dubiousness and non-credibility of your journalism (which I hope isn't the case).∯WBG 15:41, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

• If you believe that everything that gets mentioned is first discussed openly on Misplaced Pages, then you are very much mistaken. (Even Bri and I discuss The Signpost over an official but non-public email list). I've been around for a relatively long time on Misplaced Pages, and met literally dozens of editors personally. All journalists have their sources, on top of that I also have a pretty good insight into what goes on behind the scenes. There are people I trust implicitly on Misplaced Pages (even, believe it or not, in the WMF) some of whom are extremely good friends, but not those who deliberately monitor the action and frequent the drama boards in the hope of tripping people up. That is not AGF. Sooner or later they will fall on their own swords. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:02, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rajendralal Mitra

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Rajendralal Mitra you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of L293D -- L293D (talk) 03:01, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Not Adams bridge

The RAMSETU that many people are calling Adams bridge is wrong...Ramsetu was constructed by hindu deity Lord Ram....And this thing is accepted in both countries (India and Srilanka)...so please change it... I respect every religion but Adam has nothing to do with it.... Master7511 (talk) 16:09, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Master7511, we, at en-wiki, are concerned about which of the two synonymous terms are used to a greater extent by the English-language-sources. And, that comes out to be Adam's Bridge.

Also, current archaeological evidence asserts it to be a natural feature.∯WBG 16:58, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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