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Myatt's Death

There have been reports - via the internet - that David Myatt has died in Egypt. One report was via the 'Stormfront' White supremacist forum, citing an obituary by a long-standing Oswald Mosley supporter and long-term member of Mosley's 'Union Movement'; another report was from an ONA (Order of Nine Angles) supporting blog.

At present, and as far as I know, these reports are unconfirmed via reliable (mainstream) sources. If anyone knows of any reliable sources which can confirm these rumors, then the Misplaced Pages article about Myatt should be updated. Coolmoon (talk) 04:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, what's your position on (for the time being) adding a section to the article stating the above? I.e., not stating "he's dead", but stating "it was reported on the Stormfront forum that David Myatt died in 2016 in Egypt"? That doesn't cross the WP:RS line, does it? I'm agnostic on it so whatever you decide is fine; I'm sure with the editors here, eventually someone will track down a better source. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 13:26, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

As I'm not as familiar with Misplaced Pages policies as you are I'll take your word about such a mention of such a source not violating the WP:RS line. That said, I'm personally not happy about using such a political internet forum as a source of info but if you want to add the info to the article then by all means do so for like you wrote someone will track down a better source. I certainly haven't found one, UK and Mid-East newspapers, groups like Hope Not Hate, academics, etcetera included. Coolmoon (talk) 18:15, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

I guess one unique problem with Myatt is that we couldn't really put it past him to fake his own death, could we? No, I'll leave it alone for now. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 20:19, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

It seems that Myatt is alive for he's just published on his blog an article dated 5 November 2016 in which he mentions the rumors about his death: https://davidmyatt.wordpress.com/leaves-are-showering-down/ Coolmoon (talk) 02:38, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

OK, well this is relevant then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBxMPqxJGqI AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 21:47, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Excellent, and thank you! As someone who was a fan of Monty Python in the early 1970s - long before that show became mainstream - I understand the reference and the humour. A few friends and I in those now long gone days (before even commercial video machines) would listen to LP's (and reel-to-reel tape recordings) of broadcasts of Monty Python. Coolmoon (talk) 20:16, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

If you like that, what about the original 6 episodes of Saturday Night Fry? That was the funniest thing to ever come out of England. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 14:35, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

The Opinion Of Sieg

I've reverted a recent edit because Sieg stated in a paper he read at a conference on Satanism in Trondheim, 19-20th November, 2009 that - re Myatt being Long - he considered it "implausible and untenable based on the extent of variance in writing style, personality, and tone" between Myatt and Long's writings.

Now, if since then he's changed his views, what evidence did he present? If he provided no evidence, then isn't it just his personal opinion? 216.227.130.114 (talk) 21:41, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Since I personally don't have access to the academic journal in question, I'm unable to verify whether or not the quote attributed to Sieg is genuine and thus is really from that article, but I have asked someone who may be able to verify it to do so. Until they or someone else does so, the validity of the quote is moot. Pavane7 (talk) 01:14, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

The quote is indeed genuine, and comes from footnote 9 on page 257 of Sieg's "Angular Momentum: From Traditional to Progressive Satanism in the Order of Nine Angles", which was published in the International Journal for the Study of New Religions in 2013. The published article may differ in certain ways from the conference paper that Sieg presented in 2009. Midnightblueowl (talk) 10:22, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

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Authorship of terrorist guide

To comply with NPV guidelines I've added the word "allegedly" since there is no probative evidence that Myatt either wrote the "Practical Guide to Aryan Revolution" or posted it on the internet. The authors and journalists referenced in this and other sections of the Misplaced Pages article have just assumed he did. The police - following Myatt's arrest in 1998 and his later interview by detectives investigating the London nail bombings and despite a three year long investigation - failed to find the necessary evidence that he did write that guide and did publish it, a fact mentioned in the referenced work by forensic scientist John Vacca. Myatt himself has always denied authorship. Pavane7 (talk) 04:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Tanzania

There seems to some confusion about Tanganyika - the British colony - and Tanzania. Modern Tanzania incorporates the former British colony in East Africa but according to my info also incorporates parts of East Africa which were not part of the territory administered by the United Kingdom. Hence why I amended the recent revision to read "now part of modern Tanzania. Pavane7 (talk) 07:10, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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