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The Opinion Of Sieg

I've reverted a recent edit because Sieg stated in a paper he read at a conference on Satanism in Trondheim, 19-20th November, 2009 that - re Myatt being Long - he considered it "implausible and untenable based on the extent of variance in writing style, personality, and tone" between Myatt and Long's writings.

Now, if since then he's changed his views, what evidence did he present? If he provided no evidence, then isn't it just his personal opinion? 216.227.130.114 (talk) 21:41, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Since I personally don't have access to the academic journal in question, I'm unable to verify whether or not the quote attributed to Sieg is genuine and thus is really from that article, but I have asked someone who may be able to verify it to do so. Until they or someone else does so, the validity of the quote is moot. Pavane7 (talk) 01:14, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
The quote is indeed genuine, and comes from footnote 9 on page 257 of Sieg's "Angular Momentum: From Traditional to Progressive Satanism in the Order of Nine Angles", which was published in the International Journal for the Study of New Religions in 2013. The published article may differ in certain ways from the conference paper that Sieg presented in 2009. Midnightblueowl (talk) 10:22, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

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Authorship of terrorist guide

To comply with NPV guidelines I've added the word "allegedly" since there is no probative evidence that Myatt either wrote the "Practical Guide to Aryan Revolution" or posted it on the internet. The authors and journalists referenced in this and other sections of the Misplaced Pages article have just assumed he did. The police - following Myatt's arrest in 1998 and his later interview by detectives investigating the London nail bombings and despite a three year long investigation - failed to find the necessary evidence that he did write that guide and did publish it, a fact mentioned in the referenced work by forensic scientist John Vacca. Myatt himself has always denied authorship. Pavane7 (talk) 04:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Tanzania

There seems to some confusion about Tanganyika - the British colony - and Tanzania. Modern Tanzania incorporates the former British colony in East Africa but according to my info also incorporates parts of East Africa which were not part of the territory administered by the United Kingdom. Hence why I amended the recent revision to read "now part of modern Tanzania. Pavane7 (talk) 07:10, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Alleged Involvement With Occultism

Created new sub-section given how Myatt's alleged association with the Order of Nine Angles has not only dominated recent media coverage of the O9A (qv. the Misplaced Pages O9A article, Legacy and Influence section) but has been a consistent theme in academic texts and other books which mention Myatt. I have also placed the sub-section at the end of the section. Pavane7 (talk) 06:55, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

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