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Sex selective abortion

Hi, I noticed that the ref for sex-selective abortion was removed... here's an alternate: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352552518300938 204.136.186.144 (talk) 22:31, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Source removed

In this edit a source was removed a the second time from a paragraph marked with at least one sourcing issue (a "fail verification" tag) by Alexbrn (talk · contribs), citing "removed soapy". Removing sources from poorly sourced controversial content is inappropriate. JzG (talk · contribs), the original editor, did remove the entire poorly source paragraph along with this edit. Genericusername57 (talk · contribs) then reverted the edit here.

Please discuss here whether the paragraph is appropriate for the article. –Zfish118 04:17, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Zfish118, I checked the source marked "failed verification" and found that the url and doi led to different documents: the doi corresponded to the main article on sex-selective abortion and female infanticide, but the url went to someone else's follow-up comments about hepatitis, with little relevance to abortion. So I found a link to an accessible version of the main article and reinserted the ref; I assumed it had been flagged and removed by people looking at the wrong link.

I didn't reinsert the ref called "remove soapy": that one was about a purported link between naziism and the promotion of abortion; I agree that it was not a good source for "race-selection" as a societal factor. (Other than forced abortion of ethnic minorities, I haven't found any discussion of "race-selective abortion" in high-quality sources.)

I think that some sort of societal-factor paragraph should be included, but that the reasons need to be sourced individually. The sources used in the personal section also list some of the reasons in the societal section, but the sources don't group the reasons into these two categories. I added a ref to support in general the notion that societal factors may influence or limit a woman's choices; I've been looking for individual refs to verify the reasons listed. Cheers, gnu 57 06:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Looking over the societal motivations section again, it seems to me that the second paragraph (about contraception use and minority women) should fall under incidence rather than motivation. Would there be any objection to my moving it? Cheers, gnu 57 00:43, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Short summary

"Medical procedure to end a pregnancy"

Well sometimes it is not a medical procedure but a surgical one.

And often it is not a procedure but simple the taking of medications to end pregnancy.

"Intentionally ending pregnancy" was thus better to separate it from a "spontaneous abortion"

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:05, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Indirect abortion

Should indirect abortion be added as a section? Thoughts?Manabimasu (talk) 02:29, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Benefits of Pregnancy + Abortion?

Are there benefits of becoming pregnant (1 to several times), followed by abortion? Versus never becoming pregnant?

For example, does it affect cancer risk, cardiovascular risk etc?

--ee1518 (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

False definition

"before it can survive outside the uterus" This is objectively false. Abortion can include termination of a fetus AFTER it can survive outside the uterus. What do you think "late term abortion" means? Whoever wrote this article, is misinformed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:87F:B32F:91C6:50BD:16B7:5EE1 (talk) 03:41, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Technically "late term abortion" isn't an accurate term, since after the fetus can survive independently outside of the mother, it is called "late termination of pregnancy", not abortion. Bob Roberts 05:37, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Lack of Abortion Criticism

This article has one sentence in the lede that described the criticisms of abortions, but there is far more to this issue than that. Saying any unborn fetus being aborted is one thing, but saying that a 21+ week old baby getting aborted is murder is more scientifically proven, since the fetus can survive independently in many cases. This article does not address the differences in fetal age and their associations with murder. Aborting an really pregnancy is completely different from a late termination of pregnancy, which many more people equate to being murder. Bob Roberts 05:47, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

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