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To review
Templates for which each transclusion requires individual attention and analysis before the template is deleted.
- Template:Fb_cl_footer2018 September 10 – Fb_cl_footer ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Fb_cl3_qr2018 April 22 – Fb_cl3_qr ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Fb_r2_header2018 April 28 – Fb_r2_header ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Fb_r2_team2018 April 28 – Fb_r2_team ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Fb_r_footer2018 April 28 – Fb_r_footer ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Fb_r2018 April 28 – Fb_r ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Fb_cl2_team2018 April 19 – Fb_cl2_team ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Fb_cl2_header_navbar2018 April 19 – Fb_cl2_header_navbar ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Fb_cl_header2018 April 19 – Fb_cl_header ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Would it be possible for a bot to convert the transclusions of these templates to Module:Sports table? S.A. Julio (talk) 23:50, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- Should be doable, yes. Primefac (talk) 00:22, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- I could probably do something while I am converting all the
{{Fb team}}
templates. But, I will have to see how complicated the code is. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ 00:36, 29 April 2018 (UTC)- @Plastikspork and Primefac: Can your bots using Module:Sports table instead in this case, such as ? Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 04:14, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hhhhhkohhhhh, sure. That particular template only had one use, and that use was in userspace, and the title of the page was "concept", so I didn't bother to fully convert it. But in general, the plan is to convert the various table/cl header/cl footer/cl team templates to use sports table. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ 12:41, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- I am replacing all of these fb templates Frietjes (talk) 15:08, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Hhhhhkohhhhh, sure. That particular template only had one use, and that use was in userspace, and the title of the page was "concept", so I didn't bother to fully convert it. But in general, the plan is to convert the various table/cl header/cl footer/cl team templates to use sports table. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ 12:41, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Plastikspork and Primefac: Can your bots using Module:Sports table instead in this case, such as ? Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 04:14, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- I could probably do something while I am converting all the
- Should be doable, yes. Primefac (talk) 00:22, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Would it be possible for a bot to convert the transclusions of these templates to Module:Sports table? S.A. Julio (talk) 23:50, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- Template:PH_16_cities2019 February 11 – PH_16_cities ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- @Izno: as the original nominator of this template, could I get you to tackle it? I'm not too familiar with the topic... --Zackmann (/What I been doing) 23:29, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zackmann08: It looks like Nigej actually read the
screedcontent; perhaps he can get together a sentence or two to subst into the articles of interest. --Izno (talk) 03:00, 21 March 2019 (UTC)- @Izno:, @Zackmann08: The issue relates to a controversial decision to grant city status to 15 municipalities in the Philippines, which was eventually accepted - so they are cities now. Currently most of the 15 articles have this long section in their articles. League of Cities of the Philippines vs. COMELEC has all the details anyone could possibly want, Cities of the Philippines#"League of 16" and legal battles has less detail, Cities of the Philippines#Motivations for cityhood (last paragraph) is meant to be a summary, but misses out the final important decision. The last paragraph of Cities of the Philippines#Motivations for cityhood could be used (after being updated) to replace the excessively long and detailed stuff that is currently in most of the 15 city articles. Happy to give it a go if everyones happy. Nigej (talk) 08:52, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Nigej: Be bold. --Izno (talk) 13:35, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Izno:, @Zackmann08: The issue relates to a controversial decision to grant city status to 15 municipalities in the Philippines, which was eventually accepted - so they are cities now. Currently most of the 15 articles have this long section in their articles. League of Cities of the Philippines vs. COMELEC has all the details anyone could possibly want, Cities of the Philippines#"League of 16" and legal battles has less detail, Cities of the Philippines#Motivations for cityhood (last paragraph) is meant to be a summary, but misses out the final important decision. The last paragraph of Cities of the Philippines#Motivations for cityhood could be used (after being updated) to replace the excessively long and detailed stuff that is currently in most of the 15 city articles. Happy to give it a go if everyones happy. Nigej (talk) 08:52, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zackmann08: It looks like Nigej actually read the
- @Izno: as the original nominator of this template, could I get you to tackle it? I'm not too familiar with the topic... --Zackmann (/What I been doing) 23:29, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Template:Aeiou2019 February 5 – Aeiou ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) merge to {{Austriaforum}}
- Merge into {{Aircraft specs}}:
- For merging into {{Yesno}} - will need heavy sandboxing:
- Template:If_affirmed2019 March 19 – If_affirmed ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:If_declined2019 March 19 – If_declined ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Primefac You indicated that you had some kind of idea how this merger may be done while closing this discussion with the first step being making a If affirmed/declined a yesno wrapper. I've done that in the sandboxes, but as you can see in the testcases it does change the value for a not insignificant amount of values. Are we supposed to go through each and every template that uses if affirmed/declined to see if it breaks anything and if it doesn't substitute it in? Do anyone have a better plan? -- Trialpears (talk) 21:38, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- I don't see your changes to {{Yesno/sandbox}}. If you don't change the source, then the template won't know what the "yes" and "no" values are. --Gonnym (talk) 21:53, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry if I were unclear, I meant Template:If affirmed/sandbox and Template:If declined/sandbox is where I've made a simple wrapper version. This will inevitably lead to some output differences if we don't change YesNo directly but I don't believe we have consensus to do so. Several people in the TfD thought we shouldn't touch YesNo and last time a RfC was required before they added on and off. -- Trialpears (talk) 22:28, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- I don't see your changes to {{Yesno/sandbox}}. If you don't change the source, then the template won't know what the "yes" and "no" values are. --Gonnym (talk) 21:53, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- Primefac You indicated that you had some kind of idea how this merger may be done while closing this discussion with the first step being making a If affirmed/declined a yesno wrapper. I've done that in the sandboxes, but as you can see in the testcases it does change the value for a not insignificant amount of values. Are we supposed to go through each and every template that uses if affirmed/declined to see if it breaks anything and if it doesn't substitute it in? Do anyone have a better plan? -- Trialpears (talk) 21:38, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- Template:Ctime:062019 March 8 – Ctime:06 ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) - see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Templates#Template:Ctime
- Template:Multidel2019 June 9 – Multidel ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- The multidel merger seems like it will have to be at least partly manual. I would support instead of expending significant resources orphaning a functional talk page banner just deprecating it and leaving exsisting transclusions as is. --Trialpears (talk) 21:31, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- The idea of keeping Template:Multidel blue but deprecated was not what was agreed to at the TfD. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:49, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- If it requires manual orphaning then it requires manual orphaning. As I've said multiple times here, being "difficult" or "awkward" is not a reason to ignore the outcome of a TFD. True, it might take a while to manually orphan a template if it's a complicated merger, but saying "it's being orphaned" is different than "we're leaving it alone but it's deprecated". Primefac (talk) 16:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- I've done as much as I can using AWB with 3 different monster regex rules and a few hours of adding edge cases and I'm down to 65 transclusions. I think all of this will have to be done manually as there is only very few following the same pattern now. It wasn't as bad as I thought but still probably not the best use of time either. --Trialpears (talk) 22:49, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- If it requires manual orphaning then it requires manual orphaning. As I've said multiple times here, being "difficult" or "awkward" is not a reason to ignore the outcome of a TFD. True, it might take a while to manually orphan a template if it's a complicated merger, but saying "it's being orphaned" is different than "we're leaving it alone but it's deprecated". Primefac (talk) 16:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- The idea of keeping Template:Multidel blue but deprecated was not what was agreed to at the TfD. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:49, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- The multidel merger seems like it will have to be at least partly manual. I would support instead of expending significant resources orphaning a functional talk page banner just deprecating it and leaving exsisting transclusions as is. --Trialpears (talk) 21:31, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
To merge
Templates to be merged into another template.
Arts
- Template:Infobox_online_music_service2019 February 20 – Infobox_online_music_service ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) merge with {{Infobox_online_service}}
- I've looked at this merger and found that a lot of the parameters are music service specific. While it sounds easy merging these there would have to be large changes and probably even a specific module which kind of defeats the purpose of the merger. List of parameters and my opinions on them can be found in my sandbox, but I would like others opinions on this. Tagging Gonnym since they have expressed interest in other infobox mergers. -- Trialpears (talk) 13:02, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- So lets start with a general note - a lot of times people that create these infobox aren't thinking about standardization and correct usage, but just copy/paste from some place else and what "feels" good at that moment. Mergers is a good time to clean these templates, not bring those mistakes over. So looking at the logo parameter, you have a
|service_logo=
one as well. There is absolutely no reason to add it in the merge. With that in mind, you should really check if the alt parameter names are used, and even if they are used, if they are correct. Once you're done cleaning that list, it will be easier to see what's needed. Another tool you should use ishastemplate:"Infobox online music service" insource:/owner*=*/
to see how parameters are being used (and if they are being used).|protocol=
has 14 uses, 13 are "HTPPS". Seems a bit pointless as far as parameters go.|avalibility=
seems to be misused, with some adding countries, while others dates (and maybe others do something else as I haven't check them all). If you feel you understand these templates enough, create a sandbox version with how you think the merge should go, a version in the /testcases to show that everything works, and post it on the talk page for comments. If no one objects, then just merge it. --Gonnym (talk) 14:02, 21 July 2019 (UTC)- As an additional note - large changes are okay. There are often parameters specific to one template that aren't found in the target template, and they just need to be added in. It's not the end of the world to add a parameter or five to the target template, since it is a "merge"; if the templates were pure duplicates it would be dead-easy to just redirect the old to the new, or create a subst-able wrapper to deal with it. Primefac (talk) 17:20, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- Gonnym I'm a bit confused about the alias problem regarding
|service_logo=
. I see no problem with adding that as an alias, but if the consensus is to remove most aliases then that I'll do that. I was just under the impression that aliases were cheap and saw no reason to remove any of them. I have now made a new version in the sandbox with my reasoning for additions and removals explained at User:Trialpears/sandbox/online music service. Input would be appreciated as I have never performed a larger infobox merger before. --Trialpears (talk) 16:27, 29 July 2019 (UTC)- There are usually no issues with adding an alias, especially if you're not going to convert into a wrapper first. However, it does make the code cleaner to only have one (or two) parameter names, if only to avoid confusion down the line. Generally when I add an alias it's as a short-term solution until I (or my bot) can remove the old params. Primefac (talk) 16:31, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
- Gonnym I'm a bit confused about the alias problem regarding
- As an additional note - large changes are okay. There are often parameters specific to one template that aren't found in the target template, and they just need to be added in. It's not the end of the world to add a parameter or five to the target template, since it is a "merge"; if the templates were pure duplicates it would be dead-easy to just redirect the old to the new, or create a subst-able wrapper to deal with it. Primefac (talk) 17:20, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- So lets start with a general note - a lot of times people that create these infobox aren't thinking about standardization and correct usage, but just copy/paste from some place else and what "feels" good at that moment. Mergers is a good time to clean these templates, not bring those mistakes over. So looking at the logo parameter, you have a
- I've looked at this merger and found that a lot of the parameters are music service specific. While it sounds easy merging these there would have to be large changes and probably even a specific module which kind of defeats the purpose of the merger. List of parameters and my opinions on them can be found in my sandbox, but I would like others opinions on this. Tagging Gonnym since they have expressed interest in other infobox mergers. -- Trialpears (talk) 13:02, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Geography, politics and governance
- Template:Infobox_historic_subdivision2018 April 13 – Infobox_historic_subdivision ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) merge with {{Infobox former subdivision}}
- Template:Substantive_human_rights2019 May 14 – Substantive_human_rights ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) merge with {{Human rights}}
Religion
- None currently
Sports
- None currently
Transport
- Template:TTC station2019 July 23 – TTC station ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:TTC stations2019 July 23 – TTC stations ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
Other
- Template:Rfam_box2019 April 5 – Rfam_box ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Infobox_rfam2019 April 5 – Infobox_rfam ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:BillboardURL2019 April 19 – BillboardURL ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:BillboardURLbyName2019 April 19 – BillboardURLbyName ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Infobox_time_zone_UTC2019 June 29 – Infobox_time_zone_UTC ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Infobox_time_zone2019 June 29 – Infobox_time_zone ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Note that while no one objected in principle to the merging of these two "time zone" templates, it is also true that no one has demonstrated how the merge would actually be accomplished in practice. One user has tried and failed to perform the merge. Personally, I looked at splitting the template into two before the merge nomination was made, and eventually gave up on the idea since it looked like it was going to be too time consuming to actually do. It is not clear at this point who will be willing and able to successfully complete this merge. - dcljr (talk) 23:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- I'll take care of it if no one else gets to it first. I've done a lot of these over the years. Primefac (talk) 13:20, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- Primefac, I think something went wrong here. There are fundamental differences between IANA time zones, UTC offset zones, and what is commonly known as "time zone". Please reconsider your nomination. TerraCyprus (talk) 12:57, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- I'll take care of it if no one else gets to it first. I've done a lot of these over the years. Primefac (talk) 13:20, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note that while no one objected in principle to the merging of these two "time zone" templates, it is also true that no one has demonstrated how the merge would actually be accomplished in practice. One user has tried and failed to perform the merge. Personally, I looked at splitting the template into two before the merge nomination was made, and eventually gave up on the idea since it looked like it was going to be too time consuming to actually do. It is not clear at this point who will be willing and able to successfully complete this merge. - dcljr (talk) 23:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Meta
- Merge with Template:Infobox Chinese
- Merge with Module:TableTools
- Module:Array_length2019 February 20 – Module:Array_length ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Merged module written in sandbox (weeks ago). * Pppery * it has begun... 03:01, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Module:Array_length2019 February 20 – Module:Array_length ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Module:Vandal-m2019 March 7 – Module:Vandal-m ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Merged module written in sandbox (although much of the coded I added to Module:UserLinks should probably be in Module:UserLinks/extra instead. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 15:13, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- I've set up some testcases and it outputs the same thing as the old one except for the autoblock thing which I assume was intentionl since it doesn't work. I think it could be completed now. --Trialpears (talk) 13:37, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, removal of the broken autoblock link was intentional. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:04, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- I've set up some testcases and it outputs the same thing as the old one except for the autoblock thing which I assume was intentionl since it doesn't work. I think it could be completed now. --Trialpears (talk) 13:37, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- Merged module written in sandbox (although much of the coded I added to Module:UserLinks should probably be in Module:UserLinks/extra instead. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 15:13, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Merge with Template:Globalize
- Template:Globalize/Australia2019 April 5 – Globalize/Australia ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/Canada2019 April 5 – Globalize/Canada ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/China2019 April 5 – Globalize/China ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/Common_law2019 April 5 – Globalize/Common_law ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/Commonwealth_realms2019 April 5 – Globalize/Commonwealth_realms ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/Eng2019 April 5 – Globalize/Eng ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/Europe2019 April 5 – Globalize/Europe ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/France2019 April 5 – Globalize/France ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/Germany2019 April 5 – Globalize/Germany ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/Japan2019 April 5 – Globalize/Japan ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/Middle_East2019 April 5 – Globalize/Middle_East ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/New_Zealand2019 April 5 – Globalize/New_Zealand ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/North_America2019 April 5 – Globalize/North_America ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/Northern2019 April 5 – Globalize/Northern ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/South_Africa2019 April 5 – Globalize/South_Africa ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/South_Korea2019 April 5 – Globalize/South_Korea ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/Southern2019 April 5 – Globalize/Southern ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/UK2019 April 5 – Globalize/UK ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/UK_and_Canada2019 April 5 – Globalize/UK_and_Canada ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/US_and_UK2019 April 5 – Globalize/US_and_UK ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/US2019 April 5 – Globalize/US ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Globalize/West2019 April 5 – Globalize/West ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Please either contact me or leave a note at WT:TW when this is close to being done, Twinkle will need to be updated. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:20, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've been looking at performing this merger but believe the discussion was insufficient. Neither the alternate name feature in the subpages used to get proper formatting nor the category issue was discussed. Participants were also not notified about the contentious 2010 discussion or the Closeapple alternative template all of which would be highly relevant to the outcome of the discussion. Would it be proper to start another TfD discussing these concerns? -- Trialpears (Talk) 11:04, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- No. There was unanimous consensus from a dozen editors to perform this merge. If it is not technically possible then we need to re-evaluate the proposal, but simply being difficult is not reason enough. Primefac (talk) 16:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- There also seemed to be consensus not to do this without a major revamp to make sure the categorization system works with most reasonable inputs in the 2010 discussion. As an example only USA would currently add the category while US, United States, the United States, the US or the USA would not. On top of this you would as it stands have to use the 2name parameter add the to make the sentance gramtically correct. I believe that this improved template should still be made if we're merging these even though there was no discussion about it in the most recent TfD, only in the 2010 TfD. -- Trialpears (talk) 18:09, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- It's long been a concern of people discussing TFDs that there is no "model" or "proof of concept" when templates are nominated for merging, but if it's a potentially contentious nomination there may be no point in spending the time and effort to mock up a "finished version" if the proposal is going to be shot down. The concerns you list are valid, and definitely something that will be clear when creating the merged template. The existing uses won't be deleted/replaced/etc until the final product is ready to go, so it's not like we'll be breaking things. Primefac (talk) 12:31, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Trialpears, could you point me to where in the code the USA categorization takes place? I'm not quite following what the issue is without actually seeing the code. --Gonnym (talk) 13:01, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Relevant categorization happens at the line starting with "| all =" (the template is based on ambox which adds monthly cleanup categories using cat and other categories using all). Currently it adds the article to Category:{{{region}}}-centric if that category exsist and otherwise to Category:Pages in non-existent country centric categories. The problem with this is that it will only categories it properly if USA is entered and not any other reasonable value. As you can see by looking at Category:Pages in non-existent country centric categories this is a very common issue with 7/10 random articles I looked at belonging in a region-centric category. -- Trialpears (talk) 13:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- There a few ways to handle this. You could create sub-template that has a list of allowed variations per country and then handle it with a switch, or you could add to the documentation the allowed country parameters. At the end of the day you can't stop people being ignorant. {{Globalize}} says to use a single country/region in
|2=
,|3=
and|4=
, yet whoever added it to 1950s in music decided to write|2=USA and Europe
. So don't over-think this too much. --Gonnym (talk) 14:56, 16 July 2019 (UTC) - I've now made a new template in the sandbox which should do this reasonably well. It's just a large switch block adding aliases for all countries with categories I could find. It also deals with the displayname problem when the categoryname and displayname shouldn't be the same (eg "USA" in the categoryname and "the United States" in the text). If this template is implemented I would be fine with the merger. The next step would be replacing the current uses of the subpages, and notifying the twinkle developers. I will leave a message at WT:Twinkle later today. Regarding the replacement of current subpage templates I've managed to modify the current wrapper templates to a version that substitute the normal template with all the correct parameters. If someone then could use a bot run to substitute them all that would complete the merger. -- Trialpears (talk) 21:00, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- There a few ways to handle this. You could create sub-template that has a list of allowed variations per country and then handle it with a switch, or you could add to the documentation the allowed country parameters. At the end of the day you can't stop people being ignorant. {{Globalize}} says to use a single country/region in
- Relevant categorization happens at the line starting with "| all =" (the template is based on ambox which adds monthly cleanup categories using cat and other categories using all). Currently it adds the article to Category:{{{region}}}-centric if that category exsist and otherwise to Category:Pages in non-existent country centric categories. The problem with this is that it will only categories it properly if USA is entered and not any other reasonable value. As you can see by looking at Category:Pages in non-existent country centric categories this is a very common issue with 7/10 random articles I looked at belonging in a region-centric category. -- Trialpears (talk) 13:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- There also seemed to be consensus not to do this without a major revamp to make sure the categorization system works with most reasonable inputs in the 2010 discussion. As an example only USA would currently add the category while US, United States, the United States, the US or the USA would not. On top of this you would as it stands have to use the 2name parameter add the to make the sentance gramtically correct. I believe that this improved template should still be made if we're merging these even though there was no discussion about it in the most recent TfD, only in the 2010 TfD. -- Trialpears (talk) 18:09, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- No. There was unanimous consensus from a dozen editors to perform this merge. If it is not technically possible then we need to re-evaluate the proposal, but simply being difficult is not reason enough. Primefac (talk) 16:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- I've been looking at performing this merger but believe the discussion was insufficient. Neither the alternate name feature in the subpages used to get proper formatting nor the category issue was discussed. Participants were also not notified about the contentious 2010 discussion or the Closeapple alternative template all of which would be highly relevant to the outcome of the discussion. Would it be proper to start another TfD discussing these concerns? -- Trialpears (Talk) 11:04, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
To convert
Templates for which the consensus is that they ought to be converted to some other format are put here until the conversion is completed.
- Template:Infobox_U.S._state2019 March 2 – Infobox_U.S._state ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Convert to wrapper of {{Infobox settlement}}, per TFD close. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:40, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
To substitute
Templates for which the consensus is that all instances should be substituted (i.e. the template should be merged with the article) are put here until the substitutions are completed. After this is done, the template is deleted from template space.
- Template:Brazil_fc_22019 July 23 – Brazil_fc_2 ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Template:Brazil_fc2019 July 23 – Brazil_fc ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
To orphan
These templates are to be deleted, but may still be in use on some pages. Somebody (it doesn't need to be an administrator, anyone can do it) should fix and/or remove significant usages from pages so that the templates can be deleted. Note that simple references to them from Talk: pages should not be removed. Add on bottom and remove from top of list (oldest is on top).
- None currently
Ready for deletion
Templates for which consensus to delete has been reached, and for which orphaning has been completed, can be listed here for an administrator to delete. Remove from this list when an item has been deleted. See also {{Deleted template}}, an option to delete templates while retaining them for displaying old page revisions.
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