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I added Cowboy Bebop, Rifts, HU and Mechaniods :) Tyciol 08:19, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


Does The Lawnmower Man (1992 film) count as mind transfer in fiction? --68.0.120.35 00:21, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Should add Paul Chadwick's Concrete comic book series, probably... --68.158.72.143 00:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

What about Jor-El in Man of Steel ? Sk00289 (talk) 14:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Does there have to be machines or electronics to transfer a mind from one body to another? How about J. T. McIntosh's Transmigration (1970), where some people are simply born with the rare faculty of mind to mind transference? Dexter Nextnumber (talk) 10:44, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorting out the examples by Years

This whole article needs to have its examples reorganized by era so we can go straight to the literature (or films) of a specific decade. Somebody needs to go through the whole blasted article and organize it better so we know who came up with which ideas first, and which ones are just novel takes on an idea that was dealt with similarly years earlier.

I am trying to identify a novel written in the 1960s where people climb into a machine, and it shuffles their minds together, producing a being with a "merged" mind having a combination of the memories (both good and bad, memories you would be proud to have, as well as those you would be embarrassed or ashamed to have) that came before. Some might argue this kind of a theme is distantly related to "mind transfer" but an argument could be raised it is actually something else. I don't know. All I know, is that I have been looking for this book for years, and haven't been able to find it. The main article as written doesn't help. Dexter Nextnumber (talk) 22:34, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Change title to "Mind uploading in fiction"?

The article's current title seems to be a leftover from when the mind uploading article was titled "mind transfer" (see the discussion of the reasons for the change at Talk:Mind_uploading#Change_title_to_mind_uploading.3F). Mind uploading is a more specific term than mind transfer as it refers specifically to transferring the information in a human mind into some artificial medium like a computer memory, and it seems that nearly all the examples given deal with this concept, with a few exceptions like the entry about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles episodes where characters switched bodies. If we really wanted to include this sort of body-switching in the concept of "mind transfer" that would mean there'd be no reason to have this article be separate from the Body swap appearances in media article, I think it would be better to define the focus of this article more narrowly as dealing with the "mind uploading" concept, which would be more clear if we changed the title. Any arguments against this? Hypnosifl (talk) 01:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

None. I agree.-Zyrath (talk) 03:40, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
OK, I'm going to go ahead with the change. Hypnosifl (talk) 01:46, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Additional sources really needed?

Why the {{Refimprove}} template from 2010? Each reviewed SciFi book and movie is a source in itself. There is no analysis in this article - only a large number of plot summaries. Mange01 (talk) 22:10, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Also fictional content can be sourced. In the lead of the article, there even already are analytical remarks. --Hans Dunkelberg (talk) 11:01, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
What analytical remarks are suspected original research, and should be sourced? Please add {{source needed}} where appropriate instead of the {{Refimprove}} template. Mange01 (talk) 13:48, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Well — I have not added the "Refimprove" template. I usually only challenge information that I doubt, and in this article, I have not yet stumbled on such. --Hans Dunkelberg (talk) 14:26, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Possible expansion

The lead is very long and the only section of the article that contains general statements on the catchword.

A section that generally summarizes the treatment of mind uploading in fiction should be added.

I am therefore going to insert the {{Cleanup-weighted}} template. --Hans Dunkelberg (talk) 11:01, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Why not add that section yourself? :) I don't get in what sense the article is "weighted too heavily toward only one aspect of its subject". Please specify what aspects you are missing. Mange01 (talk) 13:46, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I do, unfortunately, not survey the matter well enough to be able to add such a section. Indeed, I could look up the matter in some book. The only problem with this is that I don`t find myself in an English-speaking country, at the moment, but in Austria; and that in most libraries, here, there can hardly be found any literature on science fiction.
After all, it makes a bad impression if an article consists only of one resp. more than one lists. I also think the template does not really express what I long for, and have just logged in to look if I could create a further one, saying "This article contains a list of examples, but lacks a general overview on its topic. You can help by adding an appropriate introductory section." Let me look for that, maybe we are going to have such a template, soon. --Hans Dunkelberg (talk) 14:24, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


Please be more specific. What questions should the intro section answer? Mange01 (talk) 13:55, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Quantum mind uploading should be fundamentally different

It's indicative that "Quantum Thief" series by Hannu Rajaniemi has not been mentioned. There is no quantum aspects of mind uploading touched on even in main Mind Uploading wiki issue but the last theoretical and experimental findings made by Penrose, Hameroff and Bandyopadhyay show that quantum basis of consciousness could not be ignored anymore.

And one should remember that there is no strict "hard"/"soft" separation in quantum case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.120.76.21 (talk) 16:57, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

References

  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/Mind_uploading

Elysium

Someone should add Elysium (film) and Johnny Mnemonic to Films. pear 14:15, 4 May 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pear285 (talk

Black Mirror

Black Mirror (TV series) season 3 episode 0 White Christmas (Black Mirror) should be also added, strong ethical aspect Tylkofarci (talk) 11:36, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Accelerando

There's no meantion of Accelerando in the article?! Please add it. --Fixuture (talk) 13:42, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Replicas

Someone should add Replicas (film) to Films.-- self-ref (nagasiva yronwode) (talk) 06:05, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

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