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Town and Cities

Any idea on the Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Cities project? It is proposing to delete all the Town and Cities of XXXX state? See Categories_for_deletion#Cities_and_towns_of_countries_and_states

Alren 22:24, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Non-Indians and working on Indian topics.

Is the decision to keep the list of Indians working on India-related topics and others separate a conscious one? What are the pros and cons? What do people think of it? In creating Misplaced Pages:Africa-related regional notice board I chose not to make that distinction. I feel it makes people unwelcome.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 00:30, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

I second IFaqeer. We can remove the distinction. -- Sundar 05:46, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

The reason I set it up that way initially was that the Russian notice board I used to copy the things over had it that way. I might guess that it's there to distinguish people who are more likely to be knowledgable from people, like myself, who are definitely less authoritative but still interested in helping out. I have no objections to removing the distinction. --Improv 05:58, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Agreed. We should have no distinction. There are lot of people who might know more about Indian History and India related affairs more then many of us here. How about "India-related articles notice board" ? --kunjan1029 07:33, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I have merged the sections --Improv 03:56, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Lists of leaders and office-holders

We need to

• Add more South Asian leaders to Category:Lists of state leaders by year
• Add more South Asian leaders to Category:Lists of current office-holders

—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 04:57, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

Incense

Does anyone know the principle areas of India for the manufacture of incense or dhoop sticks? --

From the top of my head, Mysore(vasu agarbathis(now acquired by ITC), govt sandalwood factory,etc have their base here). Bangalore, Delhi & Mumbai have some factories too, but i don't know any famous brand mfg there. pamri 06:06, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Christmas

Hi everybody! Christmas is a featured article candidate. I have added two lines about Christmas in India. If anybody can knows more, please contribute. utcursch 09:22, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)

Andhra Pradesh

Hey all, some random IP just removed a few paragraphs from the article on Anhra Pradesh. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether the removed material should've been in the encyclopedia or not? --Improv 04:29, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Week

Hey folks, how about starting an Indian Collaboration of the Week? Or better still, an Indo-Pak Collaboration of the Week? utcursch 06:26, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

I cant agree more. I am seeing a whole lot of work put in by individual wikipedians on India related content. We must get together and edit collaboratively on one topic per week. I second you utcursch. Let us look for at least 10 wikipedians to support this initiative. We are now 2.

I would like to propose that we start of with expanding the following article... 2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_in_India. It has grown in content since the last few days. It really needs all our support considering the scale of the calamity. Cheers Arunram 04:58, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_in_India is already being contributed to by many people (esp. by you). It's already a great article. I would prefer taking stubs, and converting them to the status of a near-featured article. Neverthless, 2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_in_India would be a good idea for the first Indian Collaboration of the Week. Good Idea. Let's wait for other people to air their views.utcursch 12:25, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

utcursch asked me to give my opinion on this. Personally, I like the fact that anyone can contribute in any way they want to at any time and that I don't have to make any commitments to Misplaced Pages. But I am gladdened when I see people improving India-related articles on Misplaced Pages especially since a lot of them do need lot of work, lots aren't yet created. I'll be happy to do what I can for the India-related article collaboration of the week if and when it starts. But I don't think I'll take a lead in it. Just my 2 cents. --Hemanshu 19:05, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Swamis, Sadhus, Gurus and Yogis

Lately, I have been seen many articles on insignificant religious figures from India. Sri Deep Narayan Mahaprabhuji is on Votes for deletion page(Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Sri Deep Narayan Mahaprabhuji). But some non-Indians are voting keep, because they think that this man is well-known in India. I would like you folks to comment on the notability of these people, as I am planning to move them to Votes for deletion page:

• Dharmsamrat Paramhans Swami Madhavananda
• International Sri Deep Madhavananda Ashram Fellowship
• Mahamandaleshwar Paramhans Swami Maheshwarananda
• Paramyogeshwar Sri Devpuriji
• Siddha Guru Sri Alakh Puriji
• Sri Deep Narayan Mahaprabhuji
• Akhandanand, Swami Akhandanand Saraswati

utcursch 07:18, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

Nope. Never heard of them. Pass it on to VFD. Nichalp 20:01, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)

I would not agree. Unless these are pure vanity articles, I would vote against deleting them. This is an encyclopedia and personally I believe that it is a good place to have information on topics, personalities, and issues that not everyone cares about. And think of a scenario where a Pope or a Shankar Acharya or, say, the Shahi Imam or the head of a religious foundation passes away (not to wish for that, but as a hypothetical), and we start turning to our favorite encyclopedia to find out about possible successors or someone who has been appointed to replace him/her/them. What if we had decided earlier that that person or persons were not "significant" enough for inclusion.

My two cowry's worth.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 00:53, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

I think the people listed above are more of quacks then sadhus --kunjan1029 03:42, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

Even in that case, isn't there a case to document the what, who, where, etc. of them so people can get information? Of course, I am not agreeing with that; I am saying we need to document all such people as objectively as possible. You or I may consider Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh or the Sufi peers religious impostors, but they are definitely significant to know about and we have to bring all the information on them together.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 05:41, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

Facts about India

I think Facts about India article should be deleted. Nothing important there and looks more like a forward email. what do you people think? --kunjan1029 03:45, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

I would move it into the India article under a heading like "Interesting facts" or something.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 05:24, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

No DO NOT add unnecessary information to the India page. The page is fully mature. Leave this page as it is. Nichalp 19:40, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

Article 356

Hi, Shouldn't there be an article on Article 356 of the Indian Constitution? -- Sundar 05:41, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)

Dalit article

The Dalit article has been shifted to Dalit (outcaste). I don't know, but I don't think that's a good title. First I though of shifting it to "Dalit (Scheduled Caste)", but SC does not cover Dalits in Nepal, etc. Any opinions? --Soman 12:02, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Dalit (caste system) or Dalit (caste)? -- Sundar 14:09, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)

Dalit (caste) would be the best. Nichalp 19:46, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, perfect, I was hoping there could be wider discussion about this, but I didn't know where it might take place. I was the one who moved the article to Dalit (outcaste), although to be clear I did not move any article entitled Dalit. The article I moved was Untouchable, because I noticed that a number of articles had links or redirects essentially saying "for Dalit, see untouchable", which I'm sure everybody can agree is highly unfelicitous. Dalit is (and was) a disambiguation page. I came up with the name Dalit (outcaste), but I'd be happy to see it changed if some better name can be arrived at. (I have reservations about Dalit (caste), because Dalit jatis are outside the varna system, which is key to the problem of Dalit exclusion.) Alternatively, we could move the article to Dalit and create a new page Dalit (disambiguation); or else move the page to Dalits, which is currently a redirect. (By-the-by, for people interested in a related topic, I'd love to see additions and improvements to the article on Scheduled Tribes, currently at Tribes of India, which is still in its infancy.) QuartierLatin1968 00:28, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Infinite recursion in Category:India-related stubs

The use of "{{India-stub}}" in the source of Category:India-related stubs causes the category to show up as a subcategory of itself. This can be confusing. - dcljr 06:31, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)