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"today most physicists are realists who do not believe that quantum theory is involved with consciousness"
This statement is too general. Not involved how? Roger Penrose is a "realist", has specifically said he dislikes the idea of consciousness being primary or fundamental, but is well known for promoting the idea that QM is involved in consciousness.
--15:53, 5 October 2019 (UTC)Derwos (talk)
I've amended this statement slightly as it's not what the cited article says - it puts it the other way round: "...do not believe that consciousness has a role in quantum theory", which is important as it subtly (but importantly) changes the meaning. In the article it is talking about consciousness being an active agent in creating reality - which physicists generally no longer think is the case. The other way round it would be saying that quantum theory is not involved with process which give rise to consciousness - this is not the conclusion of the article, and indeed is still an area of active research. Seajay (talk) 08:28, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
To be a bit clearer: The current version is OK, but the justification is not. From the fact that Roger Penrose thinks that "quantum theory is involved with consciousness" one cannot conclude that "most physicists do not believe that" is wrong, because, as I said, Penrose is one single man and "most physicists" are not him. --Hob Gadling (talk) 17:47, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
