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I am currently traveling and will not be back before the new year. During this time I will be online rarely, if at all. Please consider contacting another administrator with your issues or concerns. I apologize for any inconvenience. --Ad Orientem (talk) 18:26, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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Should this be called an unsolved death or not?

Hi, someone has told me that Damendorf Man should not be classified as an unsolved death and that it is an archaeological discovery of a person who died thousands of years ago with no hope of identification or "case resolution." But if Ötzi can be on the List of unsolved deaths then I think this one should be too, and don't agree with what they said would apply for it being called an unsolved death. Also I have spent hours adding to both the List of unsolved murders and List of unsolved deaths lately and think that any entry added is good to have on it. I think if someone dies and who don't know their identity or what their death cause is then it is unsolved, regardless of how long ago it happened. Please let me know your thoughts on this and if should be called an unsolved death or not. Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:03, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi David. I'm affraid I am more of the view that not every person lacking a death certificate should be classified as "unsolved." And I agree that Ötzi probably should not have that category either. That however is just my opinion and my guess is that the categories are not adequately defined. This may be a good subject for a talk page discussion and possibly a WP:RfC. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:52, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Call-out culture

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Call-out culture. Legobot (talk) 04:27, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Reporting 205.126.54.229

You have blocked this IP twice for disruptive editing back in August , this editor has returned and still doing the same thing as before. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 14:00, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Blocked x 1 year. This has gotten old. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:22, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Genre warring

Can you please block this IP ? THanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 02:39, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

NVRMD  Already done - FlightTime (open channel) 03:02, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I've been a bit distracted watching election returns. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:40, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

There's nothing to apologise for, it's called teamwork :) Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 03:42, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Restoring article

This character Shockwave (Transformers) article was deleted even though he was a major character in the transformers universe. Is there any chance that we can have this page restored? Davidgoodheart (talk) 02:08, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi David. You need to discuss this with the deleting admin. That would be Jo-Jo Eumerus. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:15, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Revert a user's changes

User:Umertan was the sockpuppet of a POV-pusher. Can you revert the edit made using the Umertan account? Thanks! Veverve (talk) 19:34, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

I reverted any current version edits on their contrib log. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:23, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Page protection, three times a charm?

Hi again,

Could you please protect my talk page again? it has gotten worse. Since the protection expired on 2 December, the IPs have vandalised my talk page another 4 times (on the 8th, 10th, 13th, and 16th). Wonder when they'll stop. —MelbourneStar☆ 02:02, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

@MelbourneStar: Done. I set the protection to indefinite. However we don't usually like to protect talk pages indefinitely. This was done so the vandals will not know when the protection is expiring. At some point in the next few weeks just drop me a discreet line and we can lift the protection. If this continues again, we may have to consider longer term protection possibly running for months. Hopefully they will get bored and move on. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:21, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

P.S. I have also rangeblocked 188.146.224.0/20 x 1 month. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:28, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for that. It is a pain that it's come to that, but I'll definitely get back to you in a few weeks. Thanks again, —MelbourneStar☆ 04:50, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

User talk:*ANGELAPOLLOSPANDORA*

You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 11:11, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

 Done -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:11, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikpedia redaction

@Ad Orientem: Please check out the comment that I made on the Murder of Serena McKay talk page that was removed. Should her history about who people say who the killers are be redacted or not?

Having a look. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:37, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

There are two other admins already involved and I'm not going to jump into this. If you disagree with their decisions you should open a discussion on the talk page and ping both of them with your concerns. I would encourage you to be ready to cite policy and or guidelines. WP:NOTCENSORED is the only one I can think of that might help. All of which said I don't have access to the suppressed edits so again, am not going to take a position when I am not in possession of all the relevant facts. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:52, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

TrackerMercurial136

Hi AO. I am fast becoming quite concerned by the edits of TrackerMercurial136. I'm not sure if they're a sockpuppet of a blocked user, as I'm not familiar with socks in the area of Michael Jackson articles (although I assume there are a few), but that has been a suspicion of mine because some of their edits are hard to even assume as good faith. For example, their latest thing is, in the vein of the editors Billiekhalidfan and CountyCountry, removing claims of songs being singles. They've tried to rewrite the past a few times, like on Scream (Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson song) here, claiming that the track "Childhood" is not a double A-side when the name of the song is literally on the cover and the article, before being split, was written as a double A-side. (At the least, there has never been consensus to deem the track a B-side.)

Now they've begun removing sources from articles and then PRODing them, like on Automatic (Prince song) here. Granted, Discogs is a WP:USERG source, but that's not all. They removed a perfectly working/valid source (AllMusic) from this article, then PRODed it. They removed two sources that work entirely fine then PRODed it here (they claimed the second reference "doesn't link to the page" but it works entirely fine). Then we get to the most concerning edits of all. On The Collection (Michael Jackson album), an album that charted quite widely around the world in 2009, they removed a source that they claim doesn't mention the album at all (when it absolutely does) here, then they blanked an entire certifications section when the links all work here, and deleted perfectly valid/sourced chart information here...then proceeded to PROD the article as well. I have no idea what this editor is playing at but it's hard to take several blankings of sourced information across multiple articles in good faith. Ss112 01:25, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Ok. It doesn't look like they have edited since you posted your warning. Let's see what develops. Also as an FYI, I will be traveling tomorrow and won't be online most of the day, if at all. I am about to log off so I can pack and get some sleep. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:30, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

@Ss112: P.S. You might want to have a look at this thread over on WP:AN. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:34, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Hm, that might be tangentially connected in ways I'm not sure of, but I'm not seeing any obvious connections based on Flyer's original post there. Anyway, will let you know if more develops. Hopefully it's an isolated incident. Ss112 01:42, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Hey AO, hope you're having a good break and Christmas. If/when you get time, can you please issue a final warning to this user. Again, they are disputing what is/is not a single when they have been reverted previously, I have explained previously and already given them sufficient enough warnings. They again reverted the same information yesterday. I reported this to ANV so as to not bother you about it, but as usual, it's too "complex" to be blocked straight-up at ANV. Thanks. Ss112 16:04, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

96.248.75.84

Right off their block, has resumed their inane questioning; just asked one on my talk page (won't engage with them). Nate • (chatter) 01:57, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

This is getting old. Blocked x 3 months. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:01, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Much appreciated, thanks. Nate • (chatter) 02:04, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Could you have a look?

Hey,could you have a look at the new version of the map of the territories of the Eastern Orthodox Churches? I believe it is now almost good enough to be published. Veverve (talk) 19:09, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

The legend is supposed to have all the autocephalous churches in chronogical order of their granting of autocephaly, please check if I there is no mistake concerning this. Veverve (talk) 19:30, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Veverve. Sorry for the delay. I am currently traveling and will be online irregularly if at all over the next few days. I will try and have a look when I get some time. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:04, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

No problem. Meanwhile, a new version of the draft has been posted. Veverve (talk) 17:03, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

PeopleEater143 back using an IP you've blocked previously

Specifically 67.129.161.163. Hitting old targets, like List of 2019 albums as well. Ss112 12:03, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Cheers

Merry Christmas, Ad Orientem! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Misplaced Pages. And for all the help you've thrown my way over the years. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 23:49, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Cheers

Damon Runyon's short story "Dancing Dan's Christmas" is a fun read if you have the time. Right from the start it extols the virtues of the hot Tom and Jerry This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true. No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well AO. MarnetteD|Talk 19:40, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Damntcsarg

Hey AO. I know you're travelling, but the user Damntcsarg appears to basically be a single-purpose account whose sole purpose is to dispute what are singles and what are not. They do not respond to any reverts or talk page messages they have been left. I've warned and reverted this user sufficiently, and explained in reverts/asked them to stop. They have not, and continued to return to Misplaced Pages every day to restore their contentious changes. Can you please either give them a final warning (as they're disregarding mine) or it may already be time for a block. Thanks. Ss112 04:08, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Cardicharts

Is back using Cardistann. They're not even trying to hide it with the username this time. Hitting all the same old targets. Ss112 06:25, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Indeffed. Edits reverted. Pages created now deleted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:59, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Hello Ad Orientem: From high in the Canadian Arctic I hope you enjoy the holiday season, the Winter or Summer solstice, Quviahugvik, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah or even the Saturnalia, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 11:49, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

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Happy Holidays

Hello Ad Orientem: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, DBigXrayᗙ Happy Holidays! 18:38, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

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Season's Greetings

Hello Ad Orientem: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, Donner60 (talk) 08:09, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas!

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Joyous Season

I wish that you may have a very Happy Holiday! Whether you celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Hogmanay, Festivus or your hemisphere's Solstice, this is a special time of year for almost everyone! May the New Year provide you joy and fulfillment! Thanks for everything you do here. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 10:17, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

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