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Links to full text on digital libraries

I understand you're interested in the matter of links to the full texts to improve verifiability. Google Books is huge and we seem to have some 250k articles linking a GB ID + page number, but there's also Hathi Trust, and even more numerous are the citations of academic papers which mention a DOI. In this field, there are thousands of academic repositories but one of the biggest is CiteSeerX, which we link from thousands of articles. The matter is discussed at Wikipedia_talk:Copyrights#CiteSeerX_copyrights_and_linking. Nemo 22:13, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Nemo, this will take me a while to read through, but I've gotten started. ^^ 🌿 SashiRolls 23:27, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Tulsi Gabbard

Why are you writing in your edit summary 'undue weight' when your edit is not a question of weight but introducing a tendentious, and wrong word, 'teenager'. You obviously want the reader to infer that this is an unformed intellect, one that can't be judged an adult , but the dates in the article cited don't support that really do they? Or am I misreading the article cited. She doesn't seem , in 2002, to be removing herself from her fathers campaign objectives in 2002? When she was not a teenager. Why introduce tendentious misleading text.The Bone Dorchester (talk) 20:33, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

The article says the bill passed that the organization lobbied for when she was 17. It says that she mentioned her experience with the organization's lobbying effort later in 2002 when she was running for public office for the first time at 21. It does not say she continuously worked for the organization between those two times. I used the term "teenager" because you objected to me citing what was in the article ("When she was seventeen"). 🌿 SashiRolls 08:40, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

I have started a sockpuppet investigation here. 🌿 SashiRolls 09:42, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I see that. Keep white washing the tyrants Sashi, thats your role isn't it. I'll keep sniping back whenever I can. With RS. The Bone Dorchester (talk) 22:57, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

For info, I worked with an Alawite Armenian guy, who was furious with al-Jazeera for pushing war in Syria back in 2012. It gave me a little perspective on the complexity of the situation. Cheers, Dan, if I haven't been blocked, and even if you are (as I suppose you might be), I'm fairly sure we'll meet again. ^^ 🌿 SashiRolls 23:08, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Pushing conspiracy theories is a 'perspective'. Of a kind. Troll, really. 78.144.85.37 (talk) 23:15, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Ah, how memory plays tricks after 7 years. He was actually an Armenian Christian, not Alawite, come to think of it. DYK a lot of the Manchester Wikipedians, Dan? 🌿 SashiRolls 23:42, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Memory going the way of the intellect. DYK a lot of conspiracy theorists? The Bone Dorchester (talk) 23:47, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

OK. That's about enough splenetic propaganda for today Bulldog Antz. Quit harassing the worker-ants.🌿 SashiRolls 23:52, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

For giving voice

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	Thank you for your diligent updates on protest movements around the world - work that is cited, translated, and read far beyond our digital borders. – SJ + 22:07, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, SJ. diligenter is a motivating verb in French! ^^ Hope you are well! (I see that some schools have started opening back up in Haïti this week.) 🌿 SashiRolls 10:52, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

@Boud: thanks for all of your good work in this area. You deserve this much more than I do. Maybe SJ will check out your work and add one. ^^ 🌿 SashiRolls 23:51, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. :). Boud (talk) 10:13, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

I have created a topic at Talk:Daphne_Caruana_Galizia#reversions

Hi

i noticed your reversion and other edits, and made a comment about my edits and an explanation so that we can establish some sort of agreement and consensus on how to proceed; having been reverted because "the copyedit inverted cause and effect", is indeed a serious accusation to me.

Why? Because I am a member of GOCE and have copy-edited for many years, and so I will try and explain why I made the edits.

You may, of course, still disagree, but without consensus we are lost :) Chaosdruid (talk) 18:30, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

I have responded: you changed after X to after which X which inverts cause and effect. No big deal, I've reverted back. 🌿 SashiRolls 20:24, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Highly uncontroversial RM needs closure

Talk:2018–19_Iraqi_protests#Requested_move_28_November_2019 has full consensus, is past its 7-day deadline, and I don't see how it could be controversial. Nevertheless, I'm WP:WIKILAWYERING rather than ignoring the rules, since as I on my own constitute a 50% !voting bloc, I could be biased. See Misplaced Pages:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions if you wish to help. :) Boud (talk) 20:12, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

It's done; I went ahead and moved it and slashed out the 2019 part (reduplicated in the main article). I'll add a note to the talk page about that big deletion. 🌿 SashiRolls 23:18, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

It’s that time of year!

	Time To Spread A Little Happy Holiday Cheer!!
	I decorated a special kind of Christmas tree in the spirit of the season. What's especially nice about this digitized version: *it doesn't need water *won't catch fire *and batteries aren't required.
	Have a very Merry Christmas – Happy Hanukkah‼️ and a prosperous New Year!! 🍸🎁 🎉

Happy Holidays

Thank you for continuing to make Misplaced Pages the greatest project in the world. I hope you have an excellent holiday season. Lightburst (talk) 21:41, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Lightburst, May your 2020 be filled with rich visions! :)

Media Coverage

There is a 1RR in effect on the page. Editors physically cannot perform multiple edit reverts. Per the talk page at the time, there is no established consensus and issues have not been addressed. You should revert your edits. The style changes can remain, but the controversial issues should remain until an agreement is made.--WillC 21:39, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

If you make three edits in succession with no intervening edits, that counts as one revert, for info. 🌿 SashiRolls 21:46, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

I've always counted one single edit as in the 1RR. Any other removal being more. With the contentious topic, I'd rather not give editors an excuse to try to bring me before administrative boards. That is why I came to your talk page first, in order to allow the current discussions on the talk page and the RS noticeboard to continue to play out. The information being removed has an established consensus per WP:EDITCONSENSUS as of right now. I'm just asking nicely and respectfully to allow the process to play out and let the chips fall where they may.--WillC 21:58, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion

This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you!. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 18:39, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Funny, Snoog, I'd just been thinking about lifting my "long-standing" request that you not post to my talk-page. Speaking of the WaPo & bias, the WaPo made you look really bad on the CounterPunch page. You dutifully copied the most damaging text about Counterpunch that you could into Misplaced Pages, back on 26 Dec 2017, which I found by searching for "stoking discontent". You added it, as often, the day after it was published. Bad luck. It turns out you read your WaPo source wrong (which your WaPo source actually facilitated by not being precise in its claims). As it turns out Alice Donovan didn't write about any of the things you said she did at CounterPunch. You "edited" the article as recently as last month, one wonders why you never went back to fix your disinformation. Do you have anything to say about falsely suggesting that Counterpunch was "stoking discontent" regarding Hilary Clinton by publishing one (1) article during the election by someone the FBI apparently alleges was a Russian agent that had nothing to do with Clinton, the election, Wikileaks or Assange? For info: I had no idea whatsoever who was behind this edit until using WikiBlame... 🌿 SashiRolls 21:29, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Wow, the follow-up on that story is something else. ^^ Ghosts in the Propaganda Machine 🌿 SashiRolls 22:34, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Actually, I see you first added it on Christmas Day, 2017, the same day Jeffrey St. Clair's article appeared. (sigh: how do you get your selected sources so quickly and your unselected ones so slowly?) Incidentally, if I start talking about you on my TP after you open a section, you are of course welcome to respond. 🌿 SashiRolls 23:54, 28 December 2019 (UTC)