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Deletion of article on Gaurav Bhatia

The arguments made for deletion in second AfD (that Mr. Bhatia is just a spokesperson, not a notable politician) are repeats of the ones made in 2017 AfD. In 2017, it was concluded that Mr. Bhatia is notable politician on his own, even without being spokesperson of Samajwadi party.

My question is: How does a person once judged notable become non-notable just after 3 years? It appears to me that change in his party, and unpopularity of his new party among wikipedians has something to do with it.

As for arguments on notability of Mr. Bhatia, he has donned multiple hats - was Additional advocate general of Uttar Pradesh while Samajwadi Party (SP) was ruling there, in addition to being party spokesperson. He stood apart even as spokesperson - was the only spokesperson who could logically defend SP's position on many fronts.

Mr. Bhatia has only gained popularity as spokesperson BJP. This article has been deleted in 2006 as well, and it will be started afresh - simply because too many people need to look up his encyclopedic profile, and they wil. Mukt (talk) 02:24, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Mukt, Bhatia needs to do something that makes him of international reputation. Or his party needs to consider him important enough to give him a ticket "AND" he has to win that election, before a wiki article on him can be created. Until either of these things happen, I am afraid his fans would need to goto his website to look him up. regards. DBigXrayᗙ 08:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Mukt, Gaurav Bhatia was deleted for the reasons discussed in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gaurav Bhatia (2nd nomination). Sandstein 09:33, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Deletion of article Camidoh

Hi Sandstein ,

I just noticed you have deleted article Camidoh without me getting a chance to rebut some of the reasons why the article was deleted in the first place. First of all when it was nominated for deletion by Hog Farm I had a discussion on my talk page and he removed the speedy deletion tag from the article. And then Celestina007 brought back the tag and I have put countless messages on her talk page on both the article that was deleted and her talk page but she never responded to any of them.

In the article itself there are coverage of this musician in MyJoyonline.com, Ghanaweb.com, modernghana.com and a few relevant and respect Ghanaian news websites. The music blogs used was only for his music discography and a simple Google search would show you the relevance of the subject in Ghana music both online and offline. I believe it's unfair since my response in the above mention forums to Celestina007 wasn't responded to yet the article got deleted. I believe I was late in seeing this page Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Camidoh and so I couldn't make my input known there before the article was deleted. I want to request a relist so I can demonstrated once more why the subject is notable enough to be on Misplaced Pages.

Looking forward to hearing from you on the way forward.

Owula kpakpo (talk) 15:53, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Owula kpakpo, I will restore the article if you provide the WP:THREE best sources not already present in the deleted article and thereby convince the AfD participants that the subject is notable. Sandstein 17:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

@Owula kpakpo: - I removed the speedy deletion tag because I decided that it didn't meet the criteria for speedy deletion. Articles can still be deleted through other processes, it just requires a discussion. Bringing the article to articles for deletion was a valid step, and AfD discussions with no participation after a certain period of time are sometimes deleted like it was a proposed deletion. Bring your request to WP:REFUND, although it may be a good idea to then move the page to the draftspace to work on it awhile before sending it live. Hog Farm (talk) 16:01, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Kurt Thielen - Where can I find the article or how can I move the article into my user space to improve it ?

Lieber Sandstein, ich bin sehr enttäuscht, dass der von mir gestartete Artikel zu Kurt Thielen von dir gelöscht wurde, obwohl ich sowohl in der Artikel-Diskussion als auch durch weitere Verbesserungen des Artikels alle Argumente des Antragsstellers widerlegt habe (nämlich dass Thielen sehr wohl Relevanz außerhalb seiner Firma seit 2004 besitzt und dass es sich bei der erwähnten Firma Rough Trade sehr wohl um die in den 70er Jahren gegründete britische Firma handelt). Nun bin ich dabei, weitere Quellen auszuwerten, und finde den Artikel nicht mehr, um weiter an ihm zu arbeiten. Er isr selbst aus meiner eigenen Contributionsliste gelöscht. Daher bitte ich dich, mir die letzte Fassung in meinen User Account zu legen, damit ich weiter arbeiten kann. Beste Grüße, --Fact Loving Criminal (talk) 21:39, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi. Kurt Thielen was deleted per the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Kurt Thielen. As indicated there, you can ask for it to be restored to your user space at WP:REFUND. Please note that you will need to cite coverage about him that satisfies WP:GNG if you want to restore the article. The English Misplaced Pages inclusion rules are different from those of the German Misplaced Pages. Sandstein 21:43, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I checked (and will check again) the article against Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) and Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons. I'm still not sure I understand how “the English Misplaced Pages inclusion rules are different from those of the German Misplaced Pages” Best, --Fact Loving Criminal (talk) 09:11, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Fact Loving Criminal, the difference is that de:Misplaced Pages:Relevanzkriterien are a rather detailed list of criteria specific to individual topic areas, while here on the English Misplaced Pages, WP:N is much more focused on coverage in reliable sources, irrespective of the topic area. Sandstein 11:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

List of fictional television shows

Hello, I would like to request for List of fictional television shows to be undeleted and placed at User:Erik/List of fictional television shows. I just saw the AfD discussion, and I found a few sources (, ) that could warrant a list of a similar scope. Erik (talk | contrib) 14:34, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Erik: No problem, but please ask at WP:REFUND, I don't undelete articles. Sandstein 15:35, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I forgot about WP:REFUND. Erik (talk | contrib) 15:51, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Congratulations for emptying Category:Articles with topics of unclear notability from October 2008! GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 14:59, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#RolandR

I've opened an Arbitration Enforcement request relating to a discretionary sanction you've imposed in the past. Chess (talk) Ping when replying 03:18, 18 February 2020 (UTC)