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  • "The Buzzer" (PDF). www.translink.ca. BC Transit. January 13, 1989. Retrieved February 23, 2020.
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  • "The Buzzer" (PDF). www.translink.ca. BC Transit. November 3, 1989. Retrieved February 23, 2020.

Skybridge Photos

There were complaints about the existing Skybridge image. I took several photos of the Skybridge and made them freely available via Flickr at VancouverBCSkybridge. -- 154.20.235.123 23:20, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

And an actual train travelling over the bridge as well! I must admit, the women did put a smile on my face! 192.30.202.28 15:30, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Citations

Needs cleanup, since at the end of every single sentence there is a 'citation needed' warning

Every single one of those statements needs a citation. I'd put a "This article needs citations" message up and do away with all the "citation needed" tags, but someone removed that very same message before, and I'm not in the mood for a revert war. Anonymous 57 07:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Three points:
  1. Most of the things listed here are common knowledge and thus don't need a citation. See WP:CITE.
  2. Adding {{cn}} to every sentence in an article can be considered to be disrupting Misplaced Pages to make a point, which is strongly discouraged.
  3. I admire your goal of making Misplaced Pages better referenced, but the best way to do that is to jump in and find references for topics that you know about, not adding {{cn}} to everything. Even for something like this, you shouldn't have a big problem finding citations online.
Anyway, I've rolled back your edit. JYolkowski // talk 02:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

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Disambiguation

@Joeyconnick: SkyBridge (British Columbia) or SkyBridge (Metro Vancouver)?

I don't know if the dab for this article necessarily needs to match that of TransLink (British Columbia) given that it's about transit infrastructure and not transit service. Given that Template:Bridges of Metro Vancouver is embedded at the bottom of the page, I don't think too many readers would be confused to where "Metro Vancouver" is and "Vancouver" alone has huge name recognition. Previous discussion —Northwest (talk) 04:58, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Was there a request to move the article? I don't think it's necessary. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:07, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Walter Görlitz I think it stems from the notion that "(TransLink)" is not a super-recognizable terms outside transit circles or Lower Mainland locals.
@Northwest: well unsurprisingly I haven't changed my mind re: "Metro Vancouver". I would rather move the template to "Bridges of Greater Vancouver", honestly, and go with "SkyBridge (Greater Vancouver)". But of the two, I think "SkyBridge (British Columbia)" is best... yes, both New West and Surrey are in Metro/Greater Vancouver but again, if we're going by something similar to CANSTATION, province makes the most sense if city doesn't work. —Joeyconnick (talk) 05:43, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
The thought of a reader having an issue differentiate between "Metro Vancouver" and "Greater Vancouver" hadn't crossed my mind earlier. On second thought, yeah, "British Columbia" is the better dab. When following WP:CANSTATION; shouldn't SkyTrain (Vancouver) instead be SkyTrain (British Columbia) or could the dab be dropped altogether if there's a case for it? —Northwest (talk) 17:50, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

References

@Joeyconnick: I had incorrectly assumed it was blatantly obvious to anyone who had bothered to read the references that they were not added to verify the name of a bridge, but as an early reliable source for a contributor to use when undertaking the next major redraft of this page. Naturally, such a person would be shuffling around all existing and later references accordingly, rather than myself, since the subject is not within my ambit of interests.DMBanks1 (talk) 15:53, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

We don't add WP:OVERREFs to an article when {{refideas}} exist. When no edit summary other than " add references", it looked to me as though it was the addition of references as well. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:56, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
@DMBanks1: a (much) better place for references like that is the article's talk page, not cluttering up the first sentence of the article. I think there's even a template for "potentially useful in the future references". —Joeyconnick (talk) 22:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
@Joeyconnick: The single notation character remains a single notation character, so cluttering is not a relevant point. For those readers who actually read these references, there is an opportunity to compensate for the content deficiencies of the page. Your talk page suggestion may well be technically accurate, but like most contributors, I would not be plowing through the talk pages to identify useful references when redrafting a page. As for this article, I did actually read the non-Buzzer references. Even taking the content of all of them combined, they comprise far less useful information than the 4 Buzzer ones, which is one reason for the mediocre standard of the page. However, I am not prone to making hasty deletions of such weak reference material. We can only hope someone will not now be at a disadvantage from augmenting the Buzzer references with some proper research to create an improved page.DMBanks1 (talk) 23:29, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
@DMBanks1:. I have now added the refideas based on your earlier comment . You should have done so and not added the OVERREFS. You're welcome.
Yet now you're changing your story.
There was no hasty deletion of the content. The addition was unnecessary. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:37, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
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