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Speedy Deletion of Mahatma Gandhi Central University protest

I have written an article Mahatma Gandhi Central University protest which was accepted for article for creation on 27 December 2019 but some users copied text from references and links that's why this page was deleted due to copy right issue. I request you to undo the deletion and restoration the page. I'll remove all the copied text from the article and will write in my own words. It took almost 3 months to collect all the information and references to write this article. As Misplaced Pages plays a vital role in letting world know about the important things across the globe. Hope you'd love to help us in inclusion of one of the India's largest public universities protest to the Misplaced Pages so that whole world may know about it. Therefore, you are requested to think once more to undo the deletion and restoration the page. I'll try my level best to improve this article day by day and will be writing in my own word Thanking you.--Rohitmishra111 (talk) 14:31, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Rohitmishra111 I regret to say that I am unable to restore text that is a copyright violation. If you intend to write an article in your own words, you should just go ahead and do so. If you need the text as a baseline, I could email it to you(if you have email enabled in your Preferences, do not post your email here) but you should not repost it here, even to change it later.
Please keep in mind that Misplaced Pages is not for merely telling the world about a subject like a protest(regardless of how good the cause is). Misplaced Pages is for summarizing what independent reliable sources state about subjects only. If you just want to tell the world about your protest, you should use social media or an alternative forum. 331dot (talk) 14:40, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

I have summarized the independent reliable sources to write this article. It was accepted as article for creation on 27 December 2019 but it was deleted due to copy right violation when some user copied text from the sources which were Times of India, The Telegraph The wire and The Quint newspapers of India and pasted them to the article and I didn't get enough time to fix it. Now, I want to remove all the copied text from article so please help me out. Could you please restore the article once ? --Rohitmishra111 (talk) 14:59, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

I've said what I can do above. Please let me know if you want it emailed to you(again do not post your address here). If you find this unsatisfactory, you may go to deletion review. 331dot (talk) 16:51, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

I need the text as a baseline for writing the article So, please send me the text on my email.--Rohitmishra111 (talk) 18:35, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

I am acknowledging your message- I will do so within a few hours. 331dot (talk) 18:46, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
There's a version at the draft. Is that still a copyright violation? Can Rohitmishra111 / Rohitmishra01 refashion that one? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:00, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Can you link to it? 331dot (talk) 20:32, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Smith0124

Hi- Last week you unblocked a user named Smith0124 for edit warring after he pledged to stop. Just so you're aware, yesterday he went on a revision rampage across numerous wikipedia articles, apparently settling family business. He's also found to be a possible sockpuppet of a indefinitely banned user, Peterjack1. Anyways, as he's reverted back to his old habits, I think you should talk with him again and consider a new block if he doesn't start accepting that wikipedia is a community and not Smith0124's personal blog on highways and parkways in the NY metropolitan area.108.21.182.146 (talk) 14:46, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Youth Defense

Hi there,

An editor named Bastun is ensuring that the Youth Defence page is loaded, biased and incomplete. Is this acceptable in Misplaced Pages?

For example, he is referencing the National Library of Ireland to back up a claim that Youth Defence have 'neo nazi' links - but the claim was removed from the NLI's website almost immediately and Bastun had to rely on the wayback machine to find it. This is not fair or neutral reporting of events, and breaches Wiki standards.

One member of Youth Defence - the PRO - attended an event in Germany, that does not mean the whole organisation has 'neo-nazi' links

(Gaelach2019 (talk) 11:18, 14 January 2020 (UTC))

Gaelach2019 I don't wish to be involved in the dispute; I only wanted to direct you to the proper forum. 331dot (talk) 12:39, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

IP 46.208.152.103 in defiance of his/her block

This is getting pretty upsetting: At the Jackson Pollock talk page here: and edit warring again at the Jackson Pollock article here: and he was warned here: User talk:46.208.152.103 Please help...Modernist (talk) 01:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

IP 205.118.22.40

@331dot: Do you know how, as an admin, to report someone to the admins' noticeboard? This IP continues to vandalize Dutch Revolt, and has several warnings...The Evil Sith Kitten 21:59, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

I have blocked the user. You may report vandalism to WP:AIV. 331dot (talk) 22:00, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! It would be easier if no one vandalized Misplaced Pages, but alas, they do...The Evil Sith Kitten 22:03, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

I want a little advice

How did you get that header on the top of your talk page? Could you show me how? Is it some sort of template or something? (I use the source editor..)The Evil Sith Kitten 22:56, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

You are welcome to copy it from this page to use it on yours. 331dot (talk) 02:13, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

idk50597 (formally RDJ SHelter)

Hi 331dot; just a heads-up to let you know that, pursuant to a rename and an agreement to avoid writing about their organisation, I have unblocked this user. Any issues, drop me a line. Cheers, Yunshui  23:13, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

I need your help. ASAP.

I have created a page called Perumaan. The film stars Arjun Das. User:Brutalgraph] keeps undoing my edits on both the Arjun Das and the Perumaan page. Can you kindly help me? --DragoMynaa

You need to first attempt to discuss the issue with them on the article talk page. If that does not result in a consensus as to how to proceed, you can then move on to dispute resolution channels that are available. You should not continue to readd the information- this is considered edit warring. If the other user is edit warring with you, you may report them to WP:ANEW, but your conduct will be examined there as well, so I would suggest you not go that route. 331dot (talk) 10:24, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Due to ongoing vandalism..

A friendly talkpage gnome showed up overnight, and started sweeping up some of the junk. Attached was a nametag reading moonythedwarf. You wonder where it came from.

--MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 16:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

The impact of religion on international negotiations

Dear Editor, Thank you very much for your attention to my article. All resources on this page are available and authentic. In-text references are also provided under the wiki rules. Please review the tag on this page. Anonyeader (talk) 09:10, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

It doesn't read as an encyclopedia article, it reads as an essay laying out research and conclusions- which is original research. Misplaced Pages articles should be summarizing what sources say, not drawing conclusions from them. Even the title seems to be much like an essay title. 331dot (talk) 10:30, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your valuable comments. Yes, the content has to be extracted from the sources, and of course I did so. More to the point, I think your concern is how to write in an encyclopedia style, which you are right about. Another point is how I can change the page title, as the previous one is a bit long as you said. I am going to choose the new title "religion and negotiations". Thank you in advance for your attention.Anonyeader (talk) 11:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Changing a page title is done with a page move. If you are using a computer(not a phone), there should be a "More" tab at the top of the article, if you place the mouse pointer over it, a menu should appear where one option is "move". 331dot (talk) 11:57, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your guidance. It was very helpful. Anonyeader (talk) 13:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks to the editor

Heavenly apple
I appreciate you for the transparency and sense of assistance in your word Anonyeader (talk) 13:22, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

New user moving pages erratically

I noticed you're currently active, DolbyPedia has been moving pages around erratically, including some pretty long-standing articles like Persian Empire. I've left a message on their talk page but the user is unresponsive. As of right now, I'm more inclined to think this is the result of confusion rather than malice, but it could use some admin attention, thank you 2604:2000:8FC0:4:68BA:3B32:8613:8B6D (talk) 20:37, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

undelete

Please undelete this page https://en.wikipedia.org/مستخدم:أبو_السعد_22 and move it to User:أبو السعد 22 أبو السعد 22 (talk) 03:19, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

troll

fyi Praxidicae (talk) 20:47, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I got pinged when they linked my username. I don't actually know how to address it over there- if they came here they would be blocked. 331dot (talk) 20:53, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
They are here, you actually unblocked them! Praxidicae (talk) 21:02, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Oh, okay, I remember them now. I had a discussion with them here that I think annoyed them, which wasn't my intention. 331dot (talk) 21:07, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
I requested a glock, despite some of their good edits they're clearly a sock and a troll. Praxidicae (talk) 21:53, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Requesting a glock sounds a bit drastic! --kingboyk (talk) 23:43, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

hey there

I was wondering if you could help me with something, I am trying to add discord on my wikia page mind helping me? if so leave me a message over there thank you --Eliskuya2 (talk) 21:40, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't know what discord is or how to add it, sorry. You could try Wikia Community Central for assistance. 331dot (talk) 22:20, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
331dot, For note, Discord is a free chat service. moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 22:34, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

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Help with replicating other article template

Thanks 331dot for your help. I have changed my username as you advised. I am a researcher in Behavioural science and wish to create an article titled: 'Psychethics' in the same template as the article titled: Psychology. On the Psychology page it began with (Not to be confused with Phycology, Physiology, or Psychiatry). And on my Psychethics page i simply started it with (Not to be confused with Psychology or Psychiatry) Psychethics is a new behavioural subject and i simply want to put the article information about it on wikipedia.

And also, how do i delete unwanted 'drafts' sandbox' or article from my contribution page? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lardgeman (talkcontribs) 11:49, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Lardgeman If you link to the page that you would like deleted, I should be able to do it. If you haven't already, before you attempt to actually place an article in the encyclopedia, you may wish to read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial. Successfully creating a new article is harder than most people think it is, and it's a good idea to learn as much about it as you can first, in order to increase your chances of success. I would also advise you to use Articles for Creation to submit your draft. 331dot (talk) 11:52, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Lardgeman. Excuse me for butting in, but I took a look at your draft Draft:Psychethics. I need to tell you that this draft is not ready to become an article - because it does not contain any references at all. You need to be able to establish, by references, that this is a real and notable field. Maybe it is an emerging field, not yet fully recognized; that would explain why so much of the article is about what "will be" taught, how treatment "may be" delivered, references to "psychethical hospitals" which do not now exist, and so on. But at Misplaced Pages we can only write about what has been published in reliable sources. If this is just based on your own knowledge and experience, that's what Misplaced Pages calls original research and it is not allowed. You could still go ahead and submit it to WP:AFC if you want, but without references to show this is an established field, it will not be accepted. You might be able to find references here: Be sure to look at Help:Referencing for beginners. Good luck. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:12, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Question about a username

Hi, dot! A question for you, since I see you are active at UAA. Today I happened across a user named TrynaBallWithMyBros. It struck me as a violation of username policy as offensive, since it equates to "trying to ball with my brothers". It didn't seem bad enough for a block, but I was going to tell them to get a new username. But then I saw that this person has been editing since August 2019 and has made 39 constructive edits during that time, starting out with small things, then graduating to the addition of sourced, uncontroversial content in a variety of areas. In other words, in the six months they have been here they seem to have been a productive user, with nobody objecting to their name. Should I just let it go on the grounds that their name doesn't seem to have bothered anyone? Or should they still be advised to change their name? If they are a productive new user I don't want to scare them away. I suppose they might be a sock, but they haven't been acting like one. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:23, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

I guess I am not seeing what is offensive about the name. Is it slang of some kind? If you think, though, that the name is offensive, you could attempt to discuss it with them and see what they say. 331dot (talk) 17:28, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes. In American slang, "ball" used as a verb means "to have sex with". I guess that isn't as obvious to others as it was to me? -- MelanieN (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for enlightening me, I wasn't aware of that. Maybe I hang out with people who don't use that slang. :) If they've been productive, though, discussion might still be worth a shot. 331dot (talk) 18:32, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Maybe I run with the wrong crowd. 0;-D I'll give them a gentle suggestion, while complimenting them on their work to date. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:42, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Hmm. I see that when they got a warning (erroneous in my opinion) from ClueBot on their talk page, they reverted it without comment. That sounds like the action of an established user, not a newbie. Well, I will continue trying to AGF, but that gives me pause. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:45, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

"ballin" is also slang for playing basketball, especially aggressively or with street rules. John from Idegon (talk) 00:41, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Could you help?

Hi Dot. If you're around and could spare a few minutes, could you help me with something? (re: speedy deletion). If you don't accept unsolicited requests for help or can't spare the time please just ignore this message. Thanks. --kingboyk (talk) 14:09, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

What is it that you need? 331dot (talk) 14:11, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
I'd like to know if you think any or all of the following are valid candidates for speedy deletion under G11: Eman Al Yousuf, Samanth Subramanian, Sarah Enany, Kay Heikkinen, Abdulaziz al Farsi.
A little bit of background: I came across these when working through CSD. All originally by the same author. I declined 3, and deliberately left the last two to see what would happen (and they got deleted). --kingboyk (talk) 14:16, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
It's probably going to be an hour or so before I can dive into this. I'm willing, but if you need faster action, feel free to approach someone else. 331dot (talk) 14:28, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
There's no rush, thanks. --kingboyk (talk) 14:31, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
It looks like they have been addressed- and I would agree with what they did. 331dot (talk) 15:36, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Promotion or Advertising of SP Guide Publications

The page SP Guide Publications is not my company or I am not the owner of this company. This is the information company article that publish books and magazines for public. My aim is not to advertise any company. So, I will request you to don't delete SP Guide Publications page. Harsh Barnwal -->Harsh Barnwal 12:04, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Harsh.kumar.srk You say it's not your company, but you wrote "It has been 50 glorious years since we commenced our journey". Even if it isn't your company, the piece was still blatantly promotional and had no independent reliable sources to support its content. Misplaced Pages is not interested in what a business says about itself- Misplaced Pages summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage(not press releases, routine announcements, staff interviews) say about companies that meet Misplaced Pages's special definition of a notable company. If you are new to creating articles(the hardest task on Misplaced Pages), you should review Your First Article and use the new user tutorial before attempting to do so. 331dot (talk) 12:13, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Jaymovez

Hi 331dot (courtesy ping Jimfbleak as well as the blocking admin), I've been watching Jaymovez's unblock requests, and I've got to say, I'm not buying their explanation. The way they're commenting is shouting UPE to me (choice quotes include I began sculpting a page for a startup tech company known as "Movez" who has been making waves in the tech sphere, creating the first article on a company that surely will be receiving tons of PR this year, and The wiki link https://en.wikipedia.org/Movez would be the central Wiki domain that is needed for the company's Wiki article - these all sound like a PR person speaking, not a journalist who just happened to discover an interesting company). Also, I can't imagine why a journalist would find it appropriate to include a company they've reported on in their username, and their concern about getting unblocked quickly is pretty suspicious. I'm not sure what to do other than wait for the next admin to come along and deal with it, but wanted to share my concerns. creffett (talk) 00:58, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

creffett, thanks for ping. Yeah, pretty clear that he won't get paid if he can't get unblocked quickly, not our problem. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:47, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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My Wiki account seems hacked. My Wiki username is BhasSpeak and today I received an email from Wiki that someone removed my email address. I couldn't login to my account as the password has been changed by someone. I want to get back my account. Please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.64.238.239 (talk) 19:47, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

I think I lost your email- but I have blocked the account as a compromised account. Unfortunately, for security reasons, it cannot be unblocked. You may follow the instructions at WP:COMPROMISED to be able to resume editing; in short you will need to create a new account and identify it as a successor to your old account("I am User1234, I previously used BhasSpeak"). 331dot (talk) 21:36, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

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Draft Article

Thank You for the Advice, I will do more adjustments.--Sandrah.Akol (talk) 14:47, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Another person trying to delete sourced content off of Lisa Lambe

user:Junipergreen deleted a good chunk of stuff of off Lisa Lambe. This might be the same person as user:Officiallisalambe. Lambe announced she is releasing a new album called Juniper (https://www.instagram.com/p/B8IO144l3MJ/?igshid=lty0vc8rnd1t) so probably another COI account. Mind you, Lambe is a very busy singer who has gigs almost every night, so I don't think she really cares about her own Wiki page. Must be a die hard fan or something.

I don't think a sockpuppetry investigation is worth it, since Official hasn't really tried to edit for a while. Kay girl 97 (talk) 05:35, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm not certain that the two accounts are the same person; the second account removed a lot more than the first and did not claim to be Lisa. 331dot (talk) 10:14, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
I know that they aren't claiming to be Lisa, it's just that someone is trying to play gatekeeper for her for some reason Kay girl 97 (talk) 15:15, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Might you have declined an unblock request for the wrong block?

Hi, Dot. I blocked Sriramadas.mahalingam twice in February: for edit warring on 9 February (this block has expired) and for disruptive editing and misuse of sources on 11 February, with the rationale here. The 11 February block is not focused on edit warring. It's partial, indefinite, and all about reliable sources. Also, it's not in a yellow box — sorry about that — unlike the first block. I'm concerned that maybe you thought the appeal was for the expired first block, which is more visible in its yellow box? The way your decline is worded might encourage the user to promise not to edit war any more, and expect to be unblocked, which would be unfortunate. I based the second block on what I take to be serious issues of CIR and tendentious editing. Bishonen | talk 21:03, 16 February 2020 (UTC).

I think that is exactly what happened- my apologies. I will make a note on their talk page. 331dot (talk) 22:53, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
😙 Bishonen | talk 05:09, 17 February 2020 (UTC).

Ban vs block

Yeah that was a mistake. I was in a hurry after being unable to find a relevant UW template.©Geni (talk) 04:31, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

WP:ANEW

I'm not convinced that blocking User:Migsmigss was right here - they were reverting vandalism of their ANEW report by a completely disruptive 18-edit account ... you might want to look again? Best, Black Kite (talk) 11:25, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

I've removed the block now that what seemed to be edit warring is over. 331dot (talk) 11:30, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! Black Kite (talk) 11:33, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Thank you. I am aware of the WP:ANI, and all the things you said are noted. I was just shocked I got a block (albeit accidental and then undone by you) since I did not go beyond 2 reverts and did everything properly, even on reporting said account. Anyway, all is well now.

Again, thank you.

Migsmigss (talk) 11:34, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

SchroCat

They seem to have a habbit of making a snide comment then reverting it with a not worth it kind of comment.

1 - added and removed
2 - added and removed
3 - added and removed

It looks like it is their thing. PackMecEng (talk) 00:34, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

It's clear this is more complicated than it seemed to be to me initially. I apologize for creating difficulty and will sleep on this. 331dot (talk) 00:46, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
No worries, it is more complicated than I thought as well. Have a good night! PackMecEng (talk) 00:47, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
  • It would have been polite to ping me to when mentioning me, but never mind. I'll remember, PackMecEng, that when I make a crass comment in future, just to leave it there and create more dramah for people, rather than have second thoughts. I'm not sure that's a more constructive path, but never mind, at least it'll keep the peanut gallery happy. - SchroCat (talk) 07:35, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
    • Sorry about the ping, I figured you would make your way here eventually when you saw the result. I think the thing to take away and remember from this is perhaps just do not post stuff like that at all. PackMecEng (talk) 15:27, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

3AN

Thanks for trying, and sorry to see the grief you've received because of it. Interesting to see that more than one of the voices against me there are people who have grudges against me. I won't add more fuel to the 3AN page by commenting, which won't help anyone. For the record, I was trying to withdraw the comment and de-escalate matters and I thought it was against etiquette (let alone common sense and good manners) to revert a deletion of a comment that I'd made clear I regretted adding if there was no response to it. Sorry again for the grief you've received for it all. - SchroCat (talk) 07:30, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate your words. I think that I would only say that we all need to better consider our edits or actions before making them. 331dot (talk) 08:24, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes, certainly. In an ideal world I wouldn't have posted in the first place, but I'm not perfect, so I did the next best thing I could in the circumstances; it's a shame that AGF is ignored and that the grudge bearers have come out of the woodwork to fuel matters. Plus ça change, I guess. - SchroCat (talk) 08:57, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Global Renamer Query

Hi 331dot,

I see that you requested the global renamer right a few months back, so I was hoping you might be a logical person to ask about it.

The discussion indicated you weren't that active on a meta-side, but your experience in unblocks and UAA was accepted by everyone as sufficient (albeit with the seemingly traditional unhappiness with our UAA system). I'm starting to get involved with both spheres, and it would also be useful on an OTRS remit that I have more experience with. Do you think that the level of experience you had at the time would be necessary for a successful application, or is a need and a lower level of experience in the area likely to be sufficient? Nosebagbear (talk) 16:08, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

While I'm not an expert- I think if you have a specific need of the right and a desire to use it, it would be looked upon favorably. I don't see why we wouldn't want more users with the rename right. 331dot (talk) 19:07, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Hollywood Undead

Hi 331dot, can you please block this user named LOCOJAYGANON please? He is constantly adding misleading informations and spamming the pages. I tried to talk to him, but he still keep going with it. I need help with him. Thanks. --Tobi999tomas (talk) 22:52, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Projection

Everyday, Zeus’s eagle would come, and devour Prometheus’s liver. And every night, it would grow back again. There seems to be a concerted effort to dumb down Misplaced Pages.

user:Debresser used user:Warshy to circumvent your block. They previously used user:Davidbena on December 23 rd. Warshy projected that the Carlo Suares page was started by one editor masquerading as two. user:DGG, a “librarian”, finds it “difficult to be objective in discussing nonsense.” Please check these I.P. addresses.

Alesander (talk) 17:02, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

I do not possess the tools to check IP addresses of accounts, you would need to ask a checkuser. 331dot (talk) 17:25, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Don't bother.-- Jezebel's Ponyo 17:28, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

IPBE

Based on your follow-up question, I think maybe there's still some confusion as to how IPBE works. It doesn't matter if the effected editor is able to access Misplaced Pages from elsewhere, IPBE should be granted on request if the editor is 1) hindered from editing due to a webhost block 2) is a trusted user and 3) a checkuser is in the loop on granting the permission. -- Jezebel's Ponyo 22:24, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Is this only for webhost blocks? (i.e. not VPNs) 331dot (talk) 22:28, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
No, it's for any webhost/proxy/VPN blocks exemption. The policy was intentionally loosened due to the more recent privacy concerns of individuals and corporations. It used to be that editing via webhosts and proxies was nearly always abused, but now it's becoming much more commonplace and the policy for granting IPBE was updated to reflect the changing online environment. WP:IPECPROXY sums up the only requirements for granting the right. In this case, Rpresser meets the requirements as he has a need (blocked at work - confirmed by checkuser) and is a trusted user (1k+ edits since 2004). I can flip the switch if you'd be more comfortable with that. You can also request input from additional checkusers on the WP:IBPE talk page if you feel uncomfortable with the loosened requirements. -- Jezebel's Ponyo 22:44, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
I don't mind as long as I know what the requirements are. I appreciate you enlightening me. 331dot (talk) 23:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
I have another question since I have you :) ; if someone states they are from China/somewhere with restricted access to Misplaced Pages, it is enough to just have a checkuser confirm that?(since it's hard for them to become a trusted user) 331dot (talk) 23:16, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
As a checkuser it took me a while to acclimate to the changes. I was so used to giving the majority of requests a hard pass for so long! It still feels strange, but being able to grant the perm for specific periods of time as opposed to "all or nothing" is definitely an improvement.-- Jezebel's Ponyo 23:19, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)331dot, I usually will look at what wiki's that the editor contributes to. I'll look at what edits they've made to zhwiki (as an example, if they say that they are from china), and if they were reverted. If there haven't been many edits, or they appear to be low-quality edits, I will probably issue IPBE for a fairly short time. Say 1-3 months, with the expectation that we would re-evaluate IPBE at that time. I typically do not grant IPBE for longer than 1 year. SQL 23:29, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
↑Exactly what SQL said ↑. I always check the global account info of any individual requesting IPBE.-- Jezebel's Ponyo 23:34, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard#Review of User:SnøhettaAS block please regarding a role account whose block you recently reviewed. Thank you! My comments are at meta:Talk:Communications/Wikimedia brands/2030 movement brand project#Unblocking Snøhetta on enwiki. EllenCT (talk) 18:12, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Motogadi11

You may wish to revoke TPA.--Cahk (talk) 10:00, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Why I want to edit

In a reply from you in Teahouse, you asked me why I want to vanish if I am still editing. Many uses have asked me. Basically I don't like groups. I don't want to be a part of these hundreds of editors in Misplaced Pages. I want to be alone. When I joined, I did not know about all these editors would there. Now my only aim is to vanish. Please help. Omniscien1 (talk) 11:47, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Omniscien1 As I said, if you have followed the instructions at WP:VANISH, you should receive a reply soon. It will take time as we are all volunteers here, doing what we can when we can. So if you want to vanish, you should stop editing and allow the process to work. In most cases, if you no longer wish to edit, simply abandoning your account is sufficient. You may also change your mind as you mature as a person and later decide to contribute. If you continue to edit and ask questions about editing(as you did at the Teahouse) after you say you want to vanish, the vanishing may not be granted(it is a discretionary process and may be refused).
It is true that Misplaced Pages is a collaborative project where working with others is vital. This project would have difficulty functioning if we all did our own thing and did not communicate with each other- just as real life would be difficult without communication with other people. Is there a certain incident that prompted this decision? I only see other editors just trying to help you. 331dot (talk) 11:54, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Great confusion

Now after your suggestion in the Teahouse, I am confused whether to vanish or not. By the way, I said I fear the users doesn't refer to their names, but actually I don't like to be unknown people. I feel like they will hack me or they will blackmail me. This is the main cause for what I am vanishing. You have really helped me a lot. I know I am disturbing you. But please help me. Omniscien1 (talk) 15:10, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Omniscien1 I can't tell you whether you should vanish or not; it is your decision. If you are uncomfortable with editing here at this time, you can just stop using your account. You may find later that as you mature as a person and gain more life experiences, that you might change your mind later. Vanishing is only meant for people who intend never to return to Misplaced Pages.
No one can guarantee that you will never be hacked, but it is extremely unlikely as long as you take the proper security precautions; have a strong password that is not easy for others to guess, logging out when not using Misplaced Pages, especially on a public or shared computer, and not allowing others access to your account. I'm not certain as to why at this point in your life you fear blackmail(and I don't need to know), but if other users harass you or otherwise act inappropriately towards you, there are things that you can do to address that.
I'm really not trying to convince you to stay here if you really don't want to. Just trying to give you as much information as I can. I would encourage you to seek the advice of a parent, relative, or guardian as to deciding how you wish to proceed. As I've said, if you have decided to vanish and never return, and have properly followed the instructions, you will get a reply soon from a volunteer. 331dot (talk) 15:23, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you friend. I am vanishing from Misplaced Pages. Thanks for your support Omniscien1 (talk) 15:31, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2020).

Administrator changes

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Bureaucrat changes

readded DeltaQuad

CheckUser changes

readded DeltaQuad

Oversight changes

readded DeltaQuad

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops must not undo or alter CheckUser or Oversight blocks, rather than should not.
  • A request for comment confirmed that sandboxes of established but inactive editors may not be blanked due solely to inactivity.

Technical news

  • Following a discussion, Twinkle's default CSD behavior will soon change, most likely this week. After the change, Twinkle will default to "tagging mode" if there is no CSD tag present, and default to "deletion mode" if there is a CSD tag present. You will be able to always default to "deletion mode" (the current behavior) using your Twinkle preferences.

Miscellaneous



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"EarlWhitehall"

Thank you for maintaining the block on this user. I outline what he is doing to us here, so you know what you are dealing with and how serious it is.