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Cost of Storing Radioactive Waste Through Staff

If we take some of the models of storing radioactive waste at 10,000, 100,000 or 1 million years.

I was just wondering if there was a security personnel and there wage were say from the year 2000 as a baseline say a salary $10,000 per year.

What would the salary be of that person doing that job in 10,000, 100,000 or 1 million years time be?

I believe it would take more than one person to maintain such a facility to hold radioactive waste.

This is just a simple question on economics.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Supertoaster2 (talk • contribs) 16:47, 16 June 2009

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High Level Waste

The section on High Level Waste confuses Spent Nuclear Fuel and High Level Waste. This needs to be fixed by someone that is an Engineer or Physicist rather than an anti-nuclear activist. Tyrerj (talk) 19:10, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

@Tyrerj: I started adding distinctions in the article but I could definitely use some help if you have good technical references on this subject. Cloud200 (talk) 21:53, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Is this a useful comparison?

It’s not comparing like for like. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Special:MobileDiff/943611894 Kaihsu (talk) 19:40, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I agree. I removed the sentence. (sorry it looks like a revert to your edit) --Ita140188 (talk) 05:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

No problem; much appreciated. Please check recent edits by the same user. Thanks. Kaihsu (talk) 06:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

@Kaihsu: @Ita140188: Sorry but the whole section is biased in this way. The preceding statement is not comparing "like for like" either as it speaks of unreprocessed waste rather than HLW output: "A 1000-megawatt nuclear power plant produces about 27 tonnes of spent nuclear fuel (unreprocessed) every year". Also in terms of actual radioactivity released to the environment the coal ash is much more harmful than any HLW. I suggest that we now discuss this based on reliable sources here and try to rewrite the whole section in a balanced way. Cloud200 (talk) 11:41, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Is 27 tonnes supposed to be a lot or a little? The reason coal ash is so bad, is that people are bad at keeping it contained and safe. how much coal ash does a 1000MWe coal plant produce in a year? (And how radioactive is it?) It is not all that much work to keep 27 tonnes safe compared to the coal ash. Gah4 (talk) 13:14, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

The EPA says that the US produced 160 million tons of coal ash in 2014. That is from about 86 coal plants producing about 107GWe, so to compare to a 1GWe plant divide by 107, for about 1.5 million tons of ash for a 1GWe coal plant per year. In comparison, 27 tonnes sounds small. Gah4 (talk) 13:28, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

27 tons is absolutely tiny amount as compared to other sources of energy, and then 96% is recycled back into fuel. The remaining 4% fission products need to be stored. These photos from Zwilag storage in Switzerland show almost all nuclear waste from all Swiss nuclear power plants of their lifetime. Cloud200 (talk) 21:17, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

I agree with all points, and I am personally a strong supporter of nuclear power. However, this context is needed in the lead when including this fact. For example, at least cite the total activity or toxicity of coal ash compared to nuclear waste. Otherwise citing it does not make sense for an average reader. Because of all the context needed, I think this information would be easier to include further down in the article instead of the lead. --Ita140188 (talk) 04:20, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

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